Astir Grow Led Panel Project...

weedman420gr

Active Member
Καλημερα με βροχουλα...
Goodmorning with rain...

[video=youtube;iQv_acJ3ICs]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=iQv_acJ3ICs[/video]

Got to have kaya now
Got to have kaya now
Got to have kaya now
For the rain is fallin'!

We-e-e-e-e-ell, I feel so high, I even touch the sky
Above the fallin' rain!
I feel so good in my neighbourhood, so:
Here I come again!
 

stardustsailor

Well-Known Member
Moody weather today ...
Grey ...
Some girls never fade away ....
[video=youtube;Htm8Gb5gNQA]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Htm8Gb5gNQA[/video]

Monika is great .....

So's she...



 

stardustsailor

Well-Known Member
Sailing to nowhere....
As always ....
[video=youtube;t33UFgse24Y]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=t33UFgse24Y[/video]

(She a great young artist ,to listen ...While in such rainy ,grey mornings (days) ...)
 

stardustsailor

Well-Known Member
Oh....Music...Listen to this :
[video=youtube;A8PBl8uLimk]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=A8PBl8uLimk[/video]

✩ Artist : Monika - Track : Away from my Land - Album : Exit
✩ Lyrics and Comments by Helen Rentzou

The theme of the song is inspired by tales of 'flying away' ,chasing a dream against the establishment,like the familiar story of seagull Jonathan who believed that flying not only serves to find food,but had a deeper meaning with a strong feeling of pleasure and moral integration.
Sometimes it does not matter who is to blame and how much, but the power remaining in humans,who has lost all hope and optimism,to continue-not just to survive- but to "live".
Importance of moving forward ,with a single asset: DREAMS.
Apart from money, fame and social advancement.

I will shoot you, shoot you
With a rising balloon,
With its shade on my heart
With a clock on my door

Away, away from my land
Away, away from my boat
Will you find me a trail?
Will you be that naive?

When your full lips declare:
"I will be, I will be, I will be, I
will be immoral!"


Το θέμα του τραγουδιού είναι εμπνευσμένο από ιστορίες φυγής που κυνηγούν ένα όνειρο ενάντια στο κατεστημένο,
όπως η γνωστή ιστορία του γλάρου Ιωνάθαν ο οποίος πίστευε πως το να πετάς δεν εξυπηρετεί μόνο στην ανεύρεση τροφής,αλλά είχε ένα βαθύτερο νόημα με ένα ισχυρό αίσθημα ευχαρίστησης και ηθικής ολοκλήρωσης.
Μερικές φορές δεν έχει σημασία ποιος φταίει και πόσο, αλλά η δύναμη που απομένει στον άνθρωπο,ο οποίος έχει χάσει κάθε ελπίδα και αισιοδοξία, να συνεχίσει -όχι απλώς για να επιβιώσει, αλλά για να "ζήσει".
Σημασία έχει να προχωράς με ένα και μόνο εφόδιο:ΤΑ ΟΝΕΙΡΑ.
Πέρα από το χρήμα, τη δόξα και την κοινωνική ανέλιξη.

Θα σε εκτοξεύσω (στον ουρανό)
σε ένα ανερχόμενο μπαλόνι (που ανέρχεται στον ουρανό)
που έχει τη σκιά του χαραγμένη στην καρδιά μου
κι ένα ρολόι κρεμασμένο στην πόρτα μου
Μακρυα,μακρυά από την πατρίδα μου
μακρυα, μακρυά από τη μοίρα μου
θα βρεις ένα πέρασμα για μένα;
η θα είσαι τόσο αφελής
ωστε τα πλούσια χείλη σου να ξεστομίζουν:
Θα συνεχίσω, θα συνεχίσω, θα συνεχίσω, θα συνεχίσω να ζω μια έκλυτη ζωη
 

weedman420gr

Active Member
I just read this ; (it is a description for dinafem white widow ) Just read the bold...

Dinafem Seeds White Widow is the most potent cannabis on Earth and is named for the abundance of trichomes, giving the plant a whitish tint. It is also one of the more powerful strains of marijuana (alongside AK-47 and Afghan Kush) with a very high 20%-25% THC content. White Widow feminized seeds are (60%/40%) indica/sativa cross-strain and is best suited to indoor cannabis cultivation. White widow can grow as high as 35-80 cm with the yield up to 450 gr per m2. It's suggested to flower (12 hour light) this marijuana variety for 8 weeks, but 10 weeks will really give you the crystals you are after. Try to turn the lights off altogether the final 2 weeks of the flowering cycle- or at least down to 8 hours. This keeps the flowers from re-growth and stresses the plant into giving up its last drop of goodness as crystal to protect the flower! The buds have so much THC on them that it is hard to see them at all.White Widow feminized seeds produce plants that give you the taste of freshness laced with many fruits, because of the strength of the cannabis crystals - the only real taste goes hand in hand with the expectorant effects of the THC. The smell is strong pungency. It first hits you, then follows a sour sweetness with the final whiff ... turning sweet. If a plant could have a strong body odour then the White Widow needs a deodorant. Cannabis smokers adore its sweet, thick, acrid smoke that imparts a hammering stone. Extremely powerful. Recommended for experienced smokers only.



SDS, what do you think...you should really consider of doing this little trick...( have you ever done it with success ? )
 

pepperdust

Well-Known Member
No it's not crap ....
I regard that just one of those, could blast your 2x2 room ...
With two .... :weed:

Still is way a lot of $$$ for 60 Watts ...
Way much money ....

ok,

I still don't understand, as what I see of these, they still use LED, only the phosphor is a different type / design .. so that leaves me to think even the best LED will be limited, and not the numbers you are saying around. take 30 watts of say of cree XM-L2 and you still can't expect that to fill 4 square foot area, let alone 60 watts.

here is showing the design of these. all these were designed for was movie production / high end photography, as they have a CRI of 95, that's it, not because there more powerful technology

I'm not sure, but I don't think these are as powerful as I'm thinking.. open to any info as always
 

stardustsailor

Well-Known Member
Ta...
Ta -ta -ta !!!

The End....











Dunno how much is gonna be ...
But for the watts used ( 132-190 ) looks like a decent yield ...
( +18,3 g from the other ... )



So ..

Now ...

Next design....

Oslons WW & few NW .
Only ...
It's more than enough .... :blsmoke:


4 panels x 35 Watt for 1 m^2 ( 3' x 3 ' )
I think 'll do ....

No MCPCB.


and

Copper Circuit Cooling for led slugs ...

(Oh such delicious smell ,those buds have ....)
 

stardustsailor

Well-Known Member
Anyone any doubts about white leds ?
Even the cheapos, guys...
Even the cheapos can grow ....

Imagine the "good" ones ,how they'll perform ...

No need for Cool Whites ...
Or blues ..
Or reds ...
Or FR ...
-Ok ..Uv / violet is under still investigation ...Kinda tricky ...Affects yield ...
Or amber ,or greens ,or who knows what combo of disco lights .....

White light ....
Something like ...
40-60% red (600-699 nm )
25-35 % green ( 500-599 nm )
5-15 % blue ( 400-499 nm )
3-5 % FR ( 700 to 750 nm )

So .....
Massive amount of WW ( 2500-2700 K- with 450-455 nm blue peak /die )
and few NW ( 4500-5500 K with 440-445 nm blue peak /die )

I'll try 6 : 1 ( pcs of Oslons SSL 80's WW : NW ,not rel. powers )..

Further trimming ,might be needed ...
....

(Still a custom blended WW remote phosphor grow panel ,is my ideal ....But ...)
 

PSUAGRO.

Well-Known Member
^^^^^your % break down is exactly describing the light output of a CMH bulb.........So we want to copy HID now??? white Led's will surpass HPS/LPS in lum/per watt in the near future and it's proven to flower extremely well ...so why not I guess. I still have a problem with your 25-35% 500-600nm:P

Oh btw next time your chop always leave a small branch at the base of the flowers so you can hang it without ties.........
 

locoezon

Active Member
Jack daniel's+amaretto the best combination Sailor :-P:-P
From that it appears even if the seed was not the best ideal for Indoor culture, did his job and with the above...
Maybe cuz of the WHITE LEDS? :weed:


One more time , Great job Brother
Cheers :bigjoint:
 

stardustsailor

Well-Known Member
^^^^^your % break down is exactly describing the light output of a CMH bulb.........So we want to copy HID now???
First copy ,then surpass ...
Setting a " well-known base" to explore the "unknown territories" ...
white Led's will surpass HPS/LPS in lum/per watt in the near future and it's proven to flower extremely well ...so why not I guess. I still have a problem with your 25-35% 500-600nm:P
I'll analyse that 30% ....

500-560 nm : 5%
561-580 nm : 10 %
581-599 nm : 15 %

.....
So in fact is greenish yellow -amberish yellow...Most of it ..(like at HPS light )...

So if G = like ' HPS ' (30% )

https://www.rollitup.org/led-other-lighting/611060-led-tech-news-gossip-innovations-2.html#post8529154


Then 5-15% B = " MH "

The rest 40-60 % is R + 3-5% FR =we can assume freely that is a light blend of incandescent ,Halogen & LPS .......


Only...
With two types of white leds ...

Oh btw next time your chop always leave a small branch at the base of the flowers so you can hang it without ties.........
Usually that I do ,also...
Dunno this time why I didn't ..
Too stoned ,to remember it ...
I guess...
 

stardustsailor

Well-Known Member
Yes,10-30 (BTW -Cool set up there ....Nice work .. !! )

WW & NW ...
Until remote phosphor tech ,comes down to Earth ,to us humble growers ..
Until then ,choosing a good Warm White & Neutral White led (brand/type/bin) and
mixin' them ,is a really efficient way of led growing ...
No matter vegging or flowering .(can be the same lamp ,if light is "balanced" enough ... )

Still along a wide emission lens angle ( 80- 130 degrees ) ,
@ 350 mA driving
& leds distributed at multiple panels (a bit more powerfull than 22-23 Watt ..35-40 Watt is better for 1m^2 space ..)..
...

https://www.rollitup.org/led-other-lighting/613358-new-experimental-advanced-diy-designs.html
 

tenthirty

Well-Known Member
It's a Cyclptics pre-production reflector with a Elite Agro bulb sport'in 315 watts.
Total wattage is about 700 watts in a 5x10 tent.
About 30 w sq ft over the growing area.

Elite Agro spectrum.
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