And the South shall rise again

[beardo]

and you remind me of the paulbot conspiracy crackpots we saw for so long until rawn pawl crawled backed into his turtle tunnel.

too deluded to accept facts, and thus fairly untrollable.

at least we both agree that doer is retarded.

Ron Paul 2016 and beyond...

 

[Dr Kynes]

you are a sad, stupid fuck.

OH! I Am Stung!

I am Undone!

farewell sweet mortal coil, i leave thee for a better place, laid low by the witty ripostes and cutting rejoinders of bucky, the swashbuckling hero of his own farce.

lo! i would that i could have... * cough cough*

... once more tasted my lover's sweet lips... *cough*

Forsooth! i must needs expire. *deathrattle*

*morbid tumescence*

*decomposition*

 

[Doer]

The worms crawl in the worms crawl out
the worms play Pinochle on your snout

(all named....BUCKY!!!!)

 

[Doer]

God exists
Maybe not in your religions and dogmas and books
but God exists and God is great, Gods work is all around you and God is great.

You seem quite sure. But, I can't take your word for it.

 

[Harrekin]

You see quite sure. But, I can't take your word for it.

I see Beardo never stopped trolling.

He's truely the King of Trolls.

 

[beardo]

I see Beardo never stopped trolling.

He's truely the King of Trolls.

I was being serious, Look at all of Gods great creations
It is irrefutable proof, the evidence is in the waves of the ocean and the wind in the air and the ants on the ground and birds in the sky, Look at a woman and the vagina one of his greatest creations- It's the center of the universe, the meaning of life, the start and finish are one in the same, the circle of life.

 

[Doer]

In my view, it is the opposite. The universe created us. We created God, to thank the Universe. But, we WANT God to be so much more. We make up these attribution like the wind can't blow without God.

But, it obviously does.

 

[beardo]

In my view, it is the opposite. The universe created us. We created God, to thank the Universe. But, we WANT God to be so much more. We make up these attribution like the wind can't blow without God.

But, it obviously does.

Where did the universe come from? What is the universe? What is the wind? where does it come from?
It is God

 

[cannabineer]

Gestation is usually counted by a doctor using size and development progress using an ultrasound.

They usually don't count the weeks before implantation.

I beg to differ. Fertilization is 2w and 1d, which is in week 3. Implantation is later even. cn

http://www.babymed.com/pregnancy-calendar-and-calculator-week-by-week

 

[Harrekin]

I beg to differ. Fertilization is 2w and 1d, which is in week 3. Implantation is later even. cn

http://www.babymed.com/pregnancy-calendar-and-calculator-week-by-week

Dude, that's not how doctors count it

You don't even count as pregnant until implantation.

 

[cannabineer]

Dude, that's not how doctors count it

You don't even count as pregnant until implantation.

The doctors who tended both my ex's pregnancies used just that count. You can't simply tell me "it isn't so" without counterevidence. Link maybe?

And the reason I'm making a big deal out of it is that if our doctors use that handicapped count, it'll end up in law ... effectively turning a twelve-week window into one of six or seven. Because most women don't know they're pregnant until week six or later by the count format I linked. cn

 

[cannabineer]

This is a confusion. There is a difference between making abortion illegal - which was done with the results being that there were still over half a million "illegal" abortions a year and many more women died - and the new concept of "personhood"


If you want to talk about personhood, then it is not enough to simply hang around waiting for someone to report a crime. The state is obligated to detect and prosecute anyone who is suspect of taking a human life. If we are talking about personhood then indeed each miscarriage would need to be ajudicated.

in the case of personhood rape makes no difference because personhood is defined as a fertilized egg being a person with a full complement of constitutional rights. Buck's questions are sound but only if he is talking about personhood.


By the way, the cost of personhood in America would be according to my estimates about 3/4 trillion a year. The population of unwanted children would increase by about a million children a year for the first 18 to 21 years before leveling off at a permanent state supported class of people that numbered roughly 20 million.

I didn't realize the term "personhood" had been so completely shanghaied. Has it truly become synonymous with the doctrine of zygote = person? cn

 

[Harrekin]

The doctors who tended both my ex's pregnancies used just that count. You can't simply tell me "it isn't so" without counterevidence. Link maybe?

And the reason I'm making a big deal out of it is that if our doctors use that handicapped count, it'll end up in law ... effectively turning a twelve-week window into one of six or seven. Because most women don't know they're pregnant until week six or later by the count format I linked. cn

My count is linked developmentally to the foetus.

Even so, is 6 or 7 weeks not enough time to choose?

And isn't "prevention" vastly better than "cure" anyways?

We should teach responsibility first (wrap it before you tap it), then youve the morning after pill and still my way would provide a small yet reasonable window for "errors", unless you simply believe women should get to "choose" at any point during the 40 total weeks?

Should abortion simply be considered a contraceptive?

Im pro-choice not pro-"fully developed foetus killing".

 

[Doer]

Where did the universe come from? What is the universe? What is the wind? where does it come from?
It is God

Where ever the Universe came from? It came from somewhere, I guess. It wasn't magically created necessarily. There are many theories on that. Magically created, is just one of them. Making universes requires vast and unimaginably forces, is all. Our bio-static balance of the thin skin of our Earth, requires shuffling vast googo-joules of energy every day. Beyond our understanding. We are nothing to it.

You call that God. I don't. When the argument is how can it not be God, my answer always is....Say What? Human logic applied to forces beyond understanding.

 

[cannabineer]

My count is linked developmentally to the foetus.

Even so, is 6 or 7 weeks not enough time to choose?

And isn't "prevention" vastly better than "cure" anyways?

We should teach responsibility first (wrap it before you tap it), then youve the morning after pill and still my way would provide a small yet reasonable window for "errors", unless you simply believe women should get to "choose" at any point during the 40 total weeks?

Should abortion simply be considered a contraceptive?

Im pro-choice not pro-"fully developed foetus killing".

Perhaps you don't remember my current stance on the issue.
No; I don't countenance late-term abortions. To me at this time that means the third trimester, when the fetus has a chance of surviving ex utero.

I do of course believe that prevention is way better than the cure, but isn't that a distraction since we're already discussing abortion? It's off the point.

The "abortion as contraception" issue is also distinct imo.

And yes; with the fact that some women need to skip two entire periods before they inkle that they're pregnant ... I don't think twelve weeks by the count format i posted is long enough.

Will you honor my request and show me that the count format I linked and you're ridiculing is minority or nonstandard among the pros? cn

 

[beardo]

Where ever the Universe came from? It came from somewhere, I guess. It wasn't magically created necessarily. There are many theories on that. Magically created, is just one of them. Making universes requires vast and unimaginably forces, is all. Our bio-static balance of the thin skin of our Earth, requires shuffling vast googo-joules of energy every day. Beyond our understanding. We are nothing to it.

You call that God. I don't. When the argument is how can it not be God, my answer always is....Say What? Human logic applied to forces beyond understanding.

This "magic" and "unimaginable force" you speak of is God
God doesn't need your recognition or approval or belief but to deny it is doing yourself a disservice recognize and appreciate the greatness of God, It is empowering and humbling, to fail to do so is denying yourself a great joy and inner peace.
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[Doer]

Well, don't get all preachy. That's the basic problem.

I have the Peace of the inner Knowledge of Self. I practice inner Joy as an art form Joy of Self unencumbered by the worry of what "gave" me joy and all that. Funny I could call that Joy itself God, but you would not.

You will say God gave that to me. I say, trust me. There is no such thing. It is you, my friend and your unbridled experience of Joy that matters to me without God in the way. In this thoughtless state of Joy, God is a thought. We thought of it, in the experience of inner Joy.

No you insist, IT thought of us. I get it. I can argue both sides and have come to one conclusion.

Now. That's it. All there is, all we need.

 

[Harrekin]

Perhaps you don't remember my current stance on the issue.
No; I don't countenance late-term abortions. To me at this time that means the third trimester, when the fetus has a chance of surviving ex utero.

I do of course believe that prevention is way better than the cure, but isn't that a distraction since we're already discussing abortion? It's off the point.

The "abortion as contraception" issue is also distinct imo.

And yes; with the fact that some women need to skip two entire periods before they inkle that they're pregnant ... I don't think twelve weeks by the count format i posted is long enough.

Will you honor my request and show me that the count format I linked and you're ridiculing is minority or nonstandard among the pros? cn

I'll answer this tomorrow, I tried to function the Great Googly Moogly but as you can probably understand (from stereotype) that its Sat night in Ireland...I'll just abuse people for now, involves lower brain functions (which are more intact).

 

[dolamic]

Don't worry we're not going to rise far.... it will be going to the courts and hopefully be straightened out. Emphasize hopefully. The religious have too much influence in this state. I feel like the only atheist in Arkansas at times. We just got a lottery like five years ago. My county is still a dry county for fuck sake.

So as an Atheist you agree with abortions into the 3rd trimester? I'm just curious when it is
considered murder in your eyes. A baby is a baby, I say ban all abortions outright. Freedoms
carry only so much weight on a piece of paper written 300+ years ago. If we have the Bill of
Rights and the Constitution, why are there SO many amendments to the Constitution? It is
constantly being re-written.

State lotteries and illegal alcohol makes your state backwards? And you said nothing about
Clinton for 8 years? Or maybe I'm just beating a dead horse...

Suprisingly, we teach evolution in our schools! But for some reason people still stick to blind faith saying "well, it is only a theory". Yeah kind of like that theory of gravity and the germ theory of disease., right? Government should just remove themselves from the issue completely. It is not their department. But that will never happen. Liberty is dying and all we are being left with is Orwell's 1984. This isn't suprising to me. We have to be number one in everything ridiculous. Worst schools, teen preggos, meth usage (though Mississippi and Alabama are stiff competition). Im just glad honey boo boo isn't from here. So, did you have any valuable comments on this debacle? Or you just doing the usual?

Blind faith, like believing a Scientist when he tells you the Earth is 21908347918374123
bazillion years old? Please, please tell me that you can go outside to your backyard,
dig up the dirt and tell me how old it is....don't worry, I'll wait. Tell me about blind faith....

Theory of evolution, or believing a book that was written 2000 years ago. Why couldn't
creation and the big bang have been the same thing? Maybe people interpreted things
differently back then, since there were no Scientists around that I know of.
Plus it was written in a different language, and throughout the years there have been
many interpretations of it. I don't put my faith in a book or in a church, and I'm not an
Atheist or Agnostic. I'm a Christian because that is MY belief. I believe in Jesus, and I
don't have to hang my head when I say it anymore. I used to think it was cool to buck
the mainstream and say I was a Satanist, or Wiccan, because I liked getting rises out
of people. Now I do what makes me feel good and happy, fuck what other people think.

You think we're in 1984? We don't have the cameras that England has, or the tyranny
and communism that North Korea and Cuba have. Communism is great as an idea...
Talk to some people from overseas, and then breathe easy because we have it damn
good in the USA. I'm not a liberal, I'm not an uptight NRA slangin' motherfucker either, but
I do believe this is the best country to live in. Yeah we may have some ghettos, and
rednecks, and retards, but I dare say we have the best of the best out of all the countries
in the world. My family line covers all of Europe; Irish, Dutch, German, Russian, Scotch,
French, Italian and I even have some ties from Asia and Africa. I'm a mutt, my families
came here because they were through with the hypocrisy and iron fists of their home lands.
They wanted a place they belonged to, to practice their religions freely, make money
honestly, and live happily. If you can't see that as the American Dream, there are plenty
of other countries out there for you with better schools, without meth, without religion,
without Honey Boo-Boo and I'm sure you would fit right in with the rest of the Atheists.

Though I do admit, Honey Boo-Boo is a travesty to the South and to the entire country.
I blame the TV corporations for making so many damned reality shows, it's not our fault
they don't know what pretty, smart or class means in Georgia.

 

[Harrekin]

So as an Atheist you agree with abortions into the 3rd trimester? I'm just curious when it is
considered murder in your eyes. A baby is a baby, I say ban all abortions outright. Freedoms
carry only so much weight on a piece of paper written 300+ years ago. If we have the Bill of
Rights and the Constitution, why are there SO many amendments to the Constitution? It is
constantly being re-written.

State lotteries and illegal alcohol makes your state backwards? And you said nothing about
Clinton for 8 years? Or maybe I'm just beating a dead horse...



Blind faith, like believing a Scientist when he tells you the Earth is 21908347918374123
bazillion years old? Please, please tell me that you can go outside to your backyard,
dig up the dirt and tell me how old it is....don't worry, I'll wait. Tell me about blind faith....

Theory of evolution, or believing a book that was written 2000 years ago. Why couldn't
creation and the big bang have been the same thing? Maybe people interpreted things
differently back then, since there were no Scientists around that I know of.
Plus it was written in a different language, and throughout the years there have been
many interpretations of it. I don't put my faith in a book or in a church, and I'm not an
Atheist or Agnostic. I'm a Christian because that is MY belief. I believe in Jesus, and I
don't have to hang my head when I say it anymore. I used to think it was cool to buck
the mainstream and say I was a Satanist, or Wiccan, because I liked getting rises out
of people. Now I do what makes me feel good and happy, fuck what other people think.

You think we're in 1984? We don't have the cameras that England has, or the tyranny
and communism that North Korea and Cuba have. Communism is great as an idea...
Talk to some people from overseas, and then breathe easy because we have it damn
good in the USA. I'm not a liberal, I'm not an uptight NRA slangin' motherfucker either, but
I do believe this is the best country to live in. Yeah we may have some ghettos, and
rednecks, and retards, but I dare say we have the best of the best out of all the countries
in the world. My family line covers all of Europe; Irish, Dutch, German, Russian, Scotch,
French, Italian and I even have some ties from Asia and Africa. I'm a mutt, my families
came here because they were through with the hypocrisy and iron fists of their home lands.
They wanted a place they belonged to, to practice their religions freely, make money
honestly, and live happily. If you can't see that as the American Dream, there are plenty
of other countries out there for you with better schools, without meth, without religion,
without Honey Boo-Boo and I'm sure you would fit right in with the rest of the Atheists.

Though I do admit, Honey Boo-Boo is a travesty to the South and to the entire country.
I blame the TV corporations for making so many damned reality shows, it's not our fault
they don't know what pretty, smart or class means in Georgia.

You seem angry.

Read Matthew 5:44.

EDIT: You don't have cameras in the US? But Iv seen so many pictures...