***HELP**** Experts needed first time grower. Photos attached

RIKNSTEIN

Well-Known Member
Miracle Grow? Hmmmmm its good soil but has moisture activated feed capsules throughout the soil, the more you water it the more it feeds the soil/plant. Ive grown with it but literally had to starve the plant of water at 10 weeks when it had finished as the soil still had feed in it. If id waterd it, bang, more feed. Personally I wouldn't feed it any grow nutes at all, just bloom ones.
Yeah just seen your post aswell, MG is good stuff meant for long grows but its hard to control the feed in it, plus you cant really add your own feed.
Much to learn you still have..(in my best Yoda voice)

MG Garden Soil
N-0.15
P-0.05
K-0.10

MG Perlite
N-0.04
P-0.01
K-0.06

MG Houseplant food
N-8
P-7
K-6

MG Cactus food
N-2
P-7
K-7

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Dr Kynes

Well-Known Member
Much to learn you still have..

MG Garden Soil
N-0.15
P-0.05
K-0.10

MG Perlite
N-0.04
P-0.01
K-0.06

MG Houseplant food
N-8
P-7
K-6

MG Cactus food
N-2
P-7
K-7

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those plants look sexy!

note however, in different regions, different countries and different climates MG products may not always have the same ratios, particularly in their soil products, since they only note what nutrients they add, and do not count those which occur naturally or in the feed material. if your MG compost plant gets most of it's feedstock from golf courses or ag waste you can get MUCH higher nitrogen levels (like i do) than what the sack claims, and if your plant sources lots of chicken litter, your potassium and phosphorus levels will be much higher, as well as a tendency for excess urea (raw piss) which increases Nitrogen as it breaks down over time. if your area has shitloads of golf courses, expect high fertilizer levels all around, and if youre close to a sawmill, expect some acidity from tannins.

mind your plants and watch what they will tell you.
 

colonuggs

Well-Known Member
thats a nasty looking growing medium in your first photos on page 1...is that bark in it???

Try using sunshine mix or promix next time.
 

Ninjabowler

Well-Known Member
Hi Guys first time grower and poster.

My Knowledge this far: I have done A LOT of reading on this and many other forums from common mistakes to all the different types of deficiencies your plant can have.

About this grow: I have originally made the mistake of not feeding my plants any nutrients or measuring the PH.
Growth was then stunted at week 3 for about a week and a half. I corrected the PH and fixed my Nitrogen deficiency and now 1 plant is struggling.
It has shown signs of improvement and is getting better each and every day but it is no where near its sisters.

Info:
Growing: Nirvana Sky Super Auto, Big Band Feminised, Northern Lights Feminised
Age: 5+ weeks
Nutrients: Sea weed emulsion
Water Cycle: Every 3-5days or when dry
Set up: Indoor with lights and fan. They are moved out side on sunny days
Regulation: Temp and Ph levels are regulated

My question: What have I done to the Nirvana sky? its smaller then the others and I have looked up other grows and they look nothing like my plant.
All the plants are on the mend and showing 500% improvement will this be fixed with time if I keep feeing them correctly and testing the PH?

I have supplied photos of all my plants I am interested in your opinions and what I can do to make this a grate grow.
Thank you.



Northern Lights
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Big Band
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Nirvana Sky Super Auto
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ya, probably another watering issue. Really common. When theyre in need of water the container will feel light when you pick it up. You may also be having water issues because you dont have any pearlite or other material to aid in drainage. Looks like it would hold quite a bit of moisture in those wood chunks. Pic four shows some downward curling. Thats from over feeding. While theyre still small enough to remove easily id transplant into some good organic blend like fox farm ocean forest. Theres enough nutrients in the soil that you dont have to feed for almost a month and then in real small doses. I dont recomend that new growers try coco or promix cause they need to be tended to more. Organic doesnt need anything but water :):):) dry it out and back off the nutes. Id also get some good synthetic fertz, ont mess around with organic nutes. :):):) lookin ok bro,mhang in there :):):)
 

RIKNSTEIN

Well-Known Member
those plants look sexy!

note however, in different regions, different countries and different climates MG products may not always have the same ratios, particularly in their soil products, since they only note what nutrients they add, and do not count those which occur naturally or in the feed material. if your MG compost plant gets most of it's feedstock from golf courses or ag waste you can get MUCH higher nitrogen levels (like i do) than what the sack claims, and if your plant sources lots of chicken litter, your potassium and phosphorus levels will be much higher, as well as a tendency for excess urea (raw piss) which increases Nitrogen as it breaks down over time. if your area has shitloads of golf courses, expect high fertilizer levels all around, and if youre close to a sawmill, expect some acidity from tannins.

mind your plants and watch what they will tell you.
thats a nasty looking growing medium in your first photos on page 1...is that bark in it???

Try using sunshine mix or promix next time.
Thank you Dr Kynes, that means alot to a n00b here on my first grow, the other 4 weren't as lucky..lol..I've had problems from nute burn, to nute def, bad PH, and fuckin spider mites...but I think I have a good idea now, still alot to learn, but have the basic for a good BIG grow...lol

And colonuggs, that's my MG Garden Soil, and HE was liking it till HE started showing balls...lol...I don't have a "shop" that sells those types of soil, or good nutes for that matter. I'd have to order on the net and have it delivered...ahh..not a good idea where I live..so I make do with what I have, and I've learned to adjust the soil they're in...
 

fir3dragon

Well-Known Member
Thank you Dr Kynes, that means alot to a n00b here on my first grow, the other 4 weren't as lucky..lol..I've had problems from nute burn, to nute def, bad PH, and fuckin spider mites...but I think I have a good idea now, still alot to learn, but have the basic for a good BIG grow...lol

And colonuggs, that's my MG Garden Soil, and HE was liking it till HE started showing balls...lol...I don't have a "shop" that sells those types of soil, or good nutes for that matter. I'd have to order on the net and have it delivered...ahh..not a good idea where I live..so I make do with what I have, and I've learned to adjust the soil they're in...
My local lowes sells promix
 

RIKNSTEIN

Well-Known Member
My local lowes sells promix
Mine sells Scotts...lol..You have to order if you want anything else..our Lowes is about the size of my 2 car garage..they do have a nice lumber yard though...lmao..unless I want to drive for about 2 hours to get into the city...which is always an option.
 

fir3dragon

Well-Known Member
Mine sells Scotts...lol..You have to order if you want anything else..our Lowes is about the size of my 2 car garage..they do have a nice lumber yard though...lmao..unless I want to drive for about 2 hours to get into the city...which is always an option.

Considering shipping soil is 20+ it's the option
 

colonuggs

Well-Known Member
walmart in some states carry sunshine...also look at animal feed stores (for livestock) they carry it too
 

redtoro

Member
Ok guys so here is the update.

Today I went and brought some MG Garden choice:
http://www.scottsaustralia.com.au/miracle-gro/miracle-gro-organic-choice/organic-choice-garden-compost/

On first look it still looked very wood chippy it has sticks and crap in there.
I had a choice of about 40+ different potting mixes how ever apparently all of them contain wood chips on some level.

I couldn't find any perlight to mix in so its just the potting mix.

Transplanting The transplanting didn't go to plan I didn't water them for a few days so the soil was getting dryish still moist.
My plant that looks sickish had next to No Roots! So that was an easy transplant.

Then I went on to my 2 healthy babys and they had a lot off roots but when the dirt fell away it too most of the roots with it.
Now the stalks are having a hard time sitting up by them selves.
I have supported them with compressing dirt at the base of the stem.

I also changed to larger pots.

Have I done the right thing here?

:s

Thanks guys
 

fir3dragon

Well-Known Member
Ok guys so here is the update.

Today I went and brought some MG Garden choice:
http://www.scottsaustralia.com.au/miracle-gro/miracle-gro-organic-choice/organic-choice-garden-compost/

On first look it still looked very wood chippy it has sticks and crap in there.
I had a choice of about 40+ different potting mixes how ever apparently all of them contain wood chips on some level.

I couldn't find any perlight to mix in so its just the potting mix.

Transplanting The transplanting didn't go to plan I didn't water them for a few days so the soil was getting dryish still moist.
My plant that looks sickish had next to No Roots! So that was an easy transplant.

Then I went on to my 2 healthy babys and they had a lot off roots but when the dirt fell away it too most of the roots with it.
Now the stalks are having a hard time sitting up by them selves.
I have supported them with compressing dirt at the base of the stem.

I also changed to larger pots.

Have I done the right thing here?

:s

Thanks guys
your soil needs some type of airation like perlite.. if not eventually its gonna compact from watering and suffocate your roots.
 

redtoro

Member
Will my broken roots catch over the next couple of days and my plans start growing again? all growth has stopped at the moment
 
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