Fan Leafs. Blockers of Light Or Energy Producers???

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Uncle Ben said:
PJ Diaz said:
I dunno I still experience that issue with heavy fan leaves under 600w hps. That guy who says the light "passes through the leaf" is living in a dream world.
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You are wrong again, he is correct. R and FR light transmit through leaf tissue.
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I can't speak for the science behind it, and it is possible I'm incorrect. I can only speak for real world experience on this issue. All I know for sure is that it was clear that a fan leaf on top of another fan leaf definitely caused the leaf on the bottom to be yellow only in the area that top top leaf shaded the bottom one. It even had the serated edge outline. Everything else except that shaded spot was very green. Explain that please.
 
PJ Diaz said:
I can't speak for the science behind it, and it is possible I'm incorrect. I can only speak for real world experience on this issue. All I know for sure is that it was clear that a fan leaf on top of another fan leaf definitely caused the leaf on the bottom to be yellow only in the area that top top leaf shaded the bottom one. It even had the serated edge outline. Everything else except that shaded spot was very green. Explain that please.
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The leaves at the top should only be yellow due to an N def...right??
 
PJ Diaz said:
I can't speak for the science behind it, and it is possible I'm incorrect. I can only speak for real world experience on this issue. All I know for sure is that it was clear that a fan leaf on top of another fan leaf definitely caused the leaf on the bottom to be yellow only in the area that top top leaf shaded the bottom one. It even had the serated edge outline. Everything else except that shaded spot was very green. Explain that please.
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You did not use Brawndo correctly and/or overdosed on concentrated Eye of Newt.
 
Uncle Ben said:
PJ Diaz said:
I can't speak for the science behind it, and it is possible I'm incorrect. I can only speak for real world experience on this issue. All I know for sure is that it was clear that a fan leaf on top of another fan leaf definitely caused the leaf on the bottom to be yellow only in the area that top top leaf shaded the bottom one. It even had the serated edge outline. Everything else except that shaded spot was very green. Explain that please.
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You did not use Brawndo correctly and/or overdosed on concentrated Eye of Newt.
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But of course, why didn't I think of that? Do you think I should use more toe of frog, or maybe add tongue of dog?
 
Uncle Ben said:
You did not use Brawndo correctly and/or overdosed on concentrated Eye of Newt.
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easy there, fellow uncle b.

i have noticed before that a leaf on top of another leaf can cause that very localized discoloration, and i am very careful to measure my brawndo and do the correct sequence of moondances.

surely an expert like you can explain this one simply.
 
UncleBuck said:
Uncle Ben said:
You did not use Brawndo correctly and/or overdosed on concentrated Eye of Newt.
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easy there, fellow uncle b.

i have noticed before that a leaf on top of another leaf can cause that very localized discoloration, and i am very careful to measure my brawndo and do the correct sequence of moondances.

surely an expert like you can explain this one simply.
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No he can't. That sort of explanation would cause his world to quickly come crashing down all around him.
 
This thread was civil for a week without UB here

I know my results are positive for defoliating, unless you think I'm lying for some reason I know that my yields went up once I started defoliating and you can't argue that otherwise.

Defoliating is another way of controlling our plants in our controlled artificial environment, things one would do to a plant outside do not always apply to what happens in an artificial indoor growing environment. Posting articles about sunflowers is absolutely asinine by the way, why the hell would I care about what happens to a sunflower outside and compare that to my marijuana plant inside.
 
After growing the same strain for years a powder mold problem arose. Removing almost all the leaves saved the grow, then noticed about a 10-15% increase in total bud weight. Must of been the PM. :roll:. But then again I have no pictures so...... it never happened. :mrgreen:
 
sheik yerbouti said:
This thread was civil for a week without UB here

I know my results are positive for defoliating, unless you think I'm lying for some reason I know that my yields went up once I started defoliating and you can't argue that otherwise.

Defoliating is another way of controlling our plants in our controlled artificial environment, things one would do to a plant outside do not always apply to what happens in an artificial indoor growing environment. Posting articles about sunflowers is absolutely asinine by the way, why the hell would I care about what happens to a sunflower outside and compare that to my marijuana plant inside.
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Still civil lad! Just gotta sift between the garbage...Last couple pages are afterall loaded with useful knowledge :joint:
 
Sincerely420 said:
Still civil lad! Just gotta sift between the garbage...Last couple pages are afterall loaded with useful knowledge :joint:
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The last couple pages are about as useful as my nipples. Just some sniveling and cock competitions instead of actually discussing reasonably whether defoliating can help. I've never heard of a person who has actually experimented with defoliating say that it had negative effects, a lot of guys who have experimented or do it routinely that have positive effects and bunch of guys who have never done it saying its bad. "It must be bad, look at this article on sunflowers!" der.....
 
sheik yerbouti said:
This thread was civil for a week without UB here
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Damn, for a moment there thought you'd take the high road and blame its demise on GW Bush.

Posting articles about sunflowers is absolutely asinine by the way, why the hell would I care about what happens to a sunflower outside and compare that to my marijuana plant inside.
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Yeah, why would anyone care about botany here at Troll It Up? Such a waste of time tsk tsk.

I'll clue you in - it (the study about sunflowers, light transmission properties, etc.) was a scientific study as opposed to your self induced subjective conclusions.

UB
 
sheik yerbouti said:
The last couple pages are about as useful as my nipples. Just some sniveling and cock competitions instead of actually discussing reasonably whether defoliating can help. I've never heard of a person who has actually experimented with defoliating say that it had negative effects, a lot of guys who have experimented or do it routinely that have positive effects and bunch of guys who have never done it saying its bad. "It must be bad, look at this article on sunflowers!" der.....
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To each his own. :joint:
 
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