A New Proposed Federal Marijuana Law...

[AlabamaRedneck]

Proposed new FEDERAL marijuana law (in "non-legal" terms; I'm not a lawyer):

Any household headed by a person 21 years of age or older can grow marijuana on their own property, indoors or outdoors, under the following rules:

1. A total of eight marijuana plants can be grown at any given time: up to four plants in the vegetative stage, and up to four plants in the flowering stage.

2. Additionally, a total of one pound of dried (or drying) marijuana can be stored inside the house, as long as it was grown according to (1) above.

3. In order for the "household head" to be lawfully "accepted" for (1) and (2) above, he/she must sign a legally binding document agreeing to random police searches of the property on which the marijuana is being grown. Any violations noted in any search must be witnessed by, corroborated by, and video-taped by a "marijuana growing advocate" (so a rouge cop doesn't frame a law-abiding grower).

4. The number of searches per household will be limited to two per month, and six per year (this doesn't mean there will be this many searches; it just places upper bounds on the number of searches allowed).

5. Any person 18 years of age or older can use marijuana in such a household.

I realize that the legal wording of such a law would probably surpass "War and Peace" in length, but surely you get my drift...

Good proposal?

 

[Rob Roy]

Not a good proposal. Fuck the nanny police state.

 

[AlabamaRedneck]

Not a good proposal. Fuck the nanny police state.

Please explain. Certainly my proposal is better than having to constantly worry that our grows are going to be raided by the police?

Legality of personal grows would definitely be better than what we have now. Please be serious.

 

[Rob Roy]

Please explain. Certainly my proposal is better than having to constantly worry that our grows are going to be raided by the police?

Legality of personal grows would definitely be better than what we have now. Please be serious.

Why concede anything that limits people from peaceful self ownership. Who are "they" to tell you or me what and how much we can grow of ANYTHING? Please be serious. We're "free" aren't we? Isn't that what they tell us?

 

[AlabamaRedneck]

Why concede anything that limits people from peaceful self ownership. Who are "they" to tell you or me what and how much we can grow of ANYTHING? Please be serious. We're "free" aren't we? Isn't that what they tell us?

As much as I respect your opinion (and I do), I must ask you to please refrain from posting in this thread any longer.

I proposed a BIG STEP above what we have now, and you criticized it because it's not a "free-for-all, devil-may-care, do-as-you-fucking-please" proposition.

We MIGHT get to your position some day, but not without getting to my proposal first...

Go back to sleep...

 

[Rob Roy]

As much as I respect your opinion (and I do), I must ask you to please refrain from posting in this thread any longer.

I proposed a BIG STEP above what we have now, and you criticized it because it's not a "free-for-all, devil-may-care, do-as-you-fucking-please" proposition.

We MIGHT get to your position some day, but not without getting to my proposal first...

Go back to sleep...

May your chains rest lightly upon you. Peace.

 

[AlabamaRedneck]

May your chains rest lightly upon you. Peace.

And may your Big Foot avatar come to life and teach you some manners...

 

[ChesusRice]

proposed new federal marijuana law (in "non-legal" terms; i'm not a lawyer):

Any household headed by a person 21 years of age or older can grow marijuana on their own property, indoors or outdoors, under the following rules:

1. A total of eight marijuana plants can be grown at any given time: Up to four plants in the vegetative stage, and up to four plants in the flowering stage.

2. Additionally, a total of one pound of dried (or drying) marijuana can be stored inside the house, as long as it was grown according to (1) above.

3. In order for the "household head" to be lawfully "accepted" for (1) and (2) above, he/she must sign a legally binding document agreeing to random police searches of the property on which the marijuana is being grown. Any violations noted in any search must be witnessed by, corroborated by, and video-taped by a "marijuana growing advocate" (so a rouge cop doesn't frame a law-abiding grower).

4. The number of searches per household will be limited to two per month, and six per year (this doesn't mean there will be this many searches; it just places upper bounds on the number of searches allowed).

5. Any person 18 years of age or older can use marijuana in such a household.

i realize that the legal wording of such a law would probably surpass "war and peace" in length, but surely you get my drift...

Good proposal?

fuck you...

 

[kelly4]

fuck you...

I have to agree with Cheezy on this one.

 

[chewberto]

I third that!!!!

 

[NLXSK1]

I propose the government just leaves us all the hell alone...

 

[DNAprotection]

As much as I respect your opinion (and I do), I must ask you to please refrain from posting in this thread any longer.

I proposed a BIG STEP above what we have now, and you criticized it because it's not a "free-for-all, devil-may-care, do-as-you-fucking-please" proposition.

We MIGHT get to your position some day, but not without getting to my proposal first...

Go back to sleep...

As critters born of this garden planet we all come with certain unalienable/self evident rights like defending oneself against harm etc...and of course planting seeds and growing plants for ones own needs is also on the list that you have apparently so eagerly tossed out.
Regulate sales if you wish, but stay out of my garden unless your in need of simply sharing what food or medicine I will gladly share for free

 

[Doer]

Proposed new FEDERAL marijuana law (in "non-legal" terms; I'm not a lawyer):

Any household headed by a person 21 years of age or older can grow marijuana on their own property, indoors or outdoors, under the following rules:

1. A total of eight marijuana plants can be grown at any given time: up to four plants in the vegetative stage, and up to four plants in the flowering stage.

2. Additionally, a total of one pound of dried (or drying) marijuana can be stored inside the house, as long as it was grown according to (1) above.

3. In order for the "household head" to be lawfully "accepted" for (1) and (2) above, he/she must sign a legally binding document agreeing to random police searches of the property on which the marijuana is being grown. Any violations noted in any search must be witnessed by, corroborated by, and video-taped by a "marijuana growing advocate" (so a rouge cop doesn't frame a law-abiding grower).

4. The number of searches per household will be limited to two per month, and six per year (this doesn't mean there will be this many searches; it just places upper bounds on the number of searches allowed).

5. Any person 18 years of age or older can use marijuana in such a household.

I realize that the legal wording of such a law would probably surpass "War and Peace" in length, but surely you get my drift...

Good proposal?

Terrible. But, a start.

#1 and #2 - Plant limits was already struck down by the 9th Circuit.
#3 - is Anti-Con
#4 - will lead to harassment, once you signed up to randomly searched
#5 - bait for the bill

Strike that. Bad start.

What a minute....this is your proposal? I thought it was in Legislature session.


STUPID

 

[Flaming Pie]

Sign a document agreeing to up to 2 police searches a month of your property? Fuck that.

See that is the problem. Once you start limiting plant count, you have to have people investigate your home to enforce it.

I don't let strangers into my home.

 

[Doer]

And may your Big Foot avatar come to life and teach you some manners...

Now you want to preach manner. Need facial expression, tone of voice, etc for manners. You are reading harshly in your mind.

 

[DNAprotection]

Proposed new FEDERAL marijuana law (in "non-legal" terms; I'm not a lawyer):

Any household headed by a person 21 years of age or older can grow marijuana on their own property, indoors or outdoors, under the following rules:

1. A total of eight marijuana plants can be grown at any given time: up to four plants in the vegetative stage, and up to four plants in the flowering stage.

2. Additionally, a total of one pound of dried (or drying) marijuana can be stored inside the house, as long as it was grown according to (1) above.

3. In order for the "household head" to be lawfully "accepted" for (1) and (2) above, he/she must sign a legally binding document agreeing to random police searches of the property on which the marijuana is being grown. Any violations noted in any search must be witnessed by, corroborated by, and video-taped by a "marijuana growing advocate" (so a rouge cop doesn't frame a law-abiding grower).

4. The number of searches per household will be limited to two per month, and six per year (this doesn't mean there will be this many searches; it just places upper bounds on the number of searches allowed).

5. Any person 18 years of age or older can use marijuana in such a household.

I realize that the legal wording of such a law would probably surpass "War and Peace" in length, but surely you get my drift...

Good proposal?

Is that where the part is that says 'all plants grown in accordance and in agreement with this contract shall be produced from FDA approved seeds/varieties', which translates to corporate varieties = genetically engineered and patented 'safe' varieties supplied by our king (or queen as dear Doer insists) Monsanto et al?
More likely the wording I'm referring to will be added to the (actual) current proposals in congress before the current and reinvented smoke screen is through.

 

[Doer]

Is that where the part is that says 'all plants grown in accordance and in agreement with this contract shall be produced from FDA approved seeds/varieties', which translates to corporate varieties = genetically engineered and patented 'safe' varieties supplied by our king (or queen as dear Doer insists) Monsanto et al?
More likely the wording I'm referring to will be added to the (actual) current proposals in congress before the current and reinvented smoke screen is through.

H.R. 2306 (112th): Ending Federal Marijuana Prohibition Act of 2011


No it will not. This is no where near any federal proposal. Neither yours nor Alabama's, is even close to what it proposed. Both ideas are dangerous.

We want to end the madness not continue it.

SEC. 3. DEREGULATION OF MARIHUANA.

• (a) Removed From Schedule of Controlled Substances- Schedule I(c) of section 202(c) of the Controlled Substances Act (21 U.S.C. 812(c)) is amended--

• • (1) by striking `marihuana'; and

• • (2) by striking `tetrahydrocannabinols'.

• (b) Removal of Prohibition on Import and Export- Section 1010 of the Controlled Substances Import and Export Act (21 U.S.C. 960) is amended--

• • (1) by striking subparagraph (G) of subsection (b)(1);

• • (2) by striking subparagraph (G) of subsection (b)(2); and

• • (3) by striking paragraph (4) of subsection (b).

 

[DNAprotection]

Unfortunately when any new fed legislation is finally adopted into law there is no doubt in my mind that certain obvious interests will have their way in amending it to be in line with what I stated earlier regardless of anyone's wishes or intent.
Examples for the needy:
1942 'hemp for victory' campaign to grow hemp for the war under strict contract that seeds would be supplied by gov etc...
also there is this more recent example:
http://www.iraqcoalition.org/regulations/20040426_CPAORD_81_Patents_Law.pdf

http://www.alternet.org/story/62273/why_iraqi_farmers_might_prefer_death_to_paul_bremer's_order_81

https://www.commondreams.org/view/2012/06/24

Published on Sunday, June 24, 2012 by Common Dreams [h=2]Patenting Staple Foods (Bremer’s Order 81) Is Ruinous to Iraq’s Agriculture[/h]
by Adnan Al-Daini

In my early teens in Iraq, in the late fifties and early sixties, I used to accompany my father to farms to buy wheat grain for our own consumption, and a few sacks more to sell in the village to make some profit. I remember the discussions between my father and the small farmers regarding the quality of the grain, and whether the dough would stick (hounta khabbaza) to the walls of the clay oven (tennor) in which my mother baked the bread. This particular quality is essential to prevent it falling into the hot embers at the bottom of the oven. The farmers used to assure us of the quality, giving a little history of how the grain had been improved by knowledge sharing between farmers, with the best quality seed being adopted. The system had an inbuilt informal ability to improve the quality of the wheat grain. This method of sharing expertise, and the use of knowledge passed down through the generations were applied to every aspect of farming and fruit orchards to improve the quality and quantity of the produce.

Farmers harvest wheat outside of Sulaimaniyah, Iraq. (Emma Piper-Burket)An article on GRAIN website entitled “Iraq's new patent law: a declaration of war against farmers” gives the origin of this law and its detrimental effect on agriculture in Iraq thus:
“When former Coalition Provisional Authority (CPA) administrator L. Paul Bremer III left Baghdad after the so-called "transfer of sovereignty" in June 2004, he left behind the 100 orders he enacted as chief of the occupation authority in Iraq. Among them was Order 81 on "Patent, Industrial Design, Undisclosed Information, Integrated Circuits and Plant Variety." This order amends Iraq's original patent law of 1970 and unless and until it is revised or repealed by a new Iraqi government, it now has the status and force of a binding law. With important implications for farmers and the future of agriculture in Iraq... The purpose of the law is to facilitate the establishment of a new seed market in Iraq, where transnational corporations can sell their seeds-genetically modified or not, which farmers would have to purchase afresh every single cropping season”. For generations, small farmers in Iraq operated in an essentially unregulated, informal seed supply system. Farm-saved seed and the free innovation with an exchange of planting materials among farming communities has long been the basis of agricultural practice. This is now history. The CPA has made it illegal for Iraqi farmers to re-use seeds harvested from new varieties registered under the law.”
Iraq, lest we forget, is ancient Mesopotamia, the land between the two rivers, the Tigris and Euphrates; this is the land where organized agriculture was invented around 5000 BC. The Sumerians, Assyrians and Babylonians are the ancestors of the people of Iraq and through their work and ingenuity they went on to establish the great cities of Ur and Babylon.
This patenting law, in many instances, involves the pirating of knowledge gained by farmers sharing their knowledge and experience through millennia:
“Such kind of "biopiracy" is fueled by an Intellectual Property Right (IPR) regime that ignores the prior art of the farmer, and grants rights to a breeder who claims to have created something new from the material and knowledge of the very farmer.”
An Iraqi farmer described the pitiful state of today’s agriculture:
“Since the invasion prices have skyrocketed, I don’t know why! So many farmers have stopped farming; they cannot afford it anymore.”
The U.S agribusiness is now reaping huge profits from this collapse, with Iraq importing agricultural products worth one billion dollars a year.
The GRAIN article concludes with the following words:
“While political sovereignty remains an illusion, food sovereignty for the Iraqi people has already been made near impossible by these new regulations. Iraq's freedom and sovereignty will remain questionable for as long as Iraqis do not have control over what they sow, grow, reap and eat.”

 

[Doer]

Well, "obvious" "I have no doubt"

You didn't even know the paragraph of the Farm Bill in the the other thread you called Monsanto Protection.

You seriously have been not correct even once.

 

[Highlowazupkush]

four in veg stage and four in flowering stage? wtf!?!?!?!?




sorry let me rephrase that... What the fuck!?


Just make it legal. the only laws that are needed, that I can think of this moment, are laws to protect young people. Weed can temporarily stunt a persons ability to learn things, therefore young people who go to school shouldn't really be smoking the stuff.
I mean, they can if they want to, but its not going to help them if they actually want to learn something.



Vote for Highlowazupkush in the upcoming election!!