A New Proposed Federal Marijuana Law...

DNAprotection

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Well, "obvious" "I have no doubt"

You didn't even know the paragraph of the Farm Bill in the the other thread you called Monsanto Protection.

You seriously have been not correct even once.
Dear Doer, of course (par for your course ;)and handicap) your summation is flawed at its very foundation as I have never claimed to have read the farm bill nor have I ever claimed to know where any specific wording resides or not in such...lol..." You seriously have been not correct even once" Does that translate to meaning you think I'm always correct?...because that again would be an incorrect assumption on your part:D
 

BWG707

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One thing the limits are ridiculous, and I definitely don't want cops to be allowed to come into "MY HOUSE" anytime the wanted too! We haven't gotten to a police ruled country yet. This is definitely a step in the wrong direction. I would petition the hell out this if it ever came up.
 

Doer

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Sign a document agreeing to up to 2 police searches a month of your property? Fuck that.

See that is the problem. Once you start limiting plant count, you have to have people investigate your home to enforce it.

I don't let strangers into my home.
Independent Ganja Advisors to video tape, is a boondoggle. Vast sums would be wasted and corruption would swell.

There would be no independence suddenly like every other review board.
 

Doer

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One thing the limits are ridiculous, and I definitely don't want cops to be allowed to come into "MY HOUSE" anytime the wanted too! We haven't gotten to a police ruled country yet. This is definitely a step in the wrong direction. I would petition the hell out this if it ever came up.
CANNABIS IS A HARMLESS SUBSTANCE OF MEDICINAL VALUE WHEN USED IN A CONSCIOUSLY APPLIED PROGRAM OF BRAIN HYGIENE AND REGULAR PROFESSIONAL CARE.

Why in the world, Alabama would you even suggest home invasion? Growing is not registered in my State, only permitted, but there is no permit. Think about it this way. Why control home, indoor growing at all?

CO and WA present s a two edge sword when we get law makers involved.

HANDS OFF MEDICAL GANJA This is the right approach to me.
 

spandy

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You guys figure out the laws, and I'll ignore them like I always have. Its' just easier to not give a shit and do what a free man would do.

Don't forget to pay taxes either, it doesn't fix the roads or schools, but hot damn we got some cool shit for the military to blow people up with.
 

Dislexicmidget2021

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Proposed new FEDERAL marijuana law (in "non-legal" terms; I'm not a lawyer):

Any household headed by a person 21 years of age or older can grow marijuana on their own property, indoors or outdoors, under the following rules:

1. A total of eight marijuana plants can be grown at any given time: up to four plants in the vegetative stage, and up to four plants in the flowering stage.

2. Additionally, a total of one pound of dried (or drying) marijuana can be stored inside the house, as long as it was grown according to (1) above.

3. In order for the "household head" to be lawfully "accepted" for (1) and (2) above, he/she must sign a legally binding document agreeing to random police searches of the property on which the marijuana is being grown. Any violations noted in any search must be witnessed by, corroborated by, and video-taped by a "marijuana growing advocate" (so a rouge cop doesn't frame a law-abiding grower).

4. The number of searches per household will be limited to two per month, and six per year (this doesn't mean there will be this many searches; it just places upper bounds on the number of searches allowed).

5. Any person 18 years of age or older can use marijuana in such a household.

I realize that the legal wording of such a law would probably surpass "War and Peace" in length, but surely you get my drift...

Good proposal?


This is about as good as a lump of horse shit.Nothing personal.
 

2xcharming

Active Member
Brain Hygiene???? A high pressure hose and a tanker full of soap couldn't clean up my mind. What can I say Doer, I'm a dirty girl. So please explain this "new" concept of a clean mind.
 

Doer

Well-Known Member
Brain Hygiene???? A high pressure hose and a tanker full of soap couldn't clean up my mind. What can I say Doer, I'm a dirty girl. So please explain this "new" concept of a clean mind.
Fear is the brain killer, not sex. :) Be free of fear and have a clean brain. :) Clean brain. Yu have a fine dirty mind, I can tell.
 

desert dude

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Unfortunately when any new fed legislation is finally adopted into law there is no doubt in my mind that certain obvious interests will have their way in amending it to be in line with what I stated earlier regardless of anyone's wishes or intent.
Examples for the needy:
1942 'hemp for victory' campaign to grow hemp for the war under strict contract that seeds would be supplied by gov etc...
also there is this more recent example:
http://www.iraqcoalition.org/regulations/20040426_CPAORD_81_Patents_Law.pdf

http://www.alternet.org/story/62273/why_iraqi_farmers_might_prefer_death_to_paul_bremer's_order_81

https://www.commondreams.org/view/2012/06/24

Published on Sunday, June 24, 2012 by Common Dreams Patenting Staple Foods (Bremer’s Order 81) Is Ruinous to Iraq’s Agriculture


by Adnan Al-Daini

In my early teens in Iraq, in the late fifties and early sixties, I used to accompany my father to farms to buy wheat grain for our own consumption, and a few sacks more to sell in the village to make some profit. I remember the discussions between my father and the small farmers regarding the quality of the grain, and whether the dough would stick (hounta khabbaza) to the walls of the clay oven (tennor) in which my mother baked the bread. This particular quality is essential to prevent it falling into the hot embers at the bottom of the oven. The farmers used to assure us of the quality, giving a little history of how the grain had been improved by knowledge sharing between farmers, with the best quality seed being adopted. The system had an inbuilt informal ability to improve the quality of the wheat grain. This method of sharing expertise, and the use of knowledge passed down through the generations were applied to every aspect of farming and fruit orchards to improve the quality and quantity of the produce.
Farmers harvest wheat outside of Sulaimaniyah, Iraq. (Emma Piper-Burket)An article on GRAIN website entitled “Iraq's new patent law: a declaration of war against farmers” gives the origin of this law and its detrimental effect on agriculture in Iraq thus:
“When former Coalition Provisional Authority (CPA) administrator L. Paul Bremer III left Baghdad after the so-called "transfer of sovereignty" in June 2004, he left behind the 100 orders he enacted as chief of the occupation authority in Iraq. Among them was Order 81 on "Patent, Industrial Design, Undisclosed Information, Integrated Circuits and Plant Variety." This order amends Iraq's original patent law of 1970 and unless and until it is revised or repealed by a new Iraqi government, it now has the status and force of a binding law. With important implications for farmers and the future of agriculture in Iraq... The purpose of the law is to facilitate the establishment of a new seed market in Iraq, where transnational corporations can sell their seeds-genetically modified or not, which farmers would have to purchase afresh every single cropping season”. For generations, small farmers in Iraq operated in an essentially unregulated, informal seed supply system. Farm-saved seed and the free innovation with an exchange of planting materials among farming communities has long been the basis of agricultural practice. This is now history. The CPA has made it illegal for Iraqi farmers to re-use seeds harvested from new varieties registered under the law.”
Iraq, lest we forget, is ancient Mesopotamia, the land between the two rivers, the Tigris and Euphrates; this is the land where organized agriculture was invented around 5000 BC. The Sumerians, Assyrians and Babylonians are the ancestors of the people of Iraq and through their work and ingenuity they went on to establish the great cities of Ur and Babylon.
This patenting law, in many instances, involves the pirating of knowledge gained by farmers sharing their knowledge and experience through millennia:
“Such kind of "biopiracy" is fueled by an Intellectual Property Right (IPR) regime that ignores the prior art of the farmer, and grants rights to a breeder who claims to have created something new from the material and knowledge of the very farmer.”
An Iraqi farmer described the pitiful state of today’s agriculture:
“Since the invasion prices have skyrocketed, I don’t know why! So many farmers have stopped farming; they cannot afford it anymore.”
The U.S agribusiness is now reaping huge profits from this collapse, with Iraq importing agricultural products worth one billion dollars a year.
The GRAIN article concludes with the following words:
“While political sovereignty remains an illusion, food sovereignty for the Iraqi people has already been made near impossible by these new regulations. Iraq's freedom and sovereignty will remain questionable for as long as Iraqis do not have control over what they sow, grow, reap and eat.”
The purpose of the law is to facilitate the establishment of a new seed market in Iraq, where transnational corporations can sell their seeds-genetically modified or not, which farmers would have to purchase afresh every single cropping season”.

So, Iraqi farmers now MUST buy their seeds from transnational corps and ARE NOT ALLOWED to buy seeds from neighbors? Is that what you are implying?
 

Harrekin

Well-Known Member
The purpose of the law is to facilitate the establishment of a new seed market in Iraq, where transnational corporations can sell their seeds-genetically modified or not, which farmers would have to purchase afresh every single cropping season”.

So, Iraqi farmers now MUST buy their seeds from transnational corps and ARE NOT ALLOWED to buy seeds from neighbors? Is that what you are implying?
Yeah, it basically says it gives companies the right to sell patented seed and that it will uphold patents if they're bypassed.

So in other words, they legalised GM seed and have Western levels of patent protection now...

GAYprotection clearly knows he's lying, he just obviously assumes we're all too stupid to notice.
 

AlabamaRedneck

New Member
fuck you...
Well, I've been out of town on business for the past 5 days, and haven't had access to this site...but I'm home now and feel the love from all of you...

First of all "Cheezy", fuck you...you're probably a stupid young dumb fuck who thinks we're gonna win this war without first winning a few battles along the way...you big dummy (as my bro-in-law calls me)...

My light-hearted proposal was NOT perfect...I know...but for a lot of us small-time, personal growers who do nothing otherwise illegal, it would be a HUGE improvement over what we have now...

A FEDERAL OK to grow all the personal smack you want...damn, you'd be STUPID to oppose that...

I never said you HAD to agree to the proposal...it sort of implicitly stated that you could continue to grow illegally under risk of current penalties if you wanted...that's your choice...

Personally, I worry about my small personal grow somehow being detected by the cops...and I wish like hell I could legally grow for personal use...so much that I would GLADLY agree to the proposal I suggested...you could opt to continue to grow any way you wish...

The problem here (I'm guessing, but it's a good guess I think) is that most of the nay-sayers to this proposal grow in large quantities to SELL illegally...and you stupid dumb fuckers are NEVER going to get what you want in terms of growing to sell...NEVER.

Get real. We have to make small gains here and there, and my proposal would be a HUGE gain for personal growers...

And who knows, maybe the law could be passed without random searches being legal...but probably not at first...
 

NLXSK1

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Well, I've been out of town on business for the past 5 days, and haven't had access to this site...but I'm home now and feel the love from all of you...

First of all "Cheezy", fuck you...you're probably a stupid young dumb fuck who thinks we're gonna win this war without first winning a few battles along the way...you big dummy (as my bro-in-law calls me)...

My light-hearted proposal was NOT perfect...I know...but for a lot of us small-time, personal growers who do nothing otherwise illegal, it would be a HUGE improvement over what we have now...

A FEDERAL OK to grow all the personal smack you want...damn, you'd be STUPID to oppose that...

I never said you HAD to agree to the proposal...it sort of implicitly stated that you could continue to grow illegally under risk of current penalties if you wanted...that's your choice...

Personally, I worry about my small personal grow somehow being detected by the cops...and I wish like hell I could legally grow for personal use...so much that I would GLADLY agree to the proposal I suggested...you could opt to continue to grow any way you wish...

The problem here (I'm guessing, but it's a good guess I think) is that most of the nay-sayers to this proposal grow in large quantities to SELL illegally...and you stupid dumb fuckers are NEVER going to get what you want in terms of growing to sell...NEVER.

Get real. We have to make small gains here and there, and my proposal would be a HUGE gain for personal growers...

And who knows, maybe the law could be passed without random searches being legal...but probably not at first...
I think you managed to propose something that everyone could agree upon... That it was dumb.

Your proposition does not reduce the illegality of growing unless you are willing to give up your other constitutional rights.

No thanks...
 

ChesusRice

Well-Known Member
Well, I've been out of town on business for the past 5 days, and haven't had access to this site...but I'm home now and feel the love from all of you...

First of all "Cheezy", fuck you...you're probably a stupid young dumb fuck who thinks we're gonna win this war without first winning a few battles along the way...you big dummy (as my bro-in-law calls me)...

My light-hearted proposal was NOT perfect...I know...but for a lot of us small-time, personal growers who do nothing otherwise illegal, it would be a HUGE improvement over what we have now...

A FEDERAL OK to grow all the personal smack you want...damn, you'd be STUPID to oppose that...

I never said you HAD to agree to the proposal...it sort of implicitly stated that you could continue to grow illegally under risk of current penalties if you wanted...that's your choice...

Personally, I worry about my small personal grow somehow being detected by the cops...and I wish like hell I could legally grow for personal use...so much that I would GLADLY agree to the proposal I suggested...you could opt to continue to grow any way you wish...

The problem here (I'm guessing, but it's a good guess I think) is that most of the nay-sayers to this proposal grow in large quantities to SELL illegally...and you stupid dumb fuckers are NEVER going to get what you want in terms of growing to sell...NEVER.

Get real. We have to make small gains here and there, and my proposal would be a HUGE gain for personal growers...

And who knows, maybe the law could be passed without random searches being legal...but probably not at first...
Give the Cops blanket permission to search my home? That is your grand idea?

FUCK YOU!
 

echelon1k1

New Member
Give the Cops blanket permission to search my home? That is your grand idea?

FUCK YOU!
I rather give them permission to search my home and allow me to PROVE I'm a compliant, law abiding citizen, than have someone stand over me while I piss in a cup!
 

Moldy

Well-Known Member
Give the Cops blanket permission to search my home? That is your grand idea?

FUCK YOU!
Well shit, they already read your email, listen in on the phone, and watch your finances, at this point we don't have privacy anyway but letting pigs in your house without a warrant to approve of your weed? My dog would puke at that policy.
 
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