How do I get to heaven? Answers to your questions on eternal life.

Zaehet Strife

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When I'm afraid, i ask Jesus to come and speak truth into me.. And i find that it gives me a supernatural peace.
Why are you so adamant about telling people they are going to suffer eternal torment if they don't think exactly the same way you do?

Why the hostility?

It seems fishy to me, that even if we are perfect people our entire lives and do nothing but help others, just because we don't believe the things you do, this all loving entity is going to send us to eternal damnation?

That is a fucking stupid way of thinking bro... for real.
 

OldGrowth420

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All of your wisdom will count for nothing on the day you stand before the LORD God Almighty.
God's chosen will hear His call.
The truly wise will heed the call of the LORD and turn from their wicked ways and follow Jesus.

If you can look at the hues of the sunrise,
or watch the life of a dog..
Or feel love in a passionate kiss,
See the iridescent hues reflecting off the scales of a fish
And be truly convinced that all of this is happen stance

Or to never pay attention to the yearnings of one's own spirit,

I truly do not know what to say to convince you.
I pray in the name of Christ Jesus you come to your senses before your life draws to a close,
trapping you in a hopeless dance with the decisions you've made
falling into eternal darkness,
Separated from the light of God.

Where the only light is the fire that is burning you forever, and ever, and ever.
 

OldGrowth420

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No hostility here Zaehet.
Just loving concern,
Like a shepherd has for the sheep that have gone astray.

I'm not here to argue with you or anyone else.
 

Padawanbater2

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All of your wisdom will count for nothing on the day you stand before the LORD God Almighty.
God's chosen will hear His call.
The truly wise will heed the call of the LORD and turn from their wicked ways and follow Jesus.

If you can look at the hues of the sunrise,
or watch the life of a dog..
Or feel love in a passionate kiss,
See the iridescent hues reflecting off the scales of a fish
And be truly convinced that all of this is happen stance

Or to never pay attention to the yearnings of one's own spirit,

I truly do not know what to say to convince you.
I pray in the name of Christ Jesus you come to your senses before your life draws to a close,
trapping you in a hopeless dance with the decisions you've made
falling into eternal darkness,
Separated from the light of God.

Where the only light is the fire that is burning you forever, and ever, and ever.
Those are no terms and conditions of an omnibenevolent supreme being, they're the superstitious practices of ancient man.

If a mere mortal can figure that out on his own, what does that say about your god?


If you're right, I wouldn't want any part of it, I'd welcome the darkness.
 

Dislexicmidget2021

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Og ,youre experiences are yours alone.Btw when all is said and done it dosent matter who lost or who won,this life and existence cannot be explained by a subjective set of ideals and entity's by which you or your God deem them fit for all.What you dont seem to get through your experience is that it is your self truth,what you have found to be real for yourself,it dose not constitute what is real for the next person nor what reality actualy is.To say you know that non-believers will burn in hell forever when they die,is the most hateful and devil like thing you could posit toward people,you are no better than the devil of the story's in the bible in this sense.Who are you to say?One of Gods shephards?Do not fool yourself with such a grandeur of delusion.You may have had a set of experiences in your life that has given you a strong sense of purpose,while this is actualy a good thing,it is that very purpose that gives you a prejudice on existence.We live in a place of duality,every thought,every action has positive and negative within it.You call it Satans realm?As though the world belongs to him?I will give you this much there are alot of screwed up things in this world,alot of really bad sh*t.But it is just dumb people who act like foolish little children and never had an open ear to understanding,or an open thought to someone other than themselves and what they want.It comes down to people OG and the reactions we live with from eachothers actions,thats reality.You cant know what is going to happen when you die,so please dont assume to know.
May you find the courage to question your beliefs.
 

eye exaggerate

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i've tried to parse your meaning and the best i've got is your contending:

sex= god and the proof of that is that we're having this conversation?

taking that thought and running with it back to the "genesis" as you request

who had the first fuck that started this "theism"?
...barbless hooks, if you will. The answers are in your questions - 'cept the last one. Wouldn't we all like to know. Tolerance, though, would let us all try to know, if it were really a parsen :)

 

mindphuk

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If you have voices speaking to you, they might be demons.
If i audibly heard God's voice telling me to do something, and He gave me a clear sign to let me know it was Him.. I would surely obey Him.
What kind of sign would you require to prove it's god? Don't you already know what god sounds like to you? You certainly have intimated as much.

Would the level of proof be different for you if god commanded you to do something innocuous like go pray for that guy that just died-- like the Cardiac doctor that prayed and his patient came back to life-- or if he ordered you to do something you think is heinous like kill your own family member, or the President or something? How would you know the difference between god actually commanding you to do something and insanity?
 

Zaehet Strife

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No hostility here Zaehet.
Just loving concern,
Like a shepherd has for the sheep that have gone astray.

I'm not here to argue with you or anyone else.
Telling people that if they don't believe what you believe that they are going to burn and suffer for all the rest of eternity when they die.....

.......is quite simply on of the most sickening, appalling and hostile things anyone has ever said to me.

You are not here to spread the word of a kind loving god, you are here spreading your own opinions of hate and genocide.



Want to know what the real god would do if it existed... if you are a good person you go to heaven, if you are a bad person you go to hell... regardless of what you believe.

^If that's the way it really is, telling people they will burn and suffer forever because they don't think the way you do isn't going to get you anywhere close to heaven in the afterlife.
 

OldGrowth420

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What kind of sign would you require to prove it's god? Don't you already know what god sounds like to you? You certainly have intimated as much.

Would the level of proof be different for you if god commanded you to do something innocuous like go pray for that guy that just died-- like the Cardiac doctor that prayed and his patient came back to life-- or if he ordered you to do something you think is heinous like kill your own family member, or the President or something? How would you know the difference between god actually commanding you to do something and insanity?
I'm thinking a kind of vision, or actually seeing angels or God showing Himself in the form of His Son Jesus.
To question two, as long as what was being asked was pure and biblical, i probably wouldn't question it much.
As far as question three is concerned, i suppose it would take an intelligent, informed, discerning mind to know whether they were insane or not.
 

OldGrowth420

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Telling people that if they don't believe what you believe that they are going to burn and suffer for all the rest of eternity when they die.....

.......is quite simply on of the most sickening, appalling and hostile things anyone has ever said to me.

You are not here to spread the word of a kind loving god, you are here spreading your own opinions of hate and genocide.



Want to know what the real god would do if it existed... if you are a good person you go to heaven, if you are a bad person you go to hell... regardless of what you believe.

^If that's the way it really is, telling people they will burn and suffer forever because they don't think the way you do isn't going to get you anywhere close to heaven in the afterlife.
I hear you, and respect your opinion. I certainly only mean the best.

At the very least, in your time of dying... Cry out to Jesus and ask Him to save you from hell.

[video=youtube;cSXutOKhuS0]https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=cSXutOKhuS0[/video]
 

OldGrowth420

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And this one is of a doctor going to heaven when she dies during a kayaking accident

[video=youtube;ZPZHWbe9dF4]https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ZPZHWbe9dF4[/video]
 

Chief Walkin Eagle

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What about Muslims dying and seeing Allah and Mahommed in heaven? What about Hindu's dying and seeing a few of their gods? These kind of near death experiences are in almost every culture.
 

Dr Kynes

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The Ecstasy of Conn of the Hundred Battles
RIA MS 23 N 10​
Art shall drink it after forty nights, a mighty hero, until he shall die at Mucruime. Mac Con of the race of Lugaid Loígde, who shall play for a day and a week against Fergus Dubdétach, until they shall die at Bri, through seeking a battle which he shall deliver towards Crinnae. Corbmac shall drink it up; an ancient drink; a pleasant warrior; he shall die at Scoilicc; he shall be a glorious man over her; he shall wash her. Coirpre shall drink it, a fitting contestant with righteousness of rule. Firachri shall demand it; the great deceits of Meath shall advance to the distant sea, till Broadfaced Dáire shall distribute it for a plenteous month. Fécho, unwitting man of fire, from whom they shall be assessed in regard to tax, shall demand it. Muiredach Tírech shall be thirty-yeared. Glorious Crimthann shall bind her with a bond, broad fierce shape beneath foot, till Níall shall be extolled; (...) battles of boundaries, till fierce Loígaire shall be grieved by the coming of the Adzeheads, crossbeams of houses, bent trees, they used to carry blossoms, a rampart, a fort. An excellent champion, Coirpre, shall drink it. Feirce Lugaid of noble great drinking shall be approached: ordeal of battle. A glorious man upon him, theson of Ercéne. Óengarb shall take it with fame of fierce spear. Aíd, glorious champion, shall take it, Aíd Olláin who shall smite a smiting. Diarmait's justice shall be on her: Diarmati, by whom forts shall be ruled with glorious (...), shall demand it, till towards Irthine (?) (...) Féachno (...) over her. Noble Suibne shall be better. Domnall shall be a glorious Óengus. Bláthmac shall approach it, [and] Diarmait, the other's grandson. He who shall celebrate the celebration, rule of exemptions, rule of guilts, rule of slayers, is the two-hundred-yeared Éilimm who was: Snow fo Wine [Snechta Fína, i.e. Fínṡnechta aliter Fínnachta] who shall pour shall drink it: rule from Níall to Níall; the descendant of Níall is everyone's Níall: hostages are pledged; fire approchaes thee; through him bracken shall be red and rough; perhaps in the third month over a year he shall die by teh sea: great the gloom and loss to the world's generations. A sixty-year king, after hosts it is his; he shall die by blood; fierce battle shall injure them, loss, death. Flann of Assal shall be over her, a glorious heir: he shall powerfully bind her with a handful of hostages. Furbaide shall approach it, better thane very man over her, a king good in regard to judgement, good in regard to splendour, glorious ruler upon whom shall be a heavy (...) smiting as a result fo which there shall be death at Brī. The rule of Cailech, strongly shall it be known over her. Glúnṡalach shall be over her; a race who sides are very red, he shall bind them with hostages; he shall seize Ross; he shall rule Munster, good battle, first (...) of Irthine (?), glorious ruler over Tara. A kin-slaying man, prone to unjust judgements, shall approach it; he shall drink it to the pit of the world; encircling Saxons, he shall drive them from Corc; he is the king of Munster of great lordships in Tara.
Finit.

prophesied to come in glory, and fight in 100 battles, winning 99, and upon the last, his death.
Might Hero, Noble King, Conn of the Hundred Battles
Just in treaty with his foes, Noble in stewardship of his people, Conn of the Hundred Battles was ever judicious where engaged in conflict, for 99 battles prophesied he would win, and the Hundredth would find his doom.
Prophesy named him Conn of the Hundred Battles
And his wife never let him forget it.
the bitch always got her way.
 

Dr Kynes

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What about Muslims dying and seeing Allah and Mahommed in heaven? What about Hindu's dying and seeing a few of their gods? These kind of near death experiences are in almost every culture.
oxygen deprivation causes delirium and hallucination.
dying brains see all kinds of wacky shit.
 

OldGrowth420

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Allah and Adonai, are the same God to start.
If a person has not heard of Christ and rejected Him, if they have lived a good life they could still get to heaven.
Show me some of these near death experiences you speak of, then we can talk about them more in depth.
 

Chief Walkin Eagle

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Allah and Adonai, are the same God to start.
If a person has not heard of Christ and rejected Him, if they have lived a good life they could still get to heaven.
Show me some of these near death experiences you speak of, then we can talk about them more in depth.
Really? I need to show you? You honestly think Christianity is the only religion where you're able to see the god of your beliefs during a near death experience?
 

Dislexicmidget2021

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Allah and Adonai, are the same God to start.
If a person has not heard of Christ and rejected Him, if they have lived a good life they could still get to heaven.

So a person who converts from christianity to any other religion,say Islam or Buddhism for example, is going to hell thats basicaly what youre saying.How narrow of a mind indeed.
 
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