• Here is a link to the full explanation: https://rollitup.org/t/welcome-back-did-you-try-turning-it-off-and-on-again.1104810/

The cartel ALWAYS gets its cut!

spandy

Well-Known Member
extortion that literally NO ONE is being forced to pay.

sounds like a bunch of morons complaining that the sky is blue.
If I want to open that fucking business I would HAVE to pay. How is that a free market when you have to ask permission and pay a fee just to try? Why cant people decide where they shop, what foods, products and services they buy based on their own assumptions and investigations, isn't making our own decisions part of adult life?

But I forget too many aren't smart enough to ask questions and look around before they shop somewhere, always just see the sign saying "Gubermint Approved" and they walk in like mindless sheep.

The system has been slowly turned around and is now designed to stop the small business owner at all costs, while big corporations pay less than they ever have in taxes and avoid civil and criminal penalties at every turn. If you can't see this, you are fucking blind. Obamacare crushes not only the small business owner in cost of operations, but it crushes their work force as well. Who wants to work only 28 hours a week because their employer cant afford Obamacare, so all employee hours were cut to dodge paying the insurance. Now we have more people working less hours, which not only puts less money in their pockets, it gives them less time to become more efficient at work as each day goes by. Ultimately, it will effect work performance, which makes it even harder for the small guy to out perform the big guy.
Just one example.
 

spandy

Well-Known Member
Q- What's the difference between a "qualified douche" and an "unqualified douche" ?

A- The "qualified douche" paid the extortion

Fuck extortion.
Just Bucky wanting his government to run his life for him. They pay him, he pays them nothing, it's a good deal for someone who wants to be taken care of.
 

UncleBuck

Well-Known Member
If I want to open that fucking business I would HAVE to pay. How is that a free market when you have to ask permission and pay a fee just to try? Why cant people decide where they shop, what foods, products and services they buy based on their own assumptions and investigations, isn't making our own decisions part of adult life?

But I forget too many aren't smart enough to ask questions and look around before they shop somewhere, always just see the sign saying "Gubermint Approved" and they walk in like mindless sheep.

The system has been slowly turned around and is now designed to stop the small business owner at all costs, while big corporations pay less than they ever have in taxes and avoid civil and criminal penalties at every turn. If you can't see this, you are fucking blind. Obamacare crushes not only the small business owner in cost of operations, but it crushes their work force as well. Who wants to work only 28 hours a week because their employer cant afford Obamacare, so all employee hours were cut to dodge paying the insurance. Now we have more people working less hours, which not only puts less money in their pockets, it gives them less time to become more efficient at work as each day goes by. Ultimately, it will effect work performance, which makes it even harder for the small guy to out perform the big guy.
Just one example.
open up a lemonade stand and employ less than 50 people and all your complaints go away. or ask your neighbors if you can mow their lawns, like NLXSK does.

business licenses are not going away any time soon. people like knowing that their contractor is competent BEFORE they rip up their house, instead of waiting until after and suing.

sorry that life is not fair, cupcake.
 

spandy

Well-Known Member
It doesn't matter what you do if you decide to go into business, you always have
upfront costs and operating capital is also needed.

Every business needs a license, this is nothing new.

If you want to play on your own and not be under the thumb of some "evil boss or employer"
then put up your cash and put your money where your mouth is. Risk your assets for a brighter
future or just sit by idle and quit complaining about how the rest of the world functions.

Pay to play, it is how the business world works.

Considering this is for med shops, out of curiosity what are the licensing costs
of a pharmacy? It would be more in line with the med shop as cannabis is not in the
same classification as alcohol.
Dude, you don't get it.

How many dudes can afford the capital of start up and pay yourself along the way without going under, raise your hands.....oh wow, lots of potential entrepreneurs.

Okay, now those of you who can afford the start up capital AND all the bullshit fees and licensing and whatnot that the government wants to suck from your pocket and afford to pay yourself along the way without going under....oh wow, very few are left........


The problem IS the "pay to play" mentality. Only the ballers should be on the court, but instead its mostly people who had rich parents.
 

UncleBuck

Well-Known Member
You are an obtuse moron, Buck. That is one level dumber than a normal moron. Way to go, Buck.
you go ahead and sit there and whine in complain and bitch and moan, ya old coot.

meanwhile, entrepreneurs in MA will be lining up out the door for their dispensary licenses.
 

UncleBuck

Well-Known Member
Dude, you don't get it.

How many dudes can afford the capital of start up and pay yourself along the way without going under, raise your hands.....oh wow, lots of potential entrepreneurs.

Okay, now those of you who can afford the start up capital AND all the bullshit fees and licensing and whatnot that the government wants to suck from your pocket and afford to pay yourself along the way without going under....oh wow, very few are left........


The problem IS the "pay to play" mentality. Should be only those who gots game should be on the field, not just all the kids with rich daddys.
quit yer bitching and pull yourself up by the bootstraps, princess.

quit demanding that government do everything for you, ya whiny little bitch.

 

cannabineer

Ursus marijanus
open up a lemonade stand and employ less than 50 people and all your complaints go away. or ask your neighbors if you can mow their lawns, like NLXSK does.

business licenses are not going away any time soon. people like knowing that their contractor is competent BEFORE they rip up their house, instead of waiting until after and suing.

sorry that life is not fair, cupcake.
In that instance, if licenses serve a consumer protection/certification function, what would be a fair ratio of license cost to the cost of providing the inspection&certification? Liquor licenses and taxicab medallions that cost a (emphasis) house don't seem to serve anybody except the modern equivalent of highwaymen taking a nice skim off the traffic. Jmo. cn
 

spandy

Well-Known Member
quit yer bitching and pull yourself up by the bootstraps, princess.

quit demanding that government do everything for you, ya whiny little bitch.

Dude I pull 6 figs a year, I own the fucking place. I started it all on a couple hundred dollars because I said fuck the fees, fuck the licensing. I couldn't afford it either, like most guys and gals, but did it anyway. My argument is for those who would do it if the fees weren't holding them back. Not everyone is willing to go against what their "trusted" government informs them they must do everyday, but they shouldn't have to put up a fucking fight just to try and make some money.

I want the government to get THE FUCK OUT OF EVERYONES WAY so it's not just some rich kid playing with daddys money who gets to open these things, you'd have rich and poor standing side by side competing for the same share of the market that is available. Do you really think the people of MA are going to get the best dispensary that would be available to them? Fuck no they aren't, they will only get the best out of those who had the money to drop on the fucking piece of paper that will hang on the wall.


I get it though Bucky, it's May, a long 31 day month. Tough to make it all the way with so little. You'd think your government would give you more food stamps on the longer months. Fucking bastards. But hey don't do anything to better your position, cause June is coming bro, it's almost here, and you once again will be taken care of by the ones who provide for you. Besides, you couldn't afford the licensing fees anyway. I know I couldn't.
 

UncleBuck

Well-Known Member
Dude I pull 6 figs a year, I own the fucking place. I started it all on a couple hundred dollars because I said fuck the fees, fuck the licensing. I couldn't afford it either, like most guys and gals, but did it anyway. My argument is for those who would do it if the fees weren't holding them back. Not everyone is willing to go against what their "trusted" government informs them they must do everyday, but they shouldn't have to put up a fucking fight just to try and make some money.

I want the government to get THE FUCK OUT OF EVERYONES WAY so it's not just some rich kid playing with daddys money who gets to open these things, you'd have rich and poor standing side by side competing for the same share of the market that is available. Do you really think the people of MA are going to get the best dispensary that would be available to them? Fuck no they aren't, they will only get the best out of those who had the money to drop on the fucking piece of paper that will hang on the wall.


I get it though Bucky, it's May, a long 31 day month. Tough to make it all the way with so little. You'd think your government would give you more food stamps on the longer months. Fucking bastards. But hey don't do anything to better your position, cause June is coming bro, it's almost here, and you once again will be taken care of by the ones who provide for you. Besides, you couldn't afford the licensing fees anyway. I know I couldn't.
i have investors, i could easily afford the licensing fees.

no government handouts here, either. does that make you feel like less of a man? i bet it does. why else would you even try to bring in that unfounded garbage?

i made a little investment this year into a second greenhouse that should go a long way in helping me better my position. so another swing and a miss from you.

now shut your fucking face, you whiny pussy. if you don't want to pay a fee to open a dispensary, come out to oregon. aren't you guys the ones always flapping your worthless gums about states rights?

save your breath for the line of people wanting to sign up for a dispensary license in MA, dipshit.
 

Rob Roy

Well-Known Member
you go ahead and sit there and whine in complain and bitch and moan, ya old coot.

meanwhile, entrepreneurs in MA will be lining up out the door for their dispensary licenses.
A perfect example of the "unfree market" artificially affecting price and customer service.
 

echelon1k1

New Member
i have investors, i could easily afford the licensing fees.

no government handouts here, either. does that make you feel like less of a man? i bet it does. why else would you even try to bring in that unfounded garbage?

i made a little investment this year into a second greenhouse that should go a long way in helping me better my position. so another swing and a miss from you.

now shut your fucking face, you whiny pussy. if you don't want to pay a fee to open a dispensary, come out to oregon. aren't you guys the ones always flapping your worthless gums about states rights?

save your breath for the line of people wanting to sign up for a dispensary license in MA, dipshit.
father-in-law handouts only accepted. either way you're still spending someone elses money...
 

UncleBuck

Well-Known Member
father-in-law handouts only accepted. either way you're still spending someone elses money...
nope, no handouts there either. just income that gets taxed in several states and by the federal government, too.

do you also call the paycheck you earn a handout?
 

nontheist

Well-Known Member
you mean to thank your own laziness and inability to pull yourself up by the bootstraps. where is that rugged individualism that you guys feel is all that is needed to cure our country?

since you live in your car in *the mcdonalds parking lot, i know you are mobile. come to oregon and open up a storefront here. it'll only cost ya about $500 to get your OMMP card and you're set.

when your dream fails, you will have no problem finding a bridge under which to park your car and live comfortably. we take care of our bums like you in this state.

Boy you're an A class imbecile, move to Oregon to open a store front where it's illegal to make a profit?. Goddamn Bucky you should tear down your Doofy built greenhouse and start giving business advice, this is fucking genius. You're the only one stupid enough that when they make cannabis legal in your state you still fucking break the law and now you're trying to talk others into it. fucking hysterical.
 

UncleBuck

Well-Known Member
Boy you're an A class imbecile, move to Oregon to open a store front where it's illegal to make a profit?. Goddamn Bucky you should tear down your Doofy built greenhouse and start giving business advice, this is fucking genius. You're the only one stupid enough that when they make cannabis legal in your state you still fucking break the law and now you're trying to talk others into it. fucking hysterical.
maybe try convincing all the known dispensary operators making hundreds of thousands of dollars that get bothered by no one. i'm sure your wit and cunning will persuade them into realizing how stupid a mistake they've all made. never mind that the one or two that got busted through their own sheer stupidity only got probation, they really need your counsel.

perhaps later tonight i'll go ahead and chuck that pound or so i just pulled out of my new greenhouse because it wasn't (over)built to your greesy standards.

dream on, tard.
 

nontheist

Well-Known Member
maybe try convincing all the known dispensary operators making hundreds of thousands of dollars that get bothered by no one. i'm sure your wit and cunning will persuade them into realizing how stupid a mistake they've all made. never mind that the one or two that got busted through their own sheer stupidity only got probation, they really need your counsel.

perhaps later tonight i'll go ahead and chuck that pound or so i just pulled out of my new greenhouse because it wasn't (over)built to your greesy standards.

dream on, tard.
Man there is a ton of excuses Bucky I didn't ask for any. Lets look at common knowledge facts here.

1: Oregon is fucking retarded if you want to profit off cannabis. Plenty of threads can be found when Bucky was trying to use this argument to his advantage.
2. you have a problem distinguishing your ass from a hole in the ground. Why would anyone listen to this bullshit your spouting when you obviously have no fucking idea who makes what hell you can't even get politics right.
3. You're fucking retarded for trying to make income off cannabis in Oregon really nothing else can be set about that.
 
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