Another Federal Crime by the (I) bush regime

GrowRebel

Well-Known Member
Again ... for the record ... more proof and facts of war crimes have been committed ...

http://www.uruknet.de/?p=m44861&hd=&size=1&l=e
[URL="http://www.uruknet.de/?p=m44861&hd=&size=1&l=e"]Rumsfeld Personally Approved Brutal Interrogations[/url]
Former Secretary of Defense Donald Rumsfeld personally authorized the use of brutal interrogation techniques against suspected terrorists imprisoned at Guantanamo Bay despite warnings from the FBI that the methods amounted to inhumane treatment, was possibly illegal, and would not produce reliable intelligence, a Department of Justice inspector general testified Tuesday. "The FBI believed that these techniques were not getting actionable information, that they were unsophisticated and unproductive," said Glenn Fine, the DOJ's inspector general, in testimony Tuesday before the Senate Judiciary Committee. "They raised their concerns with the Department of Defense, but the Department of Defense, from what we were told, dismissed those concerns and that no changes were made in the Department of Defense's strategy."


One has to wonder if Rumsfeld and his associates in this and the former Bush administration were the kind of kids who pulled the wings off flies, just for fun. And by the way, this testimony is one more example of members of this and Bush's former administration lying about what it was was actually happening. MR
 

ChillyLizard

Active Member
If a British human rights group says it happened, well hell, it MUST be true.
If this man's genitals were really slashed with a knife, Where are the photos? There are way too many people in Washington with an axe to grind for the photos not to have been "leaked". Why hasn't Reprieve wall papered the world with their own photos of his scarred up package? I know. They care more about his modesty than publicly bitch slapping the U.S. government. Sure.
"Reprieve said Mohamed's account was confirmed by an unidentified journalist it says spoke with a U.S. intelligence agent who say the photographs."
So A says they heard it from B who heard it from C? There's a name for that. It's called "hearsay".
This story sounds and smells like something my dog left at the park.
 

GrowRebel

Well-Known Member
This is one of many account of torture reported not just by this group ... get you head out your ass ... torture has and continues to take place at the hands of the US ...:spew:
 

ChillyLizard

Active Member
Blah, blah, blah. Cry me a fuckin' river! I personally know men and women who have been killed or torn up fighting in Afghanistan(where America's REAL mission is) and Iraq(where W got HIS payback). Screw the moral high ground! I couldn't care less if they cut his balls OFF!
You don't fight fire with flowers and happy thoughts. Get YOUR head out of YOUR ass!
IMHO W's real war crime was and still is sending troops to Afghanistan and then leaving them to suck hind tit while diverting their support and resources to Iraq.
 

GrowRebel

Well-Known Member
Same bullshit different post ... all you people can do is parrot talking points ... it must be pretty satisfying to the neocon to have people like you that are so easily fooled ... yeah I'm sure you don't care if someone else's balls are being cut ... just like you don't care soldiers are dying base on lies and being throw out as shit when they return ... yeah ... I know cowards like you that love to "save freedom and democracy" as long as it isn't you doing the saving ... give it a rest ... I'm totally unimpressed ...
 

ViRedd

New Member
Same bullshit different post ... all you people can do is parrot talking points ... it must be pretty satisfying to the neocon to have people like you that are so easily fooled ... yeah I'm sure you don't care if someone else's balls are being cut ... just like you don't care soldiers are dying base on lies and being throw out as shit when they return ... yeah ... I know cowards like you that love to "save freedom and democracy" as long as it isn't you doing the saving ... give it a rest ... I'm totally unimpressed ...
GrowRebel ...

Please, in your own words if you can ... define the term "neocon" as you intended it to mean in the above post. Thanks ...

Vi
 

ChillyLizard

Active Member
GrowRebel, have you worn your country's uniform? I have. The reason I know people who have been killed and wounded is I served with them. Coward? SUCK MY NON_COMMISIONED DICK!
 

GrowRebel

Well-Known Member
Yes I have worn my country's uniform ... and it didn't make me stupid enough to believe an illegal occupation is to fight for freedom ... yeah coward ... to support war crimes and war criminals make you one ... and I don't suck dicks ...you'll have to find one of your buddies to do that for you ...
 

GrowRebel

Well-Known Member
GrowRebel ...

Please, in your own words if you can ... define the term "neocon" as you intended it to mean in the above post. Thanks ...

Vi
"neocon" the illegitimate bush regime and members of PNAC ... corporate media ... war criminals ... that's my definition ...
Your welcome ...
 

ViRedd

New Member
Yes I have worn my country's uniform ... and it didn't make me stupid enough to believe an illegal occupation is to fight for freedom ... yeah coward ... to support war crimes and war criminals make you one ... and I don't suck dicks ...you'll have to find one of your buddies to do that for you ...
In that case, I don't imagine you have very many lasting relationships with men. :blsmoke:

And, your description of what the term NeoCon is, is exactly what I thought it would mean to you. Nothing more than a hateful fireball to hurl at anyone you don't agree with.

Vi

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ViRedd

New Member
whats a neocon Vi?[/quote]

A NeoCon is just another name for old liberals who have joined the Republican Party and have become quasi-conservatives ... New, or Neo-Conservatives, if you will. Their main gripe with the Democrat Party is the party's extreme move to the hard left and the anti-military stance of the party. Their answers are the same old bromides of the left; more government control, higher taxes, increased regulation of the private sector ... combined with international, imperialistic and socialistic policies enforced through a strong military.

So, you can see by the above definition, when folks like GrowRebel and Med toss out the term NeoCon to describe those of us who are Classicial Liberals in the Jeffersonian sense, the term doesn't fit. Like I said, they, and others like them, use the term as nothing more than a fireball to discredit those who don't agree with their distorted views. They do the very same thing with the terms Racist, Homophobe, Nazi, etc.

Vi
 

medicineman

New Member
Vi, that post clears it all up for me, Thanks. I wonder, do you ever use disparaging terms when describing those views you dislike (hate)?
 

mockingbird131313

Well-Known Member
GrowRebel, have you worn your country's uniform? I have. The reason I know people who have been killed and wounded is I served with them. Coward? SUCK MY NON_COMMISIONED DICK!
Hey ChillyLizard,
I believe g-r (she) was in service and violated the rules about gays-in-service. After she was booted, she decided to hate everybody and every institution that did not conform to her personal standards. Which now means you are next on her list of many. Oh, she also believes Dennis Kucinich is a god walking on Earth. So NEVER call him Dennis the Menace! Oh, oh, NEVER refer to her as a sloth either. She will stuff pins in your effigy doll, for that!
MB
 
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