How to harvest and dry without the grass taste

Born Again Vegan

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Here's my experience. I've followed all the sticky's for advice and then some. I've tried many methods of drying and curing and not once have I had a grassy, hay like product.


I do have a microscope and although I do like looking at the trichomes and seeing what's going on with them, I
find them irrelevant in terms or time to harvest, or maybe go so far as to say they can be misleading.
For example some strains never produce amber trichs so you could wait an eternity. Another example would be some strains like a Blue Cheese I had would at 8 weeks have mostly cloudy, some Amber trichs. Ready to chop right? Wrong! A day later new flowers pop out everywhere, trichs are now mostly clear and buds continue to swell for another week.


As for the argument chop early for a high and late for couch-lock, I counter with grow the right strain for the right purpose and harvest when it's ripe every time . For example a Sat Dom Thai will produce a nice mellow day smoke and a Kush will put out a night time smoke, harvest early for either and you are just preventing yourself from getting the maximum amount of weight and potency.


So, when is it ready? Well chances are it won't all be ready at the same time. Take a look at a fruiting tomato plant. A few tomatoes are red, a couple are a red/green mix, some are small and fully green. Is it ready?
I look at one of my Medicine Mans at eight weeks. The two main colas are ripe, almost all flowers have died and receded back to the calyx. The individual calyx's are fat and swollen like they are full of seed. In tomato terms she is red.
the lower buds are not quite there, a lot of white flowers and some calyx's are fat, others are still small. So I cut off the colas and hang them to dry and leave the rest for another week to continue to ripen.


Now on to the all important dry.
People say 5-10 days, 2 weeks optimum. Leave the leaves on, don't leave them on. 25 degrees 50% humidity. Air flow, no air flow, direct fan on buds, no direct fan on buds. Yada yadda.


Now I've tried and tested it all, using a hygrometer and fan controllers, fans for air flow and dishes of water to raise humidity, getting it all perfect and fortunately for all those of use that really cant be arsed getting high tech I'm here to say you don't.
The drying time is not important I've had buds dry overnight and after a week, both tasted fantastic. What is important is making sure you jar your buds before the stem snaps. BEFORE!
Okay you don't want it too hot, cold, or humid but inside it shouldn't be. I just hang buds on string in a cardboard box and stick it in my cupboard. I harvest and trim late at night and by morning the smell from the cupboard aint too bad, it's really just the chopping and trimming that produces so much smell.


So now it's hanging I check twice a day. When the buds on the cola feel dry and the stem still bends and not
snaps into the jar they go. At this point I chop the cola into more manageable pieces but make sure every but goes iinto the jar with a good bit of stalk on it.
What happens now is the moisture retained in the stalk now rehydrates the buds, so twelve hours or so later when I open the jar they all seem like they've just been harvested. Now they go in a brown bag, cardboard box, or drying rack for however long until they feel dry but slightly sticky. Back into the jar they go and on with the process. After a couple of rounds of jarring and bagging finally when you open the jar the buds will no longer feel wet but just moist, so now they are left in the jar with the lid off for a few hrs. This continues until the buds are sticky and perfect and then you forget about it.


As for grassy weed I've never had it so I can only assume it comes from either not trimming before drying, growing poor genetics, or not growing organically! Hope this helps.


PEACE
 

Ninjabowler

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Grassy weed is from cutting your plant down too early usually. The plants not ready and it tastes like hay. If you cure it in jars long enough it will start to taste...a little better.
 

The BLaKsmith

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I used to buy off this guy who had grass weed but you got freaking loads of it cheap and one day I decided to leave some of it in a jar and wait a week and came back to some improved weed which seemed to have a better high than before. cheers for taking the time to share your methods
:joint: :peace:
 

qwizoking

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Have to disagree with some strains not turning amber. Frankly its impossible thc turns amber when it degrades. Fact of life. I only grow landrace sativas and while they take so long to go from clear to cloudy then amber it can seem that way. But they will
 

redeye jedi88

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whoever told you to have the fan directly on the buds and to have no air flow while drying is an idiot....

you've had buds dry overnight? my popcorn/trimmings dont even dry overnight
 

qwizoking

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I keep seeing walls of text like this from newbs with a low post count I think its like them trying to join riu with a bang and get credibility or something idk
 

redeye jedi88

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its a shame people are throwing more misleading information out there i feel sorry for the new guys who are actually trying to learn how to grow
 

Born Again Vegan

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I used to buy off this guy who had grass weed but you got freaking loads of it cheap and one day I decided to leave some of it in a jar and wait a week and came back to some improved weed which seemed to have a better high than before. cheers for taking the time to share your methods
:joint: :peace:
Lol likewise good to know, the problem is when I'm in the position of having to buy shit weed, it's never around long enough to get through a cure! No worries on sharing, it's thanks to a few good souls on this and another site that have helped me produce my own pukka meds. :peace:
 

Born Again Vegan

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Have to disagree with some strains not turning amber. Frankly its impossible thc turns amber when it degrades. Fact of life. I only grow landrace sativas and while they take so long to go from clear to cloudy then amber it can seem that way. But they will
Fair enough, in your exp. I was quoting someone who likes his Sativas. I however don't, apart from being an indoor grower, it's the couch lock strains I'm after!
 

kentuckyboy

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In my experience, buds can smell like hay when you chop a plant to early. I had this happen to me when I was younger and chopped a plant that I had outside to early.
 

Born Again Vegan

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whoever told you to have the fan directly on the buds and to have no air flow while drying is an idiot....

you've had buds dry overnight? my popcorn/trimmings dont even dry overnight
No one told me to put a fan on my buds I read someone recommending it on here, and yes I've had buds dry over night, I've had them dry in ten minutes. I've put them in my airing cupboard, ontop of the boiler, and in the oven. My point was they all tasted good with no hay/grass taste.
 

Born Again Vegan

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I keep seeing walls of text like this from newbs with a low post count I think its like them trying to join riu with a bang and get credibility or something idk
These "walls of text" are people trying to help you. That's pretty small minded of you to think that a low RIU post count denotes someone with no experience. Heaven forbid anyone that starts growing without joining an online forum. I would consider myself fairly new to growing the herb, two years under my belt, but I've been growing a life time and that shit transfers.

What I can also tell you about is life. In life there are haters, negative, small minded, petty cunts thats can't experience happiness so they shit on everyone else. Well, I'm a big boy, with a big dick, and big buds, and I'm gonna help some newbs on the way and your words mean shit to me :peace:
 

qwizoking

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Ha whoa. Your posts keep getting more and more aggressive... chill out man. Besides I was once new here too, I haven't even been here that long. Its just this is what new people to the site do.... Sometimes
 

jamboss

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1. harvesting too early
2. using chemical nutes
3. not dryed properly
4. a combination of the above will make you ask yourself if you're smoking grass clipping

From all my experiences when grown organically, harvested prematurely and properly dried, weed will still taste better than the 4 listed above.
 

Born Again Vegan

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Ha whoa. Your posts keep getting more and more aggressive... chill out man. Besides I was once new here too, I haven't even been here that long. Its just this is what new people to the site do.... Sometimes
Cool man, I do have a hot temper I apologise for that. But I ain't looking for stardom, I have a family for that. I wanna help as many people as I can grow decent meds. No I haven't got the most knowledge or experience but my Guan sure as hell beats all the stuff on the market near me and I've got dudes with twenty years experience coming to me for advice. I'm still fool enough to get bud rot again tho :(
 

Born Again Vegan

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Dankster uses a dehydrator with good results.
Yeah? I've seen some one do that who was going to eat it, wasn't sure how it'd affect the taste. I figure its got to be like putting it in the oven on a low heat.
Thats my method to speed dry, that or the microwave, usually the waves to be honest because its so much easier. Wrap the bud in kitchen paper and zap it for twenty seconds a time, taking it out in betw:peace:een zaps to let the steam out. Gives a slight green taste in a joint but dank is dank it still tastes good!
 
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