Gun Laws - Change Is Coming

TheMan13

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One shoots very powerful (deadly) rounds and has been used by the US military for decades. Is that the one that should be banned by these proposed gun laws? Do the "looks" of a weapon make them inherently more dangerous to our society so much that we must enact even more laws here?
 

st0wandgrow

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One shoots very powerful (deadly) rounds and has been used by the US military for decades. Is that the one that should be banned by these proposed gun laws? Do the "looks" of a weapon make them inherently more dangerous to our society so much that we must enact even more laws here?
I'm going to duck out of this thread. Not long ago I would have lit you up after trotting out the childish "fucktard" stuff, but I really don't have the desire to waste any more of my time on you, so the last word is yours .....
 

TheMan13

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Brother, honestly we need to sit down, burn one and chat about growing or anything else. I'm sure we have plenty in common to have productive interesting conversations about :bigjoint:

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stumpjumper

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I think as long as Rick Ross can roll around with a choppa in his caw, I should be able to too... Since he already has one I should be able to go buy one tomorrow.
 

TheMan13

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stopping is one thing, but a decrease is more realistic goal. did a decrease occur?
No, many now unarmed law abiding citizens were murdered at a staggering rate by armed criminals. I believe that DC obtained the #1 death by hand gun title in the US during this time while I was living there. Same story in Chicago, I believe they have now overtaken DC in gun crimes. This experiment is over IMO.
 

olylifter420

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According to gun control nuts they do.

I wonder what gun control nuts say when people look different then them



One shoots very powerful (deadly) rounds and has been used by the US military for decades. Is that the one that should be banned by these proposed gun laws? Do the "looks" of a weapon make them inherently more dangerous to our society so much that we must enact even more laws here?
 

olylifter420

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Im glad our government wants to weaken us more. Does anyone think mexican cartels will invade the border states once they take our rights away?
 

TheMan13

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Just to clear up the confusion on those two pics I had offered:

The AR15 is simply a civilian (semi-auto) version of the M16 made by Colt Arms for our US military mostly used for target type sport here in the US. It shoots a relatively weak (.223) round not even adequate for deer hunting. The military grade weapon, the M16, is an automatic weapon which put exponentially more rounds down range justifying it's military grade (aka cover fire).

The M24 sniper rifle made by Remington Arms on the other hand was designed for and has been used by the US Military on battlefields around the globe for decades. It shoots the very powerful 7.62 round for effortless one shot kills and puts the fear of God into well armed and vested thugs.

http://www.remingtonle.com/rifles/m24.htm

This same weapon is used by the US Olympic Team ...
 

stumpjumper

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Yeah it's used to put food on the table too.

I can defend myself with any gun but I look at it like, shouldn't we be able to arm ourselves to be on an equal level of any intruders we might have to face? What if Russia, China and North Korea all invaded the USA in the next 50 years.. I would then need a weapon capable of fighting an enemy.. Red Dawn style lol..

Bunch of crazy motherfuckrs these days, but banning guns will not solve anything. IMO the sane people should be buying more guns... Did you see the attackers picture? You can tell he's psycho just looking at him. This is his mothers fault for him even knowing HOW to access those fucking guns..

If she was alive and the blame could go on her, she'd be getting some heat right now and there would be less attention on this weapon debate. Obama is taking advantage of this tragedy to push it right through.
 

mrbungle79

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gonna chime in one last time here. i've mentioned about locking up your weapons but i guess i've overlooked one sad fact about this tragedy, the coward was 20. long as he had no criminal history or mental health history(documented) he could have bought those weapons himself. wouldn't have made a difference had his mother kept them on the coffee table or a gun safe. he could have gone to cabelas and walked out with ar in hand
 

colonuggs

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gonna chime in one last time here. i've mentioned about locking up your weapons but i guess i've overlooked one sad fact about this tragedy, the coward was 20. long as he had no criminal history or mental health history(documented) he could have bought those weapons himself. wouldn't have made a difference had his mother kept them on the coffee table or a gun safe. he could have gone to cabelas and walked out with ar in hand
If his mother didnt own them...he could not have purchsed them...legally

he had to be over 21 to buy a handgun.and ARs cant be purchased from a dealer in Conn.

Permit and certificate applicants must pass state and national criminal history record checks and meet other criteria in law. Ineligible applicants include convicted felons, illegal aliens, and anyone (1) under age 21; (2) under a court protective or restraining order for using, attempting, or threatening to use force against someone; or (3) discharged into the community in the preceding 20 years after having been found not guilty of a crime by reason of mental disease or defect

Assault weapons are illegal. People cannot legally buy them or (with one minor exception) bring them into Connecticut. But people who owned assault weapons before October 1, 1993 and registered them with the Department of Public Safety (DPS) before October 1, 1994 can keep them, and dispose of them, under prescribed circumstances


Today a dude just got out of jail in colorado for domestic violance....few hrs later his girlfriend her sister and brother all dead from a hand gun...then he killed himself.

dont blame the handgun...you would be reading about a man taking a bat or knife or light the house on fire...where thers a will theres a way
 

hammer21

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My thought is everyone carry a gun. There are to many guns to go any other direction. See or hear of a nut job shoot the person end of problem. Just my 2 cents.
 

mrbungle79

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If his mother didnt own them...he could not have purchsed them...legally

he had to be over 21 to buy a handgun.and ARs cant be purchased from a dealer in Conn.



Today a dude just got out of jail in colorado for domestic violance....few hrs later his girlfriend her sister and brother all dead from a hand gun...then he killed himself.

dont blame the handgun...you would be reading about a man taking a bat or knife or light the house on fire...where thers a will theres a way
ok i'll give ya that. i was thinking mich law not conn but there are loopholes pertaining to the assault weapon ban which i won't get into at the moment but ar aside he could still have gotten a shotgun legally or a rifle and added high cap mags and other goodies. and if you've read any of my other posts then you also know where i stand on owning weapons and keeping my family protected. you are absolutely correct "where theres a will theres a way"
 

treetopmmmp

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gonna chime in one last time here. i've mentioned about locking up your weapons but i guess i've overlooked one sad fact about this tragedy, the coward was 20. long as he had no criminal history or mental health history(documented) he could have bought those weapons himself. wouldn't have made a difference had his mother kept them on the coffee table or a gun safe. he could have gone to cabelas and walked out with ar in hand

He tried and was turned down. Also his mom was going to
try and have him committed to a mental institution so there
may of been some type of record of a mental health problem
which would have prevented him from buying. If his mom would
have lived, she should be thrown in jail. She knew her son was
fucked up and she left gun accessible to him. She should have
had them removed from the home or at the very least, have
ad a damn nice gun case/vault that would have prevented the
piece of shit from getting her guns.

http://www.latimes.com/news/nation/nationnow/la-na-nn-sandy-hook-gunman-tried-to-buy-rifile-days-before-20121215,0,5913090.story

Suspect in massacre tried to buy rifle days before, sources say



By Richard A. Serrano and Alana Semuels December 15, 2012, 10:46 a.m.

NEWTOWN, Conn. -- Adam Lanza, the suspect in the suburban Connecticut elementary school shooting rampage, tried to purchase a "long gun" rifle from a local shop but was turned away because he did not want to wait for the required 14-day background check, law enforcement sources said Saturday.
As this western Connecticut town continued to seek a way of coping with the grief from Friday’s shooting that left 28 people dead, including the gunman and his mother, officials pressed their search into how and why one of the worst massacres in U.S. history took place.
Officials have yet to name the gunman but law enforcement sources have said he was Adam Lanza, 20. He reportedly killed his mother, Nancy, in the home they shared, stole several weapons and went to Sandy Hook Elementary School, where he shot and killed 20 children and six adults before killing himself, law enforcement sources said.
PHOTOS: Connecticut school shooting
Just days before the school shooting, Adam Lanza attempted to purchase a single “long gun” rifle from a local gun store but was turned away because he did not want to wait for the required 14-day background check, according to two federal law enforcement officials.
Sources said he entered the store “earlier in the week” in the Newtown area and inquired about buying one rifle. He was only 20 years old, and did not have a permit for firearms, and was told about a 14-day background check that would have to be done, the sources said.
“He didn’t want to wait the 14 days,” said one source, declining to be identified because the case is still under review. “So they denied him. The sale did not take place.”
FULL COVERAGE: Connecticut school shooting
When Adam Lanza left the house, he took a Bushmaster .223 rifle and two handguns -- a Glock 9-millimeter and a Sig Sauer semiautomatic, law enforcement sources said. He left the rifle in the back seat of his mother's car, which he used to drive to the school. Both handguns were fired in the attack, sources said.
His divorced parents also owned three other “single-action rifles,” but it remained unclear how much access Adam Lanza had to those firearms and whether it was his mother or father who possessed the weapons, the sources said.
Authorities, meanwhile, are still putting together a comprehensive trace on all the weapons.
“We know the manufacturers, and are pretty sure when they were purchased,” a source said. “But the trace is not complete yet.”
Memorial services began Friday evening and continued on Saturday. But impromptu commemorations have begun popping up in and around Newtown.
At the center of town, where the street to the school is still closed by police, causing traffic jams, someone had created a "Flag of Honor" -- an American flag with the numbers 1 through 27 written in blue on small slips of paper.
“Say a prayer” was written on a piece of cardboard nearby.
On two brick buildings in the center of town, cloth banners flew.
“Hug a teacher today,” one read, taped to the building with red tape. “God bless sandy hook,” another said, with a gold heart under it.
A blue Mickey Mouse ball sat under a large tree nearby, decorated with Christmas lights.
“We will love you all forever and ever,” it said, with a frowny face drawn on it crying tears.
“It's just hard to believe,” said Megan Olszewski, a freshman in high school, checking out the memorial with her older brother Daniel. “This town is never going to be the same.”

Serrano reported from Washington and Semuels reported from Newtown.

Copyright © 2012, Los Angeles Time
 

TheMan13

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Laws are only observed by law abiding citizens. A psychopath IS NOT a law abiding citizen and NO gun law will solve that problem. Gun laws are a relatively new political phenomenon that have now proven not only an utter failure, but with the unintended consequence of the innocent murdered with a false sense of security provided by same. Prohibition of any sort has NEVER removed ANYTHING from society, but simply creates a black market unregulated by same.
 
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