Monsanto cannabis yes or no? The DNA Protection Act of 2013

[burgertime2010]

I'll counter with:

You plagiarist moron. Graph warfare.....whats next an altered comic? a quote? do me a favor and see how smart you can pretend to be without Google. When I called you lazy, I didn't expect this sorry nonsense. Unless, you have something to say that isn't merely combative, you are a waste of time and space. Who are you?

 

[Doer]

Well, if you are just pretending to be mad, that's one thing...

 

[Figong]

You plagiarist moron. Graph warfare.....whats next an altered comic? a quote? do me a favor and see how smart you can pretend to be without Google. When I called you lazy, I didn't expect this sorry nonsense. Unless, you have something to say that isn't merely combative, you are a waste of time and space. Who are you?

Plagiarism would imply that I claimed I did it, which I didn't. That said, put your retarded thesaurus down as you can't even grasp simple words. Graph warfare? No, a picture to explain your position vs the rest of the discussion. When did you call me lazy? I must have missed that as I haven't posted here in a bit. Do I really have to explain the picture to you, and how it relates to the subject?

 

[burgertime2010]

Semantics Doer..you get it.

 

[Figong]

Boring.....the picture isn't yours. You are lazy. Make a statement!!!Answer a question!!!!Be creative!!!All I know about you is that you know how to copy and paste. Explain the picture, in its totality....please.....seriously.

No shit the pic isn't mine, we've already established that - please put down your crack pipe and stop repeating yourself, really. The reason I used the image was so I didn't have to try to use words to explain it as I highly doubted your comprehension level - as proven by the complete misuse of the word 'plagiarism'. As for the pic, sorry.. I can't explain it in a safe fashion for me, my views and beliefs clash with your thought processes. We'd go in a circle - rest assured.

 

[burgertime2010]

Failure to submit to his Obviously Correct, and Unavoidable Wisdom defies his Mandate from Heaven, so he re-writes history to support his Glorious Dynasty. go back a few pages, and youll see a discussion wherin he demanded answers to his misconceptions and flawed assumptions, which he then countered with a bizarre screed about "Scientifically Proven" secrets of the Dao and claims that he has special knowledge regarding the secrets of the universe, received obviously through direct communion with the Celestial Emperor and the Jade Court. you must not question his imperial mejesty, for he has tasted the sweet nectar of the Peaches Of Immortality recieved from the hand of Ma Xing Wu, the Queen Mother Of The West, he has sat at the feet of Guan Yin, and learned the true nature of things, Studied the Eternal Sciences of Medicine with the Celestial Healer Qi Bo, and communed on the nature of plants and herbs with the Celestial Farmer Shen Nong, and absorbed the wit and wisdom of the Monkey King Sun Wu Kong. You see Daoism is not a religion, and how dare anyone claim it is! Daoism is scientific fact! Its totally proven, scientifically by scientists, and he would show us these scientific proofs, but it would Blow Our Minds, and nobody wants that, it's so messy. One must be ever respectful of such a great mind, and give him face. Failing to give face is proof that your filial piety is less than perfect, and tha t's just not allowed. Oh yeah, and you cannot discuss wacky moonbat conspiracy theories, because thats racist and insensitive, nor can you question his claims of the Sovereignty of Non-Human Life. He got that one in a Revelation from Nu Wa, the Goddess of The Sky. This forum exists as a vehicle for his Perfect Thoughts, which he disseminates in tiny doses as he deems us ready. Contrary views are forbidden.

You are not ready........my way into light, in the dark here you pave. Behind this ugliness is only more. Next time use a shotgun.

 

[Doer]

Semantics Doer..you get it.

Semantics? I don't know the meaning of semantics, semantically speaking. It's OK. You believe in the Divine Spark. Or whatever you may describe as your own inner creed.

And those that believe this and want to trade ideas with these other Icons, should understand that many here don't buy it. So, if you insist on this course of portraying personal slight at anothers' view, phrases, taunts or whatever, then you are off the top of the most excellent diagram with your self proclaimed belief.

And it is OUR humble opinion that those that harbor belief may be the first to fight when the beliefs are challenged.

So, I don't think you are looking for respect. (I hope) And I really don't think honesty goes with combativeness. Yet, these self describing beliefs are very prone to that, seems to me.

If however, you are trolling; good one. Carry one.

 

[burgertime2010]

Semantics? I don't know the meaning of semantics, semantically speaking. It's OK. You believe in the Divine Spark. Or whatever you may describe as your own inner creed. And those that believe this and want to trade ideas with these other Icons, should understand that many here don't buy it. So, if you insist on this course of portraying personal slight at another's' view, phrases, taunts or whatever, then you are off the top of the most excellent diagram with your self proclaimed belief. And it is OUR humble opinion that those that harbor belief may be the first to fight when the beliefs are challenged. So, I don't think you are looking for respect. (I hope) And I really don't think honesty goes with combativeness. Yet, these self describling beliefs are very prone to that, seems to me. If however, you are trolling; good one. Carry one.

I don't understand. What is the wisdom here? I am honest and am here to learn as well as discuss. Please rephrase, I want to hear. What is more important than here now? Believe it or not I am well trolled upon.

 

[cannabineer]

Let me begin by saying my response you demanded of me. The definition I gave you is legitimate, look for yourself. Unmolested simply means not interfered with, unchanged, and/or unharmed. Your unquestioning faith is simplistic in a way when all it requires is to berate and negate. You "have no use for" further elaboration unless it is the answer you are fishing for. Your faith in the contrary is no different, by insulting me you attempt to imply my stance has no merit. However, I never said that GM is inherently evil, I spoke of caution and articulated respect for non gmo-foods. You are a reactionary plain and simple. When you preface your question as you did, you cannot feign interest in my process, you can marinate in convoluted hyperbole but the irony here is amazing. Hypocrisy is this level of dishonesty.....shame on you.

And yet you have provided zero arguable basis for your belief that you presented as fact. If all you can do is deflect the argument by characterizing the arguer, we're done.
I do not see how I have insulted you. That is a serious charge. Corroborate or retract; those are the two and only honorable choices. My opinion. cn

 

[burgertime2010]

This has gone too far, I am not interested in your ideas about my ideas. What began with respect, turned into whatever this is called and the me in reality has manners and finds this reprehensible. I apologize for my part and you are free to take it or leave it...if our paths are to cross in the future I hold no ill will and respectful dialogue is all that I would ask. I think the important aspect that we have all lost sight of is the freedom to speak the truth as we see it. The last statement is the one I see us agreeing on hopefully. Moving forward, we all could benefit from introspection, the dialog box is hard to see the complexity of the subject here and a lot was lost I am sure. Good Evening.

 

[cannabineer]

This has gone too far, I am not interested in your ideas about my ideas. What began with respect, turned into whatever this is called and the me in reality has manners and finds this reprehensible. I apologize for my part and you are free to take it or leave it...if our paths are to cross in the future I hold no ill will and respectful dialogue is all that I would ask. I think the important aspect that we have all lost sight of is the freedom to speak the truth as we see it. The last statement is the one I see us agreeing on hopefully. Moving forward, may understanding one-day prevail. -Burger.

I can live with that.

However you've claimed I insulted you.
My text is all here unedited.
Please show where or retract; that is a serious charge. Simply disengaging after you've fanned this fire is something I perceive as snide.

You have also charged me with imposing my faith. Where have I done so? As far as I know, I've restricted myself to saying "I cannot derive what you say from objective first principles", and challenged you to produce the origin and development of your ideas. My premise is "Show me." I am looking for something more tangible than something visceral, nonrational. If I have exceeded that, I'm not seeing it. Again the burden is on you to back your claim up ... or acknowledge that you did the thing of which you accuse me.

As to the bolded: then why even post the post that began all this? We all learn by being challenged, and being put on the spot to either organize our thesis or modify it. I am interested in how you arrived at your position. Since it is a position for which i haven't been able to find an argument rooted in reason, I was hoping you'd "cowboy up" and teach me. It seems you're unwilling to do that, and in the past I have learned to equate such an abdication with an unwillingness to admit not having a cogent argument. Jmo. cn

 

[Dr Kynes]

 

[cannabineer]

Nazi comparison's are insulting especially when you don't know who you are talking to. It gets to be anti-climactic when 6 others are taking what you say and bastardizing it. The above statement is not for just you. I choose to let this die. If you feel that your actions are not insulting that is your prerogative.

Then you choose the dishonor of not standing behind what you said. My opinion. cn

 

[Figong]

Is this intended?????

No he's waxing metaphors.

 

[burgertime2010]

Then you choose the dishonor of not standing behind what you said. My opinion. cn

As do you for standing behind your posting.

 

[cannabineer]

As do you for standing behind your posting.

If you can show that I am wrong, I invite that. However that would require that you post a response that is reasoned in a way that allows a reader to follow the deductive chain. cn

 

[cannabineer]

Dear Sir, have an ounce of class and just apologize for insinuating that I sounded like a Nazi. Moreover, to post such a picture on my wall is incredibly insulting. Dead relatives being trivialized does not get tolerated. Nazi assholes dissapear...you are a Nazi $#@$@. There is your chain.....hang yourself. You are wrong, when something you say/do offends.....that is it!!! No negotiation. For shame!!!

But with your talk of genetic purity an'all that, I'd be lying if I tendered an apology. You even admitted that [the way you stated the original premise] can be seen to sound like it.
Saying you sound like a Nazi is not the same as saying you are one. Thoughtful folk don't need to be reminded of the distinction.
As for offense, you are entirely responsible for choosing to be inappropriately offended. That doesn't make you the victim in this little drama.

As for class, consider your response to what started with my drawing parallels between the language you chose to use and the language used by you-know-who. Your response is to call me a Nazi $#@$@, without qualification. Oh do instruct me more on behaving with class. cn

 

[Apomixis]

Ok boys, disengage. It's done.

As for GE weed, is it more potent? Or is it a decepticon, a plant that carries with it an internal destruct code with which it shall genetically invade other herb in the vicinity....? This question needs parameters.

 

[abandonconflict]

 

[Dr Kynes]

Ok boys, disengage. It's done.

As for GE weed, is it more potent? Or is it a decepticon, a plant that carries with it an internal destruct code with which it shall genetically invade other herb in the vicinity....? This question needs parameters.

First, their is no GM weed, and will not be unless The Man drops the prohibition on the species, even industrial hemp is prohibited. sorta.

Second, Terminator Genes are not in use, they still dont work right, and nobody has been able to make a plant that produces sterile seeds save by hybridization (see Triticale for an example)

Third, domestic crops cannot infect the natrual ecosphere since domesticated plants have no natural analog with which to exchange pollen. if there were a terminator seed variety of say, tomatoes, wheat corn soya barley or whatever, since these plants do not grow unless WE plant them and tend them, they would not run rampant. only weeds like star thistle, russian thistle (tumble weeds), dandelions, kudzu and other invasive species are a problem, and the state of california would pay FAT SACKS for a terminator pollen for star thistle or spurge.

the question posed in the title and the OP is a deception.