Legal pot in Washington: What it should look like...

Wavels

Well-Known Member
I thought this was very interesting.
Government seems incapable of ever keeping things simple and workable....Fascinating to see how this will play out.:joint:


Here’s a gig. The state Liquor Control Board is looking for consultants who can tell it “how marijuana is grown, cultivated, harvested, cured and processed.”

Also, “How marijuana is infused into food and beverages. How marijuana should be packaged, labeled, transported and sold at a retail level.”
There are plenty of experts out there, no doubt. The question is, do they have to pass a background check?

This sums up the fix the liquor board is in as it tries to turn legal marijuana into reality.
Initiative 502 ordered the board to create a full-blown, highly regulated industry – “from seed to sale,” as the agency describes it. It has to make the rules for everything from licensed grow operations to processing centers to retail pot stores.
The problem is, nothing of the sort has ever been done. Anywhere. In the world. No one knows what it looks like.
As the liquor board proceeds to do the unprecedented, some principles ought to be followed.
For starters, the industry should be given no freebies. This is one case in which an initiative needs immediate tinkering by the requisite two-thirds majority of the Legislature.
The measure lets would-be growers and retailers into the game for a piddling $1,000 license fee. But legal marijuana could turn into a $1 billion-a-year industry. If it does, these would be licenses to print money.
If Washington must have legal marijuana, it should charge applicants what the market will bear. An auction, for example, could produce a bonanza of fees for the state – money that could help fund the looming struggle to keep cheaper and more abundant marijuana away from schoolchildren.

The Legislature should also let communities opt out of marijuana if their citizens so desire. Marijuana remains illegal under federal law, but I-502 prevents cities and town from barring the sale of it within their borders. One good lawsuit might settle that problem.

The liquor board itself has the authority to address another crucial issue: How much marijuana should be grown.
The initiative envisions quantities large enough – and prices low enough – to eliminate the existing black market. Yet surpluses would inevitably find their way into other states to feed their black markets. Covert exports will invite a deserved crackdown from federal enforcement.
But if this state’s black market continues to operate alongside the licensed retailers, the initiative will have served solely to expand marijuana use – which is supposedly not the idea.
Walking this fine line will be tough. Preventing expanded use by adolescents will be tougher, perhaps impossible. For pot consultants, opportunity knocks.

Read more here: http://blog.thenewstribune.com/opinion/2013/01/22/legal-pot-in-washington-what-it-should-look-like/#storylink=cp






also:




http://washingtonexaminer.com/steve-chapman-the-war-on-pot-is-a-losing-fight/article/2519089?custom_click=rss&utm_campaign=Weekly+Standard+Story+Box&utm_source=we
 

ChesusRice

Well-Known Member
I thought this was very interesting.
Government seems incapable of ever keeping things simple and workable....Fascinating to see how this will play out.:joint:


Here’s a gig. The state Liquor Control Board is looking for consultants who can tell it “how marijuana is grown, cultivated, harvested, cured and processed.”

Also, “How marijuana is infused into food and beverages. How marijuana should be packaged, labeled, transported and sold at a retail level.”
There are plenty of experts out there, no doubt. The question is, do they have to pass a background check?

This sums up the fix the liquor board is in as it tries to turn legal marijuana into reality.
Initiative 502 ordered the board to create a full-blown, highly regulated industry – “from seed to sale,” as the agency describes it. It has to make the rules for everything from licensed grow operations to processing centers to retail pot stores.
The problem is, nothing of the sort has ever been done. Anywhere. In the world. No one knows what it looks like.
As the liquor board proceeds to do the unprecedented, some principles ought to be followed.
For starters, the industry should be given no freebies. This is one case in which an initiative needs immediate tinkering by the requisite two-thirds majority of the Legislature.
The measure lets would-be growers and retailers into the game for a piddling $1,000 license fee. But legal marijuana could turn into a $1 billion-a-year industry. If it does, these would be licenses to print money.
If Washington must have legal marijuana, it should charge applicants what the market will bear. An auction, for example, could produce a bonanza of fees for the state – money that could help fund the looming struggle to keep cheaper and more abundant marijuana away from schoolchildren.

The Legislature should also let communities opt out of marijuana if their citizens so desire. Marijuana remains illegal under federal law, but I-502 prevents cities and town from barring the sale of it within their borders. One good lawsuit might settle that problem.

The liquor board itself has the authority to address another crucial issue: How much marijuana should be grown.
The initiative envisions quantities large enough – and prices low enough – to eliminate the existing black market. Yet surpluses would inevitably find their way into other states to feed their black markets. Covert exports will invite a deserved crackdown from federal enforcement.
But if this state’s black market continues to operate alongside the licensed retailers, the initiative will have served solely to expand marijuana use – which is supposedly not the idea.
Walking this fine line will be tough. Preventing expanded use by adolescents will be tougher, perhaps impossible. For pot consultants, opportunity knocks.

Read more here: http://blog.thenewstribune.com/opinion/2013/01/22/legal-pot-in-washington-what-it-should-look-like/#storylink=cp






also:




http://washingtonexaminer.com/steve-chapman-the-war-on-pot-is-a-losing-fight/article/2519089?custom_click=rss&utm_campaign=Weekly+Standard+Story+Box&utm_source=we

Oh I'm sorry
Are you saying I am right that the only real solution to legalization is
Legal to grow and possess
Illegal to sell?
 

NLXSK1

Well-Known Member
aren't you the same sandy vagina who keeps talking about how i should go to jail?
Actually, I didnt say you should go to jail. I asked you how you sleep at night putting your wife in such huge legal jeopardy?

But you are a parasite, I dont expect you to care...
 

UncleBuck

Well-Known Member
Actually, I didnt say you should go to jail. I asked you how you sleep at night putting your wife in such huge legal jeopardy?

But you are a parasite, I dont expect you to care...
it's perfectly legal for a husband to gift thousands of dollars to his wife. not sure how giving my wife thousands of dollars makes me a parasite though.

i do believe that's just your raging hate boner of jealousy talking. my condolences that you live in a trailer and are incapable of gaining the admiration of a human female, much less courting one into sexual intercourse.

let me guess your comeback: we all have no idea what you're capable of. :lol:
 

ChesusRice

Well-Known Member
Well aint you all puppy dogs and butterflies....
Awaiting the first lawsuit over insecticide tainted weed
or
Selling weed to close to a school
or
Advertised THC content not as advertised

When the Federal Goverment gives the Green light Phillip Morris will step in Lobby for regulations and licensing
Making it illegal for anyone to sell that isnt licensed and regulated to the tune of hundreds of thousands of dollars
 

NLXSK1

Well-Known Member
Awaiting the first lawsuit over insecticide tainted weed
or
Selling weed to close to a school
or
Advertised THC content not as advertised

When the Federal Goverment gives the Green light Phillip Morris will step in Lobby for regulations and licensing
Making it illegal for anyone to sell that isnt licensed and regulated to the tune of hundreds of thousands of dollars
You want to do the same thing...
 

NLXSK1

Well-Known Member
it's perfectly legal for a husband to gift thousands of dollars to his wife. not sure how giving my wife thousands of dollars makes me a parasite though.

i do believe that's just your raging hate boner of jealousy talking. my condolences that you live in a trailer and are incapable of gaining the admiration of a human female, much less courting one into sexual intercourse.

let me guess your comeback: we all have no idea what you're capable of. :lol:
Where is the money coming from Bucky? Not like you leave and go to a job every day. The point is that she is obviously an accomplice if she is accepting thousands of dollars of drug money from her bum of a husband...

You really havent thought this through eh? Not really my problem, it just shows what a dangerous parasite you are...
 

UncleBuck

Well-Known Member
Where is the money coming from Bucky? Not like you leave and go to a job every day. The point is that she is obviously an accomplice if she is accepting thousands of dollars of drug money from her bum of a husband...

You really havent thought this through eh? Not really my problem, it just shows what a dangerous parasite you are...
wait, let me get this straight: am i a parasitic bum, or am i sending thousands of dollars my wife's way?

we have no idea what you're capable of, i know, but it doesn't seem like anyone is capable of both things you describe.

please justify yourself to us.
 

tumorhead

Well-Known Member
Low cost of entry to grow cannabis will keep things fair for more people than an auction where only big corporations could afford a license.

Beyond that, people not living in WA don't really have a clue what it's like here.

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Weed is more common than tobacco here in Seattle, and it was before the new laws. In fact over the last 3 years it has more than exploded.
 

SnakeByte

Active Member
I think you should be able to sell if you pay taxes on it as you do with any sale for profit. (Or are supposed to do)
 

NLXSK1

Well-Known Member
wait, let me get this straight: am i a parasitic bum, or am i sending thousands of dollars my wife's way?

we have no idea what you're capable of, i know, but it doesn't seem like anyone is capable of both things you describe.

please justify yourself to us.
Growing pot is not a job....

You sit around all day and post on the internet.

You are a parasite...

It is really pretty simple.
 

SnakeByte

Active Member
Growing pot is not a job....

You sit around all day and post on the internet.

You are a parasite...

It is really pretty simple.
It most certainly is a job, NOW.
Believe it falls under Horticulture, and farming...

Saying people who grow food, flowers, trees and other crap don't have jobs??
 

NLXSK1

Well-Known Member
It most certainly is a job, NOW.
Believe it falls under Horticulture, and farming...

Saying people who grow food, flowers, trees and other crap don't have jobs??
Should I have qualified it by saying in a small crappy greenhouse with litter boxes and axes lying everywhere?

Buck certainly doesnt qualify as a farmer...
 

ChesusRice

Well-Known Member
I think you should be able to sell if you pay taxes on it as you do with any sale for profit. (Or are supposed to do)

That would be awesome. but let's face the facts. Like any product made for human consumption. It will be regulated. And when the stakes are this high. You can depend on Big Tobacco to get laws passed to make sure you dont get a share. Grow some tobacco and try to sell it.
 

NLXSK1

Well-Known Member
That would be awesome. but let's face the facts. Like any product made for human consumption. It will be regulated. And when the stakes are this high. You can depend on Big Tobacco to get laws passed to make sure you dont get a share. Grow some tobacco and try to sell it.
And you cant start a cab service in NY without the 1,000,000 dollar medallion...

But who is making it difficult for the little guy?? Not big tobacco, they simply dont have the power.

IT IS THE GOVERNMENT!!!
 

tumorhead

Well-Known Member
They aren't regulating the medical pot, not that they never will but it's a long way off.

Secondly anyone has access to getting their buds tested for a small fee to prove what it contains. Some of the higher end dispensaries do automatically and they show you exactly what ratios of cannabinoids, thc, etc are in the bud and that there aren't pesticides and shit in it. As a farmer I could do this at the end of the harvest, get it certified and continue on.

I personally don't see any money in farming MMJ if they do allow everyone to grow it. Supply and demand and already there's a surplus of supply here in Seattle, without legal growers...
 
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