Science behind chemical nutrients and flushing???

[theexpress]

chemical fertilizers are harsh ass "inorganic salts".... they have to be flushed out... anyone who cant tell the difrence between that and properly grown weed might as well be smoking mexican brick weed... or commercial canadian hydro... aka beasters... those two come to mind has the main violators of the chemmy ass buds.. along with any other domestic grower who doesnt flush and cure.... i even flush and cure if im growing all organic still...

 

[cannabineer]

the most importent part of that was the very first few lines....


One thing that can be difficult for people to understand is the study of organic molecules and carbon atoms. Organic molecules are molecules of the living world. These molecules contain both carbon and hydrogen, while inorganic molecules, such as H2O, do not.

No actually. Organic chemicals are carbon compounds, and almost all carbon compounds are counted as organic. Interestingly, the one the plant uses (carbon dioxide) is inorganic, even if it all came through an animal or plant. cn

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Compounds_of_carbon#Inorganic_compounds

 

[theexpress]

Even in an organic grow, all the nutrient molecules are inorganic (by the chemist's definition). There's no carbon atom inserted anywhere. Nutrient precursors can indeed be organic (e.g. phospholipids or amino acids) but for the plant to use them, microbial action has to first knock them down to the old classics: nitrate, phosphate etc. cn

yeah i know what ur saying... to dumb it down for everyone to understand better = when u feed chem. nutes your feeding your plant... when your going organic your feeding the beneificial bacteria in your soil who in turn feed your plant..thats why it takes a few days atleast for your plant to feel the nutes... while harsh ass shit like urea nitrogen shows affect much faster

 

[theexpress]

bottom line is organic is cleaner them chemical nutes.... while chemical grown bud that is flushed and cured properlywill never burn or taste has clean has all organic flushed and cured bud.. and anyone who cant tell the diffrence between the two is a fool, and if they think flushing and curing does nothing at all thats even more foolish.. i mean its not just me. this is not just some idea i popped out with the best growers in the world swear by this too and i know it to be true so im sticking with it.

 

[cannabineer]

yeah i know what ur saying... to dumb it down for everyone to understand better = when u feed chem. nutes your feeding your plant... when your going organic your feeding the beneificial bacteria in your soil who in turn feed your plant..thats why it takes a few days atleast for your plant to feel the nutes... while harsh ass shit like urea nitrogen shows affect much faster

Personally I avoid urea nitrogen like the plague ... and ammoniac nitrogen as much as possible. The plant does store those, and it can have the results you've described. Ammonium salts were used as flame retardants. cn

 

[theexpress]

yes i know.... as those two forms of nitrogen are the most common what do you use for nitrogen then?

 

[cannabineer]

yes i know.... as those two forms of nitrogen are the most common what do you use for nitrogen then?

Calcium and potassium nitrates. The calcium nitrate of commerce has a 10:1 nitrate to ammonium ratio, so isn't quite "clean" in that regard.
I have used ammonium nitrate as an "emergency N boost", but promptly overdid it. cn

 

[theexpress]

Calcium and potassium nitrates. The calcium nitrate of commerce has a 10:1 nitrate to ammonium ratio, so isn't quite "clean" in that regard.
I have used ammonium nitrate as an "emergency N boost", but promptly overdid it. cn

the good thing about chemical nutes is they show you when you used too much on them they let u know that much more quicker then organics do.. ands it soo much easier to flush the soil of chem. nutes then organic ones..

 

[potpimp]

Scientifically, you flush because you stunk up the bathroom. That's the only time you should flush. Geez, these pot myths are sooooooo hard to overcome.

 

[theexpress]

Scientifically, you flush because you stunk up the bathroom. That's the only time you should flush. Geez, these pot myths are sooooooo hard to overcome.

not you too????? do you honestly beleave that curing and flushing are mythes?

 

[potpimp]

Not the curing part. I've just never been convinced that flushing does anything significant. The best tasting weed I've ever smoked was not flushed.

 

[theexpress]

Not the curing part. I've just never been convinced that flushing does anything significant. The best tasting weed I've ever smoked was not flushed.

maybe that strain was just super tastey... guess what.. it would have tasted better cured bro lolol

 

[cannabineer]

maybe that strain was just super tastey... guess what.. it would have tasted better cured bro lolol

I think the 'pimp is saying he's hip to curing. I also believe in the value of a good slow cure, but i agree almost entirely with him about flushing. I do see it as useful for washing out a salt buildup in the soil. I had to do that halfway through my soil grow last year. cn