Rawn Pawl is not a libertarian. He is a fascist vanguard.

lifegoesonbrah

lifegoesonbrah

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What kind of person comes to a politics forum and refuses to share their political philosophy? You are just here to try to sound intelligent by copying Chomsky and using words like 'vanguard' to attack everyone elses beliefs when you have none of your own. You are the standard OWS dbag, walking around complaining about everything with no sound solutions of your own. Any person that studies politics and spends this much time in a politics forum should have an idea of wtf they believe. You just deflect and say that this thread isn't about your philosophy, when you have a video of your hero "libertatian" socialist in the OP. Chomsky claims that the founders were anti-capitalist, well prove it. You remind me of that show hoarders, your like one of those people that sit around and complain about how messy there house is then just attack peoples suggestions on how it should be cleaned.

If I make a thread about "libertarian" socialism you think you can manage to explain the philosophy without posting videos of your hero to deflect for you?
 
abandonconflict

abandonconflict

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lifegoesonbrah said:
Chomsky claims that the founders were anti-capitalist, well prove it.
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Only thing you said worth replying to. Actually Chomsky said Jefferson was anticapitalist.

"I hope we shall crush in its birth the aristocracy of our monied corporations which dare already to challenge our government to a trial by strength, and bid defiance to the laws of our country." ~Thomas Jefferson
 
lifegoesonbrah

lifegoesonbrah

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abandonconflict said:
Only thing you said worth replying to. Actually Chomsky said Jefferson was anticapitalist.

"I hope we shall crush in its birth the aristocracy of our monied corporations which dare already to challenge our government to a trial by strength, and bid defiance to the laws of our country." ~Thomas Jefferson
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thats anti corporatism, nice try though.
 
abandonconflict

abandonconflict

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"The Congress shall have Power To lay and collect Taxes, Duties, Imposts and Excises, to pay the Debts and provide for the common Defence and general Welfare of the United States" ~Article 1 Section 8 of the US constitution
 
lifegoesonbrah

lifegoesonbrah

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abandonconflict said:
"The Congress shall have Power To lay and collect Taxes, Duties, Imposts and Excises, to pay the Debts and provide for the common Defence and general Welfare of the United States" ~Article 1 Section 8 of the US constitution
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You forgot the part where the constitution lists the exact powers given to congress.

Nice try, though.
 
abandonconflict

abandonconflict

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lifegoesonbrah said:
How?

capitalism is not equal to corporations taking over the government. That is caused by a controlled economy.
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Capitalism requires a state in order to protect property. Corporatism follows. The state is the watchdog for corporations. Capitalism is not the cure for this. The state is a symptom of capitalism. You're the statist. To say that corporatism results from government meddling in economy is non sequitur. Government results from private ownership of what is rightfully the heritage of all.
 
lifegoesonbrah

lifegoesonbrah

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abandonconflict said:
Capitalism requires a state in order to protect property. Corporatism follows. The state is the watchdog for corporations. Capitalism is not the cure for this. The state is a symptom of capitalism. You're the statist. To say that corporatism results from government meddling in economy is non sequitur. Government results from private ownership of what is rightfully the heritage of all.
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How can corporations take over a government in a purely free market?
 
Dr Kynes

Dr Kynes

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abandonconflict said:
Hint: Governments exist to protect private ownership.
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no they do not.

the premise is faulty.

governments exist to protect sovereignty. they always have and always will.

you are a petulant child, with no understanding of the issues you scream about, but you sure do want a pokemon. not a pokemon card, a real live pokemon, and youll scream till you get one.
 
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