How many innocent lives are your guns worth?

canndo

Well-Known Member
I've been thinking a lot about guns, gun violence, mass shootings on the one hand, U.S. civil rights and the 2nd amendment on another hand and on a third hand, the explosive, reactionary, irrational responses to any percieved threat to most gun owners ability to do as they please with firearms, buy as they wish, and be held completely unaccountable for their ideological contribution to gun violence.


But the question finally draws down to a very simple one: how many innocent deaths is each one of your guns worth?

I know I am making some critical presumptions, that the removal of law abiding citizen's guns does not directly correlate with a reduction in gun violence and that there is the counterbalancing factor of self protection and perhaps an offset for potential governmental tyranny.

But that aside, presuming that a number could be established,


If you knew for certain that surrendering your firearm would keep a given number of children from being shot, what would that number be?

How many children is your right to keep and bear worth to you?
 

NLXSK1

Well-Known Member
I've been thinking a lot about guns, gun violence, mass shootings on the one hand, U.S. civil rights and the 2nd amendment on another hand and on a third hand, the explosive, reactionary, irrational responses to any percieved threat to most gun owners ability to do as they please with firearms, buy as they wish, and be held completely unaccountable for their ideological contribution to gun violence.


But the question finally draws down to a very simple one: how many innocent deaths is each one of your guns worth?

I know I am making some critical presumptions, that the removal of law abiding citizen's guns does not directly correlate with a reduction in gun violence and that there is the counterbalancing factor of self protection and perhaps an offset for potential governmental tyranny.

But that aside, presuming that a number could be established,


If you knew for certain that surrendering your firearm would keep a given number of children from being shot, what would that number be?

How many children is your right to keep and bear worth to you?
All of them...
 

cobra28widow

New Member
I would have to say my life and MY KIDS lives are worth more.. Somebody breaks in or tries to rob me or whatever... they are getting shot.. Cars kill people all the time.. so should be all get rid of our cars?? knives kill ppl.. lets get rid of them too.
 

Mr Neutron

Well-Known Member
I've been thinking a lot about guns, gun violence, mass shootings on the one hand, U.S. civil rights and the 2nd amendment on another hand and on a third hand, the explosive, reactionary, irrational responses to any percieved threat to most gun owners ability to do as they please with firearms, buy as they wish, and be held completely unaccountable for their ideological contribution to gun violence.


But the question finally draws down to a very simple one: how many innocent deaths is each one of your guns worth?

I know I am making some critical presumptions, that the removal of law abiding citizen's guns does not directly correlate with a reduction in gun violence and that there is the counterbalancing factor of self protection and perhaps an offset for potential governmental tyranny.

But that aside, presuming that a number could be established,


If you knew for certain that surrendering your firearm would keep a given number of children from being shot, what would that number be?

How many children is your right to keep and bear worth to you?
How many liberties are your statist ideas worth?
 

drolove

Well-Known Member
jesus come on its not the guns! did you hear about the STABBING in texas the other day? gonna have to ban them knifes now too and just chew you meat apart like animals i guess.
go ahead and take the guns away, you wont get them all! you'll be lucky to get half and your not getting the bad guys guns hell no your taking the good guys guns away. so now your left with no means to fight off the bad guys. congrats!
 

lifegoesonbrah

Well-Known Member
How many tyrannical governments are you willing to accept for gun control?

20th century deaths by government 170 million
 

Flaming Pie

Well-Known Member
"If you knew for certain that surrendering your firearm would keep a given number of children from being shot, what would that number be?"

If I thought my gun was going to shoot a number of children, I would have it euthenized humanely.
 

lifegoesonbrah

Well-Known Member
jesus come on its not the guns! did you hear about the STABBING in texas the other day? gonna have to ban them knifes now too and just chew you meat apart like animals i guess.
go ahead and take the guns away, you wont get them all! you'll be lucky to get half and your not getting the bad guys guns hell no your taking the good guys guns away. so now your left with no means to fight off the bad guys. congrats!

They don't ever talk about any reasonable means of actually implementing gun control, just emotional outbursts such as the OP.
 

canndo

Well-Known Member
I would have to say my life and MY KIDS lives are worth more.. Somebody breaks in or tries to rob me or whatever... they are getting shot.. Cars kill people all the time.. so should be all get rid of our cars?? knives kill ppl.. lets get rid of them too.

There is always the car and knife argument from the gun toters. This is not about cars nor knives. Should the government with our help opt to ban all knives it could be done without any legal problem. Same with cars, we could for the sake of lives ban all cars.

Not so with firearms that are the only possession specifically singled out as being protected. But what is of interest to me is the tendancy to avoid the direct question. You say that your kids and your own life is worth more than the lives of an unknown number of others. Now you present a set of givens (I have already said I had). You do not know if you or your family will ever be endangered in such a way as to require your ownership of a firearm. The question remains.


If you knew for certain that surrendering your weapon would save children's lives, how many would it take for you to exchange your glock for a k-cup coffee maker?
 

desert dude

Well-Known Member
I've been thinking a lot about guns, gun violence, mass shootings on the one hand, U.S. civil rights and the 2nd amendment on another hand and on a third hand, the explosive, reactionary, irrational responses to any percieved threat to most gun owners ability to do as they please with firearms, buy as they wish, and be held completely unaccountable for their ideological contribution to gun violence.


But the question finally draws down to a very simple one: how many innocent deaths is each one of your guns worth?

I know I am making some critical presumptions, that the removal of law abiding citizen's guns does not directly correlate with a reduction in gun violence and that there is the counterbalancing factor of self protection and perhaps an offset for potential governmental tyranny.

But that aside, presuming that a number could be established,


If you knew for certain that surrendering your firearm would keep a given number of children from being shot, what would that number be?

How many children is your right to keep and bear worth to you?
How many people cast into slavery is your subservience worth?
 

lifegoesonbrah

Well-Known Member
There is always the car and knife argument from the gun toters. This is not about cars nor knives. Should the government with our help opt to ban all knives it could be done without any legal problem. Same with cars, we could for the sake of lives ban all cars.

Not so with firearms that are the only possession specifically singled out as being protected. But what is of interest to me is the tendancy to avoid the direct question. You say that your kids and your own life is worth more than the lives of an unknown number of others. Now you present a set of givens (I have already said I had). You do not know if you or your family will ever be endangered in such a way as to require your ownership of a firearm. The question remains.


If you knew for certain that surrendering your weapon would save children's lives, how many would it take for you to exchange your glock for a k-cup coffee maker?

If you knew for certain that surrendering your car would save childrens lives, how many would it take to exchange your Buick for a one on one with Al Gore?
 

Winter Woman

Well-Known Member
my weapon of choice against a home invasion is a samurai sword. the gov can fuck off if they think they are going to take my sword
I know of a robber that is missing 8 digits. He lost them while trying to climb in the window. Happened in Vegas about 15 years ago. He sued the homeowner. Old man lost just about everything fighting the lawsuit too. Now if he had a gun...
 
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