Why ACT is mainly used only in the Cannabis world?

headtreep

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From the man himself http://www.microbeorganics.com/#What_is_Compost_Tea_


Please be aware that the quality of the compost or vermicompost used is directly proportional to the quality of the compost tea produced.

Some Measures;
50 gallons US is 189 liters
1 gal. = 3.78 liters
1 liter = 4.2 cups US
1 liter = 1.05 quarts US liquid
1 US ounce = 29.57 ml

[SIZE=+1]Bacteria/Archaea[/SIZE]
You will note that I use the expression bacteria/archaea rather than just bacteria. This is because recent scientific research has revealed that there is a distinct species, Archaea, co-habitating with bacteria which previously was called bacteria. The only way to tell them apart is through complex analysis. The difference is in their membrane structure and therefore their ability to process (digest) different substances. Because I can’t tell them apart under the microscope I have decided to name them both.

[SIZE=+1]A/ Recipe for a Diversity of Microbes; Nutrient Cycling [/SIZE]
- measurements do not need to be precise; expressed in different units in brackets.

*compost/vermicompost – 2.38% max. (4.5 liters), (19 cups US), (4.5 quarts US) – reduce as required according to brewer and water quality

*unsulphured pure black strap molasses - I recommend using 0.50% (just under 1 liter), (4 cups US) (1 quart US) [but you can use a maximum 0.75% (1.4 liters), (5.9 cups US), (1.4 quarts US)] – reduce as required according to brewer and water quality

*fish hydrolysate(high quality) - 0.063% - (120 ml); (4 ounces)
Do not use chemically deodorized liquid fish!

*kelp meal - 0.25% max. (0.5 liter or 500 ml), (17 ounces US), (0.5 quart US), (2 plus cups)
NOTE: This is a maximum amount of kelp and you can experiment using less. This is using regular grade kelp meal for livestock. If you have soluble kelp, I recommend using smaller amounts. Sometimes kelp meal can initially delay bacterial multiplication.

*soft rock phosphate granules/powder - 0.063% - (120 ml) (4 ounces), (0.5 cup)
We grind up the granules into a powder with a coffee grinder

Length of Brew;
This will provide a CT with a microbial content of, bacteria/archaea and fungal hyphae (if present in compost) when brewed for 18 to 24 hours. When using our fungal inhabited vermicompost, the optimum time seems to be 18 hours for a bacteria/archaea and fungal brew. If brewed for 30 to 36 hours (and up to 42 to 48 hours if you have a microscope) there will be flagellates and amoebae (& some ciliates) as well, providing a functioning microbial consortia which is better for nutrient cycling in the soil/root interface. Because of the variations in brewing compost tea, it is better to examine the microbial content with a microscope and decide at what period of the brew you should apply it but if you do not have a microscope then use the CT between the time periods mentioned above for the desired effects.

Extras (when using extras you may wish to adjust amounts of other ingredients to avoid overload)

*pyrophyllite clay powder – 0.063% - (120 ml), (4 ounces), (0.5 cup)
This is a good ingredient to stimulate more bacteria/archaea diversity which seems to experimentally contribute to disease control. It can be found here at a reasonable price. http://www.continentalclay.com/detail.php?PID=695&cat_id=197&sub_categoryID=4

*alfalfa meal – up to 0.25% (.5 liter or 500 ml), (17 ounces US), (0.5 quart US), (2 plus cups)
This promotes the growth of flagellates and amoebae and is also a fungal food. Just get the cheap stuff by the bag at the feed store, checking that it does not contain anti-microbials

*Canadian sphagnum peat moss Premier Brand – throw in a handful or two to promote flagellates and amoebae and/or fungal hyphae. Batches are inconsistent, so unless you have a microscope you won’t be sure which set of microbes it will promote but I have never seen anything bad.

[SIZE=+2][SIZE=+1]B/ Fungal Dominant;[/SIZE] [/SIZE]

*compost/vermicompost (fungal content) - 2.38% max. (4.5 liters), (19 cups US), (4.5 quarts US)

*unsulphured pure black strap molasses - 0.25% (475 ml rounded), (2 cups US), (0.5 quart US)
NOTE: Also experiment with eliminating black strap molasses. Recent trials have shown that with some types of compost the fungi does better. If you have a microscope check it out for yourself.
NOTE: If you have activated your compost with oat flour I recommend NOT using molasses in addition to fish hydrolysate unless you are willing to brew for a longer period and best to have a microscope.

*fish hydrolysate(high quality) - 0.190% - (360 ml) (12 ounces) Do not use chemically deodorized liquid fish! You may experiment using slightly higher amounts.

*kelp meal - 0.25% max. (.5 liter or 500 ml), (17 ounces US), (0.5 quart US), (2 plus cups)
NOTE: This is a maximum amount of kelp and you can experiment using less. This is using regular grade kelp meal for livestock. If you have soluble kelp, I recommend using smaller amounts. Sometimes kelp meal can initially delay bacterial multiplication.

*rock phosphate granules/powder - 0.063% - (120 ml), (4 ounces), (0.5 cup)
NOTE: We seem to get the same results using 100 ml of rock phosphate but experiment yourself. Sometimes we run the rock phosphate granules through the electric coffee grinder to get a fine powder.

Extras (when using extras you may wish to adjust amounts of other ingredients to avoid overload)

* Humic acid - I am no longer recommending the use of humic acid in compost tea, as I've not seen any benefits from doing so. Better to apply it directly to the soil.

*you could also add one of the Alaska ‘Humus’ products and/or Canadian sphagnum Premier brand at 0.25% or less. If there are fungi spores present in the substance, hyphae should grow.

*you may add a little soil or partially/completely decomposed forest litter (rotted leaves, wood pieces). If you are applying CT to grass or flowers use some local soil from a healthy (unmanipulated by man) area where similar plant species are doing well. If you are applying to deciduous trees or bushes then gather some soil or forest litter from a deciduous forest where the forest appears healthy and has that…you know… fabulous earthy odor. I recommend using 500 ml. (0.5 liter) or 2 cups to begin with and see how that works out. Careful to not use big chunks if using the Microbulator 50.

Length of Brew
Brew until fungal hyphae is observed with a microscope or for 18 to 24 hours. When using our fungal inhabited vermicompost, the optimum time seems to be 18 hours for a bacteria/archaea and fungal brew, however fungal hyphae is extracted at 10 hours with less bacteria/archaea present. If you want a fungal dominant brew this may be the best time to apply. For those of you with microscopes, check it out. This recipe, provided there are fungi spores in your compost, should produce a higher volume of fungal hyphae and reduced bacteria/archaea numbers.
 

headtreep

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In a 5 gal in basically a pinch of this and a pinch of that ;)

I've gone heavy like that before as well with no bad effects but it's not recommended. The other alternative is throwing the shit in a watering can and mixing with some water and pour aka slurry.
 

Sincerely420

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Yes 5 gallon bucket with a few air stones.. Using a good ol' powerful air pump... Cut all the ingredients in half? Thanks by the way.
Let's just say lets simplify EVERYTHING to keep it simple.

Don't put anything soluble or any kind of bottled ingredient in your tea other than the fish hydro if you have it.
Don't use fish emulsion tho, because it doesn't work the same.

Start with compost. Per 5 gallon I would say you can use a 1 1/2cups compost. Same with EWCs, but not together..
Go one of the other. Veg go with EWCs and a little compost. Flower go with compost and very little EWCS.
If you want balanced then go with mostly compost as a base as well.

From the compost you look at you amendments you wanna use like the kelp meal, alfalfa meal, fish hydro, ewc, etc.
Each of these add to the fungal or bacteria count in the teas, and from these amendments, plant soluble nutrients with come about.

You add the molasses as a food for the bennies that you're producing in the teas.
Once things get going I'm sure that they solubilize bits of the Molasses as well.

But there's sorta too much to type, but it's all on the net.
Certain things you add to the teas serve certain purposes.
I wouldn't go buying any "bennies in bottle" other than myco fungi.
And I DEF wouldn't add any to the teas until the minute before I apply them bro!

But there are little secrets you have to research a little to learn like kelp is prob the best thing you can use after compost, but used in excess it prevents other b/a from growing!

& You can just topdress the EWCs to keep that simple.

But the lass is chirping about me nerding too hard haha.
So I gotta roll again but get back with some specific questions after you do a little digging, and we can all break it down further.

There's some good AACT info posted on my Organic soil thread linked in my sig..
It's started out with how I mixed my soil, but I turned it into so of an organics for dummies lol, but hoarding all the stuff I found relevant.
It takes me a few times to get things sometimes, so I read them over and over until I do haha.

<as she sittin' here sighing like I can't hear her> pfffff :roll:
 

headtreep

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One thing we can all agree on. We don't need expensive bottles and we feed our soil not our plants. Veganics section anyone?????lmao
 

Cann

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Let's just say lets simplify EVERYTHING to keep it simple.
;-) this would be a good mantra for you sincerely...




headtreep, its pretty embarrassing that there are multiple veganics stickies and nothing on ROLS...i've contacted malignant about it, maybe I should ask another mod...
 

headtreep

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I was never much of an ACTer haha. This is a very healthy plant that got only a few ACT. The soil is less than 2 months old.
 

genuity

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pics,thats what I been waiting for.....these are clones(same mom) in reuse soilless mix(6 months old),that I amend.clone on the left got compost tea brew(2x a week),the one on the right got CNS17 veg(2x a week)
 

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headtreep

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That's my little project above Rrog. I think I can back a bit off on the ACTing a bit. My plants seem to be monsters under that 600. I do have an open mind and take educated steps in the right direction especially if something is going to save me work. After all, am I a medical patient that is dependent on this medicine and getting the best with the least amount of effort is something I need with my condition.
 

headtreep

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Is that like a perlite mulch or did your perlite float on you? Hard for me to tell. Plants look great none the less!!!
 

Sincerely420

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pics,thats what I been waiting for.....these are clones(same mom) in reuse soilless mix(6 months old),that I amend.clone on the left got compost tea brew(2x a week),the one on the right got CNS17 veg(2x a week)
Carry on bro!!! Weekly updates please!!! :joint:
 

headtreep

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I know my soil is teaming with life cause I pulled out some blumats to switch some things around and there were worms all in my dirt. I never put any in there that I saw. Blumats you all should get them. They will increase your yields imo because they keep the soil where it needs to be. Badass and so simple. Should have gotten those 3 years ago when I went another direction with my coco setup.
 
I have always thought those blumats look pretty cool. I use a bed of perlite under my smart pot and let the soil wick the water up from there. Cheap and effective.
 

Sincerely420

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I was checking that out over on GC! NoobwannaB! hahah!
I like the idea A LOT! but she still ends up putting water in her reserves daily????
I feel like it kinda defeats the purpose ya know?! UNLESS, you had to hit the road for a couple days!

How do you feel about it honestly? More or a prob? Less of a prob?
How often do you water them?
 

Rrog

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I've used the Blumats for a few years now. Wouldn't go back, personally.

For aeration, I start with small biochar pieces, maybe 1/4" in diameter. Then up to pumice (it floats), at 3/8" to 3/4", then lava rock (doesn't float) at 3/4" to 1 1/4". I like this a lot, especially for long term no-till. The extreme surface area of these materials is great for microbes.
 
I was checking that out over on GC! NoobwannaB! hahah!
I like the idea A LOT! but she still ends up putting water in her reserves daily????
I feel like it kinda defeats the purpose ya know?! UNLESS, you had to hit the road for a couple days!

How do you feel about it honestly? More or a prob? Less of a prob?
How often do you water them?
I water mine every 3 days. And I can go longer. I have gone 6 before, the perlite was totally dry and the pot was too, but the plant was still fine. I don't see why he waters every day honestly.

The one thing you have to do is take the pot off the perlite bed to add anything besides water and let it completely run through before you put it back on. Otherwise anaerobic bacteria grows in the perlite and it gets rank.
 
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