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RetiredMatthebrute

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My point exactly. you should try bio tone as well.
in the near future i want to get another tote and do a flowering and a veg mix so i can plant them in small pots for veg with blood meap and then i can transplant them into a mix of soil with more bone meal and kelp meal. i check into the bio tone next time i head over to Agway.
 

TrynaGroSumShyt

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cool, i have my veg soil set up. When i use it for flower i just add guana suited for that. every batch get 1inch of castings on top. and i re-use so im sure my soil is rich as hell.
 

smellzlikeskunkyum

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you gotta know what you're doin to re-use properly. nice job TrynaGro.

i couldnt do it right now... im gonna look at that stuff ya'll mentioned above tho... like the epsoma jazz.
 

RetiredMatthebrute

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cool, i have my veg soil set up. When i use it for flower i just add guana suited for that. every batch get 1inch of castings on top. and i re-use so im sure my soil is rich as hell.
do you have a link for re hashing potting soil? i really would like to re use mine as it gets fairly espensive to continue buying new stuff.

thanks
 

curious old fart

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Here's the entire line up for a simple, easy grow

Square garden $18.95
Pro Mix 18.95
Natural Guard 6.99
Lady bug 29.95
perlite approx 5.00

this makes about 33 gallons of mix. Feed every four weeks with the natural guard and water every two weeks with the lady bug.



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cof
 

TrynaGroSumShyt

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you gotta know what you're doin to re-use properly. nice job TrynaGro.

i couldnt do it right now... im gonna look at that stuff ya'll mentioned above tho... like the epsoma jazz.
Ive been re-using soil forever. IDK why people don't get how easy it is. even before i was organic it was pretty easy. But organically its different and much easier, i dont flush or anything. Just re-amend it. Only thing im worried about is if it ends up over amended. I would reccomend an enzyme product to eat away roots and such things. Otherwise its soil, so if you use a synthetic nute just flush the salts out of the soil n go again.
 

smellzlikeskunkyum

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so honestly its just that stuff vs the liquid form of doing the same/similar isnt it?

like to break it down, ss and pre-ammended soils have all the stuff you would add normally, just already thrown together. and i know some people let the soil "cure up" or whatever before use too.

i hope im on the right track here generally. sounds like i missing out on the nice bacterias tho...
i tried discussing that with the guy at the grow shop too, thats a whole other thing.
 

RetiredMatthebrute

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right on, i think im just going to start dumping it back into the tote. i have a vermi bin with plenty of worms in it i can add some worm casting to my soil with the worms and they will make short work of the roots. the roots should break down and provide N i always thought,
 

giggles26

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Tgss, what all do you ammend your soil with?

Don't you also do some teas? or is your soil amended heavily enough to be without?
 

TrynaGroSumShyt

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so honestly its just that stuff vs the liquid form of doing the same/similar isnt it?

like to break it down, ss and pre-ammended soils have all the stuff you would add normally, just already thrown together. and i know some people let the soil "cure up" or whatever before use too.

i hope im on the right track here generally. sounds like i missing out on the nice bacterias tho...
i tried discussing that with the guy at the grow shop too, thats a whole other thing.
Youre on the right track, its just for growers who arent willing to source ingredients or have the space to do their own.

right on, i think im just going to start dumping it back into the tote. i have a vermi bin with plenty of worms in it i can add some worm casting to my soil with the worms and they will make short work of the roots. the roots should break down and provide N i always thought,
Sounds like a hell of a plan. I got tired of buying new soil and having no where t o safely dump my old soil.

Tgss, what all do you ammend your soil with?

Don't you also do some teas? or is your soil amended heavily enough to be without?
EWC, Kelp Meal, Dolo Lime, Espoma Bio-Tone and about 3 types of guanos. I also use tea with that stuff + Liquid Kelp, Molasses. And recently Botanicare Pro Bloom soil, and Advanced Nutrients Nirvana. i can water with plain water and be fine as well.
 

giggles26

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Youre on the right track, its just for growers who arent willing to source ingredients or have the space to do their own.

Sounds like a hell of a plan. I got tired of buying new soil and having no where t o safely dump my old soil.


EWC, Kelp Meal, Dolo Lime, Espoma Bio-Tone and about 3 types of guanos. I also use tea with that stuff + Liquid Kelp, Molasses. And recently Botanicare Pro Bloom soil, and Advanced Nutrients Nirvana. i can water with plain water and be fine as well.
Right on bro thanks. I've got indonesian,mexican, and seabird guano. Just ordered a shit ton of EWC,kelp. What are you using for soil?
 

wormdrive66

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I love dirt so much I ordered 80 yrds of it. Talk about breaking the bank. I think the fuel charge is more than the actual soil. Can't wait to get my hands dirty. Now if the temps would get above 20 that would be nice. 20 degrees in calif? WTF? Global warming? Not at my house.

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smellzlikeskunkyum

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ya know i kinda figured about the RO thing... Its just that there are alot of info's out there that say stay away from doing that.
i suppose really it comes down to how much control u need over your ppm?
doesnt growing in soil kinda not benefit from RO? im sry if i sound like an idiot... i just want to make sure i get this right. u'd be suprised how many "experienced" people tell me all sorts of different things when it comes to water. and everything else for that matter, ha.

i have an article from a magazine that i saved somewhere.
It shows you how to properly use a Mr Clean car wash kit, to filter tap.
they talked about how high the ppm is in the tap over there in soCal. whew!!
 

wormdrive66

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"Its just that there are alot of info's out there that say stay away from doing that."

It probably says if you are a beginner do not use RO water. I have used tap water and had good results, but when I switched to RO, I immediately noticed the plants were happier than with tap. IMO . Sometimes its good to make mistakes then you uderstand how to avoid problems and have greater success.
 
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