Fan Leafs. Blockers of Light Or Energy Producers???

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Alexander Supertramp

Alexander Supertramp

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I sure do miss my little brother right now. If he where still with us he would be having a field day with a few of you. Growing plants, any type, made him happier than most anything. He was well educated, in the field and lecture hall. And the internet bullshit pissed him off to no end. I will say it again. The only thing thats going to be proven here is what a tough, resilient plant cannabis is no matter how special and fragile these forums seem too make it.


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Seems to fit him and whats being discussed around here....
 
Kite High

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akula said:
I know my grammar sucks ass, that's why I dont comment on others grammar. :shock:
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well there are always grammar spammers..I really meant what I said in a complimentary way...you use your brain well...a very uncommon practice here it appears
 
Kite High

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Alexander Supertramp said:
I sure do miss my little brother right now. If he where still with us he would be having a field day with a few of you. Growing plants, any type, made him happier than most anything. He was well educated, in the field and lecture hall. And the internet bullshit pissed him off to no end. I will say it again. The only thing thats going to be proven here is what a tough, resilient plant cannabis is no matter how special and fragile these forums seem too make it.


[video=youtube;EsMbLO9QW4Y]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=EsMbLO9QW4Y[/video]

Seems to fit him and whats being discussed around here....
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Like you too...u smart too
 
Dank Raptor

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about those leaves then.... IMG_6998.jpg Not my grow but defoliation works. Give em time to recover. Dont just go and cut your leaves during your flower cycle. This has to be done in veg a week before. When I first started I thought this was a dumb idea but now I understand.
 
Izoc666

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Uncle Ben said:
ThaiTanic as marked from The Flying Dutchmen, a well respected breeder. They used one of my photos on their cover page. Think it was the one showing the cola below. This is one of the few seedbanks I would trust if I was to order beans again. For example, their O. Haze is about as true to form as real genetics get, not some mutt that folks attach the Haze buzzword to in order to make a sale. Their Haze is the real thing from Sam the Skunkman's collected genetics 30 or so years ago and is a pure sativa hybrid. No indica.

Also shown is some of the best pot I've ever grown and smoked. It was a cross I did between a fine male Peak19 (Sagamartha) and beautiful original C99 from the Bros. Grimm. It is photo #3 in the previous post and if memory serves me correct I got around 8 oz off that plant.

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Been doing second harvests for many years. Here's some of the TT secondary harvest.

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Happy gardening tambien!
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that was very lovely plants ! thanks for explaining about this strain and history. Ill take a look at flying dutchmen's O Haze. I appreciate it.
 
Uncle Ben

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Izoc666 said:
that was very lovely plants ! thanks for explaining about this strain and history. Ill take a look at flying dutchmen's O Haze. I appreciate it.
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O. Haze is not for the faint of heart, definately belongs outdoors although I have grown it indoors. Since it takes forever to veg, sex and flower, if you're the impatient type, have a problem retaining leaves and don't fully understand the art of pruning/training, don't even think about it.

Good luck,
UB
 
Uncle Ben

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Alexander Supertramp said:
I sure do miss my little brother right now. If he where still with us he would be having a field day with a few of you. Growing plants, any type, made him happier than most anything. He was well educated, in the field and lecture hall. And the internet bullshit pissed him off to no end. I will say it again. The only thing thats going to be proven here is what a tough, resilient plant cannabis is no matter how special and fragile these forums seem too make it.

Seems to fit him and whats being discussed around here....
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Sorry about your loss!

Also, excellent words of wisdom. Cannabis is indeed tough and like many kids, turns out well in spite of the errors of their caregivers/parents, not because of them.

UB
 
Bud Brewer

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I started my own thread on these two lovely ladies called Outdoor came Indoor and got stripped naked repeatedly In advanced forum from start to finish which should be in a couple of weeks then the bottom under developed bud will go from 10.5 hours light back to 14 hours that I started them in flower with.

I'm reposting this from the other defoliation thread because it is relivent and I'm lazy.

I've been asking for trouble as soon as I announced that I defoliated these beautiful lades repeatedly to a miraculous gigantic grow.

You think I'd have double the bud if it always had all its leaves you are wrong the reason is the defoliation training forcing out those branches to refoliate the lost plant mass repeatedly making for a dense two foot plant before I allowed them to refoliate before flower not because of some mutant bag seed.
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My buddy grew these from bag seed In hydro with a 1000 watt mh with a small parabolic vertical like me and had three plants that equal one of mine defoliation made the difference along with my unique 3' x 6' foot shield, my homemade organics, longer veg and 18 gallon totes with homemade soil all contributed to a nice crop.

I am defoliating again today to get light to the shaded bud in the canopy because those front pictures can't show you the two and a half feet deep interior bud that is near dark despite me removing more than half of the large leaves a 21 days flower.
 
Kite High

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Bud Brewer said:
I started my own thread on these two lovely ladies called Outdoor came Indoor and got stripped naked repeatedly In advanced forum from start to finish which should be in a couple of weeks then the bottom under developed bud will go from 10.5 hours light back to 14 hours that I started them in flower with.

I'm reposting this from the other defoliation thread because it is relivent and I'm lazy.

I've been asking for trouble as soon as I announced that I defoliated these beautiful lades repeatedly to a miraculous gigantic grow.

You think I'd have double the bud if it always had all its leaves you are wrong the reason is the defoliation training forcing out those branches to refoliate the lost plant mass repeatedly making for a dense two foot plant before I allowed them to refoliate before flower not because of some mutant bag seed.
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My buddy grew these from bag seed In hydro with a 1000 watt mh with a small parabolic vertical like me and had three plants that equal one of mine defoliation made the difference along with my unique 3' x 6' foot shield, my homemade organics, longer veg and 18 gallon totes with homemade soil all contributed to a nice crop.

I am defoliating again today to get light to the shaded bud in the canopy because those front pictures can't show you the two and a half feet deep interior bud that is near dark despite me removing more than half of the large leaves a 21 days flower.
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It is puzzling me greatly...if you have such light power and a well thought out room as you do, why defoliate? why not just extend the veg time anyway? that is what is producing your yields.

See I like that I top once and and let the plant do its thing. I dont wanna work on them I want to get high A long veg will yield considerably more and I have found that large old plants are much morepotent than young ones. I know most do it this due t space limitations. But this veg for a month crap is what the commercial dudes do. All bout da money.

See when I try a new strain I plant 2 in my closet 12/12 from seed. The ones that impress me I then run with a 2-3 month veg with co2 supplementation. Has never failed ...the trees have always been more potent. Also I do not clone as I run one strain at a time and from seed the different phenotypes offer a little variety.I really try my best to pick good genetics...hence the 12/12 from seed test runs. Also I have not had a plant that weouldn't be a keeper.

And man I have grown some seeds and some friends have as well from Mexican brick swag and it was some damned good shit. See IMO all these "breeders" have done is fuck up the weed with tHE INDICA GO TO BED MAKE YOU INTO BEAVIS AND BUTTHEAD CRAP. I do not see that is better. Hell theres so many pollen chucking ass hat s now...like subfool...that they should be shot calling that shit strains. Pheno hell. Shit I have more stability in my lil crosses I do for myself
 
cannawizard

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Doesn't "bag seed" just mean-- unknown strain: mystery genetics.. So it could possibly be from a well-known strain, but since we don't know, its labeled "bag seed"..

And the only reason Mexican brick scwhagg sucks, is cause whoever grew it, didn't know WTF they were doing.. (I've had great Mexi Sativas before, mind blowing stuff... don't blame the genetics because of poor growing practices)

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Uncle Ben

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Kite High said:
It is puzzling me greatly...if you have such light power and a well thought out room as you do, why defoliate? why not just extend the veg time anyway?
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He is extending the veg time. The plant has to recover from the stress and will try to replace that which is lost. In the meantime you've also set back root production. He did a great job (which doesn't necessarily mean his success was due to stripping the plant) but did not run a control group under exact conditions so the jury's still out. In bonafide field studies, not only is every condition replicated but it's done 3 times to verify the conclusion of the strictly controlled test.

And man I have grown some seeds and some friends have as well from Mexican brick swag and it was some damned good shit. See IMO all these "breeders" have done is fuck up the weed with tHE INDICA GO TO BED MAKE YOU INTO BEAVIS AND BUTTHEAD CRAP. I do not see that is better. Hell theres so many pollen chucking ass hat s now...like subfool...that they should be shot calling that shit strains. Pheno hell. Shit I have more stability in my lil crosses I do for myself
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Seed sales is part of the cannabis industry racket. 20 years ago there was a handful of "breeders", seedbanks. Now there's hundreds and it's the same old furniture just moved around the room with a new name. Mel Frank even said many years ago in his guide that Mexican can be the best weed you've ever smoked and I agree although it can take a while, like late November outdoors. Problem with Mex just like other equatorial strains is it tends to go hermie but it's easy to grow and the high is excellent especially if you find the old stuff which doesn't have indica genes. I have a collection of Mexican seeds from a friend who has been collecting only the best bagseed over decades.

The plant that BB grew looks Mexican to me. Fat, Xmas tree shaped, airy buds. He's gonna have some great smoke.

Tio
 
Uncle Ben

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cannawizard said:
And the only reason Mexican brick scwhagg sucks, is cause whoever grew it, didn't know WTF they were doing.. (I've had great Mexi Sativas before, mind blowing stuff... don't blame the genetics because of poor growing practices)

.2s
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It's sometimes crap because of the way its handled and transported. The peons who process it chop the plants, dry it upright in some open roofed hacienda under a tropical sun, strip the plants and then using a compactor pack the seeded bud into 2 kilo bundles wrapped in plastic wrap. All the enemies of THC are there - heat, light, air, mechanical damage. Surprisingly, I've smoked a lot of Mexican bag weed that would knock your socks off, almost like being on a LSD trip. Then again, I live close to the border where it's fresh and not cut with oregano. I have relatives over 50 who still buy and smoke Mexican and most is really good stuff.

Tio Bendejo
 
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