Israeli bombing of Hamas leader. Rub it in their face why don't you... VIDEO

[Dr Kynes]

Maybe I'm gonna show my age here, but I remember the Six-Day War, 1967 I believe, where everyone around Israel attacked her all at once, and she kicked all their butts. You wanna talk God's Intervention? There was no rational way for that little sand spit to survive, and all the people there should have been killed or subjugated to one Muslim power or another. Yeah, America was flying in tons of supplies, but in 1967, there was only so much we could have done, it happened so fast.

I also remember who were the great champions of Israel, the people who helped birth her over Britain's objection, who called my dad an anti-Semite Nazi because he made the mistake of asking 'what about the people who are already there?' In this country, it was hard core, left-wing Liberals, who made no apologies for the bombing of the King David Hotel that killed hundreds of British officers, and cheered Israel declaring itself independent when the UN got cold feet and started waffling. Israel was championed by the Liberal press of the day, a passionate guilt trip about the Holocaust and how we didn't do anything to stop it. I'm still at a loss what we could have done, when we barely were able to land on the beaches of Normandy and the Soviets had ten times more troops and resources than the Allies, and yet we barely were able to defeat the Nazis. Something about history that you must remember, you're living history now, and when you look at history, you have to remember those are people, too. It plays out with all the bumps and moments shaping things that certainly appear inevitable at the moment, and yet we can look back and very philosophically ask "What the Fuck". The creation of Israel was a massive crusade that was shoved forward and spoken about as 'inevitable'. By Liberals, by the Left of the Western World. Israel exists because of the Western Liberals of the day.

While I'm rambling, There are three books that I have read that debate and codify the premise of 'Racism', each of them preaching it with religious passion. 'Birth of a Nation', the story of the Ku Klux Klan, in a very positive light, would be made into the first movie ever to be considered a feature-length work of art, and that is still studied today for its ground-breaking techniques. It was both a symptom, but also a powerful influencing force for White Supremacy of America well into the fifties. The second, 'The Turner Diaries', I consider the most practical codification of White Racism you could possibly get. All the while claiming to be Christian, its fundamental premise is either Hindu or Animist, where you don't have an individual soul. Instead there is a Race Soul. You never die, but are always contained within all pure white people everywhere. The Nation of Islam believes this as well, although it switches around to whomever they're talking to.

The third book is Genesis, a novel about the birth of Israel. I just tried to Google it, but there's so many novels with that title that I lost patience, but it had to have been published in the early 1960's. It goes into the rationale for the birth of the Jewish State, with the Holocaust being the last straw. The description of Muslims and Arabs is as racist as anything that appears in either one of those other books. It would ultimately be turned into a movie, with the Muslims and Jews dancing and fighting together against the Godless Arabs amongst them, but even that came off ultimately bigoted.

nope. you remember it all wrong. the liberals and democrats of the 60's were kind gentle non-racists who didnt have the negroes firehosed, attacked by dogs and beaten by Daly's corrupt cops in chicago, they didnt try to stop the civil rights act, and certainly never supported the vietnam war...

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cool, now that we got that all sorted out, you may now continue hating them jews on behalf of their palestinian victims.

also the king david hotel bombing racked up a total of 91 dead, only 40 or so were british officers, and 12 were israelis in custody for being agitators.

 

[Dr Kynes]

Hers,You want to know what I remember about 1967?That year G*d blinded Iraeli eyes and attacked a US destroyer,letting 35 die and didn't mount a rescue when they realized that "mistake" for an Egyptian transport ship half the size and different profile!

in a war zone people get trigger happy.
sad but true.
and the innocent are spared not the thunderbolt.

 

[Canna Sylvan]

Doc,
You sure it wasn't a, "fuck you! We don't take too kindly to your not sucking our cock as lovingly anymore!"? Naw, we love each other. They're not a people with a persecution complex. Me thinks Israel smokes too much weed.

 

[Padawanbater2]

i would encourage you to look at the image provided in that fervid exhortation to embrace the cause of the PLO and hamas. the territory shown on the blood soaked map beneath the bloody handshake shows israel in tan, the west bank in white, but "SHOCKINGLY" israel is labeled "Palestin"

this is not a mistiak, this is a deliberate "dogwhistle" which ties directly to the hamas charter and their insistence that isarael be destroyed, and the sniveling sophistry of "Regime Change" is just a fig leaf to conceal the real goal, driving the jews into the sea.
that was hamas' hezzbollah, islamic jihad and the plo's stated aim 20 years ago, and it still is today.
all their talk of peace is still, as it was 20 years ago, taqqiya. strategic lies for the advancement of their goals. nothing more. thats all the article copy/pasted is, and all the manufactured outrage has ever been.

thats why i find it impossible to be "compassionate" or "empathetic" to the palestinian cause. nothing is ever what it seems, and the palestinian leaders in all their militant organizations have only a nodding acquaintance with the truth.
for them, "truth" is just deceptive factoids which can be taken out of context, or placed in a new one to suit their narrative.
if you were an israeli facing the prospect of living under a moslem theocratic regime installed by these clowns, you would not be nearly so eager to embrace their bullshit, or weep for their losses.
you'd be worrying about your own family and how you could get them out, to the west before the "gentle sensitive victims" got their REAL AND NOT IMAGINARY genocide rolling.

What exactly do you base this on? Can you provide quotes or clips from Hamas' leaders saying the entire nation of Israel, including it's population and not just its government, should be "pushed into the sea"?

Everything I've read/seen says otherwise.

The Palestinians were kicked out of their territory, the Israelis built settlements and installed check points and road blocks and confined them to the West Bank and the Gaza Strip, now they face discrimination and abuse on a daily basis, so they democratically elected a group to deal with the problem. They've tried the diplomatic approach only to be threatened with violence.. I mean, there is simply no other option for these people. Israel refuses to recognize them or address the issue. They're an oppressed people in a world with no voice. They're forced into this situation.

I just saw a Palestinian journalist tell an American reporter working for Vice "if we had a military, we wouldn't send rockets into Israel, the goal isn't to harm the civilians, we just have no ability to fight back". It's exactly like any other insurgency, Iraq, Afghanistan, if AQ or the Taliban had the ability to fight the American military, they would. They simply don't.

I really don't know what people expect.. Take their land, take their voice, take away any ability to fix it... this is what you end up with..

 

[jumpin' buffalo]

Yea this is going to quell the violence by plastering videos everywhere[video=youtube;FhX3NFkMCl4]http://www.youtube.com/watch?feature=player_detailpage&v=FhX3NFkMCl4[/video]

The Unintimidated Press just published an ironclad case why American aid to Israel is unconstitutional:[url=http://www.unintimidatedpress.com/unconstitutional.htm

 

[Dr Kynes]

What exactly do you base this on? Can you provide quotes or clips from Hamas' leaders saying the entire nation of Israel, including it's population and not just its government, should be "pushed into the sea"?

Everything I've read/seen says otherwise.

The Palestinians were kicked out of their territory, the Israelis built settlements and installed check points and road blocks and confined them to the West Bank and the Gaza Strip, now they face discrimination and abuse on a daily basis, so they democratically elected a group to deal with the problem. They've tried the diplomatic approach only to be threatened with violence.. I mean, there is simply no other option for these people. Israel refuses to recognize them or address the issue. They're an oppressed people in a world with no voice. They're forced into this situation.

I just saw a Palestinian journalist tell an American reporter working for Vice "if we had a military, we wouldn't send rockets into Israel, the goal isn't to harm the civilians, we just have no ability to fight back". It's exactly like any other insurgency, Iraq, Afghanistan, if AQ or the Taliban had the ability to fight the American military, they would. They simply don't.

I really don't know what people expect.. Take their land, take their voice, take away any ability to fix it... this is what you end up with..

the Hanas charter: ~http://www.thejerusalemfund.org/www.thejerusalemfund.org/carryover/documents/charter.html

Part III - Strategies and Methods

Article Eleven: The Strategy of Hamas: Palestine is an Islamic Waqf
The Islamic Resistance Movement believes that the land of Palestine has been an Islamic Waqf throughout the generations and until the Day of Resurrection, no one can renounce it or part of it, or abandon it or part of it. No Arab country nor the aggregate of all Arab countries, and no Arab King or President nor all of them in the aggregate, have that right, nor has that right any organization or the aggregate of all organizations, be they Palestinian or Arab, because Palestine is an Islamic Waqf throughout all generations and to the Day of Resurrection. Who can presume to speak for all Islamic Generations to the Day of Resurrection? This is the status [of the land] in Islamic Shari’a, and it is similar to all lands conquered by Islam by force, and made thereby Waqf lands upon their conquest, for all generations of Muslims until the Day of Resurrection. This [norm] has prevailed since the commanders of the Muslim armies completed the conquest of Syria and Iraq, and they asked the Caliph of Muslims, ‘Umar Ibn al-Khattab, for his view of the conquered land, whether it should be partitioned between the troops or left in the possession of its population, or otherwise. Following discussions and consultations between the Caliph of Islam, ‘Umar Ibn al-Khattab, and the Companions of the Messenger of Allah, be peace and prayer upon him, they decided that the land should remain in the hands of its owners to benefit from it and from its wealth; but the control of the land and the land itself ought to be endowed as a Waqf [in perpetuity] for all generations of Muslims until the Day of Resurrection. The ownership of the land by its owners is only one of usufruct, and this Waqf will endure as long as Heaven and earth last. Any demarche in violation of this law of Islam, with regard to Palestine, is baseless and reflects on its perpetrators. Article Twelve: Hamas in Palestine, Its Views on Homeland and Nationalism
Hamas regards Nationalism (Wataniyya) as part and parcel of the religious faith. Nothing is loftier or deeper in Nationalism than waging Jihad against the enemy and confronting him when he sets foot on the land of the Muslims. And this becomes an individual duty binding on every Muslim man and woman; a woman must go out and fight the enemy even without her husband’s authorization, and a slave without his masters’ permission. This [principle] does not exist under any other regime, and it is a truth not to be questioned. While other nationalisms consist of material, human and territorial considerations, the nationality of Hamas also carries, in addition to all those, the all important divine factors which lend to it its spirit and life; so much so that it connects with the origin of the spirit and the source of life and raises in the skies of the Homeland the Banner of the Lord, thus inexorably connecting earth with Heaven. When Moses came and threw his baton, sorcery and sorcerers became futile.
Article Thirteen: Peaceful Solutions, [Peace] Initiatives and International Conferences
[Peace] initiatives, the so-called peaceful solutions, and the international conferences to resolve the Palestinian problem, are all contrary to the beliefs of the Islamic Resistance Movement. For renouncing any part of Palestine means renouncing part of the religion; the nationalism of the Islamic Resistance Movement is part of its faith, the movement educates its members to adhere to its principles and to raise the banner of Allah over their homeland as they fight their Jihad: “Allah is the all-powerful, but most people are not aware.” From time to time a clamoring is voiced, to hold an International Conference in search for a solution to the problem. Some accept the idea, others reject it, for one reason or another, demanding the implementation of this or that condition, as a prerequisite for agreeing to convene the Conference or for participating in it. But the Islamic Resistance Movement, which is aware of the [prospective] parties to this conference, and of their past and present positions towards the problems of the Muslims, does not believe that those conferences are capable of responding to demands, or of restoring rights or doing justice to the oppressed. Those conferences are no more than a means to appoint the nonbelievers as arbitrators in the lands of Islam. Since when did the Unbelievers do justice to the Believers? “And the Jews will not be pleased with thee, nor will the Christians, till thou follow their creed. Say: Lo! the guidance of Allah [himself] is the Guidance. And if you should follow their desires after the knowledge which has come unto thee, then you would have from Allah no protecting friend nor helper.” Sura 2 (the Cow), verse 120 There is no solution to the Palestinian problem except by Jihad. The initiatives, proposals and International Conferences are but a waste of time, an exercise in futility. The Palestinian people are too noble to have their future, their right and their destiny submitted to a vain game. As the hadith has it: “The people of Syria are Allah’s whip on this land; He takes revenge by their intermediary from whoever he wished among his worshipers. The Hypocrites among them are forbidden from vanquishing the true believers, and they will die in anxiety and sorrow.” (Told by Tabarani, who is traceable in ascending order of traditionaries to Muhammad, and by Ahmed whose chain of transmission is incomplete. But it is bound to be a true hadith, for both story tellers are reliable. Allah knows best.)


i know,, TLDR but its writ that way for exactly that reason. ill sum up:

"palestine" is all the lands called that since the territory was first conquered by islam
once any land has gone islam (by conversion of by conquest) it can never be anything else
nothing can change that. EVER EVER EVER!
anyone who tries to change "palestine's" essential islamicness is a "sorcerer" and sorcery is forbidden by allah.

and finally quoted again, cuz its like, sorta relevant:
"Article Thirteen: Peaceful Solutions, [Peace] Initiatives and International Conferences
[Peace] initiatives, the so-called peaceful solutions, and the international conferences to resolve the Palestinian problem, are all contrary to the beliefs of the Islamic Resistance Movement."

and this is straight from hamas, the actual "palestinian authority"

the people of "palestine" were not "kicked out", the british mandate (territory taken in the surrender of the ottomans at the end of ww2, and retained on account of the ottoman aggression as reparations) was transferred by sovereign uthority to the new "State of Israel" after the brits bought up the land from the current legitimate owners within that land. the only people actually forced to move were tenants, renters, squatters and NON PALESTINE RESIDENT who had rushed in from the surrounding region to take advantage of the construction boom being brought on by jewish immigration and the attendant building of a nascent nation. since the "stealing of palestinian land", (wich charges were vigorously investigated and found baseless) never occurred, the lie has become a meme. endlessly recycled by those who profit by it's repetition. those arab and hashemite persons (moslem and christian and druze and zoroastrian, and anything else you can imagine) who were not mortified by the thought of living in a JEWiSH STAE!!!!????!!!! were free to stay and become israelis. and a great many moslem took the sizeable moneys offered for their land and left to start new lives with their fat sacks of jew gold for worthless desert. a few of the other groups. most of the Druze and nearly ALL of the christians stayed and they and their descendants are israelies today. meanwhile, the tenants, renters squatters and imigrant arabs moved into the west bank and set up their "refugee camps" demanding they be GIVEN lands to replace the ones they never owned and have kept up the fiction ever since.

gaza was GIVEN to egypt at the same time because it's high population of arabs and it's generally egyptian characer made that a natural fit. egypt lost that shit in war last time and then REFUSED to have it back. turns out gazans are a pain in the ass to manage even if youre not a jew

the west bank was intended to be an arab run state all itself, the legendary "palestine", but the jordanians annexed the territory on their way to attack israel. israel took it back, and then the jordanians also refused to have that shit back either. they didnt want to have to house the "refugee" camps and their bullshit in their land, and the arabs, who made up the majority of the "refugeees" have a long and bloody history with the hashemites too. go figure. ]

as far as demands for israel to be destroyed... yeah theres a shitload. and all by names youll recognize or people in high places in various islamic governemnts and organizations. lets ride:

"The end of Israel is the goal of our struggle, and it allows for neither compromise nor mediation... We don't want peace. We want war, victory." (Yasser Arafat, 1972)

"The Palestine National Council, in the name of God, and in the name of the Palestinian Arab people, proclaims the establishment of the state of Palestine on our Palestinian land, with Jerusalem as its capital." (Yasser Arafat, 15 November 198

​

"I personally wish that the Jews do not drive us to this war, as this will be a war of extermination and momentous massacre which will be spoken of like the Tartar massacre or the Crusader wars. I believe that the number of volunteers from outside Palestine will be larger than Palestine's Arab population, for I know that volunteers will be arriving to us from [as far as] India, Afghanistan, and China to win the honor of martyrdom for the sake of Palestine ... You might be surprised to learn that hundreds of Englishmen expressed their wish to volunteer in the Arab armies to fight the Jews." ~ "A War of Extermination", Mustafa Amin, Akhbar al-Yom, October 11, 1947
"We shall try to defeat you. I am not sure we'll succeed, but we'll try. We were able to drive out the Crusaders, but on the other hand we lost Spain and Persia. It may be that we shall lose Palestine. But it's too late to talk of peaceful solutions. ~Abdul Rahman Hassan Azzam (Pasha Azzam) Secretary General of the Arab League at the time of this quote.

the PLO charter:
Article 15: The liberation of Palestine, from an Arab viewpoint, is a national (qawmi) duty and it attempts to repel the Zionist and imperialist aggression against the Arab homeland, and aims at the elimination of Zionism in Palestine. Absolute responsibility for this falls upon the Arab nation - peoples and governments - with the Arab people of Palestine in the vanguard. Accordingly, the Arab nation must mobilize all its military, human, moral, and spiritual capabilities to participate actively with the Palestinian people in the liberation of Palestine. It must, particularly in the phase of the armed Palestinian revolution, offer and furnish the Palestinian people with all possible help, and material and human support, and make available to them the means and opportunities that will enable them to continue to carry out their leading role in the armed revolution, until they liberate their homeland.(Note, however, that the PLO's translation sometimes deviates from the original Arabic so as to be more palatable to Western readers. For example, in Article 15, the Arabic is translated as "the elimination of Zionism," whereas the correct translation is "the liquidation of the Zionist presence." "The Zionist presence" is a common Arabic euphemism for the State of Israel, so this clause in fact calls for the destruction of Israel, not just the end of Zionism.) ~ http://www.netaxs.com/~iris/plochart.htm

"Peace deals with israel are a game of grand deception" ~Mufti Mohammed Badei http://www.jihadwatch.org/2012/11/egypt-muslim-brotherhood-cleric-calls-for-jihad-against-israel-says-peace-deals-are-game-of-grand-de.html

and that just took a few minutes to round up.

you may wish that the palestinians were simple peaceful farmers, harlmess goathereders and innocent cobblers placed under the yoke of israeli oppression but it just aint so.
you may wish that all people could join hands and sing "free at last" but it aint happening as long as the pallies have a stated aim of exerminating the jews in "palestine"
you may wish that we could all just give peace a chance

but if wishes were fishes we weould all eat well this winter.

 

[FOUR20 SWG]

in a war zone people get trigger happy.
sad but true.
and the innocent are spared not the thunderbolt.

So, from the 70's up until now we've spent nearly $300billion on Israeli aid (a certain percentage of which they take and invest in domestic arms production) and now what do we have to show for it? Some rabidly conservative NetanYAHOO administration whackos beating the drums for war while they pocket sidecash from the local weapons manufacturers with whom they have a very cozy relationship. They profit from war, so why would they call for peace? Then they fan the flames by playing to the Zionist cause and wrapping it up in their warmachine, and voila! You have a recipe for $$.

With our nation's economy doing so poorly, do you agree or disagree with continueing to fund them while we can barely afford shit over here?

Borrowing money from China to support Israel makes no sense.

 

[Dr Kynes]

So, from the 70's up until now we've spent nearly $300billion on Israeli aid (a certain percentage of which they take and invest in domestic arms production) and now what do we have to show for it? Some rabidly conservative NetanYAHOO administration whackos beating the drums for war while they pocket sidecash from the local weapons manufacturers with whom they have a very cozy relationship. They profit from war, so why would they call for peace? Then they fan the flames by playing to the Zionist cause and wrapping it up in their warmachine, and voila! You have a recipe for $$.

With our nation's economy doing so poorly, do you agree or disagree with continueing to fund them while we can barely afford shit over here?

Borrowing money from China to support Israel makes no sense.

again with the begging of the question.

it is not yet the season to go a-wassailin' so youll get no cider or whiskey from me tonight.

your disingenuous demands of fiscal responisbility only apply to the things you want to see destroyed (like israel) and not those things you claim to love (like fat stacks of cash in amounts un counted for the pallies) and thus your attempts to shift the debate to a fiscal pissing match fails on it's face.

you are a hypocrite, and not very skilled at trolling, much less reasoned debate.

holding a positon contrary to your own does not demand justification, nor is your own position sufficiently well reasoned as to justify itself.
i do not feel the need to submit to your every demand for answers particularly since yo never respond too my own requests for you to clarify EXACTLY what your position is.
but that makes sense, you dont have a position, you have FEELINGS, and those FEELINGS are mostly ones of superiority, unwarranted self confidence and preening self-interest.

 

[FOUR20 SWG]

again with the begging of the question.

it is not yet the season to go a-wassailin' so youll get no cider or whiskey from me tonight.

your disingenuous demands of fiscal responisbility only apply to the things you want to see destroyed (like israel) and not those things you claim to love (like fat stacks of cash in amounts un counted for the pallies) and thus your attempts to shift the debate to a fiscal pissing match fails on it's face.

you are a hypocrite, and not very skilled at trolling, much less reasoned debate.

holding a positon contrary to your own does not demand justification, nor is your own position sufficiently well reasoned as to justify itself.
i do not feel the need to submit to your every demand for answers particularly since yo never respond too my own requests for you to clarify EXACTLY what your position is.
but that makes sense, you dont have a position, you have FEELINGS, and those FEELINGS are mostly ones of superiority, unwarranted self confidence and preening self-interest.

I was asking about you Kynes. And you have never heard me argue against being fiscally responsible, so that's another fail for ya.

Do you think we should continue to fund Israel with borrowed money from China?

 

[FOUR20 SWG]

Just because you don't want to answer, doesn't mean it's trolling.

I want to hear if you can actually justify the billions of dollars we're planning on giving to an already well-established nation that hasn't been the victim of some terrible natural disaster.

 

[cannabineer]

Just because you don't want to answer, doesn't mean it's trolling.

I want to hear if you can actually justify the billions of dollars we're planning on giving to an already well-established nation that hasn't been the victim of some terrible natural disaster.

The realtor's trinity: location. cn

 

[abandonconflict]

Just because you don't want to answer, doesn't mean it's trolling.

I want to hear if you can actually justify the billions of dollars we're planning on giving to an already well-established nation that hasn't been the victim of some terrible natural disaster.

His answer was that the pallies get "fat stacks of cash". I think that is all you're going to get from him.

 

[FOUR20 SWG]

His answer was that the pallies get "fat stacks of cash". I think that is all you're going to get from him.

He's furiously typing a 2 page diatribe that still manages to side-step the question as we speak. And will undoubtedly find a way to try and insult my character again while providing a good summary of his own.

Guaranteed.

 

[cannabineer]

He's furiously typing a 2 page diatribe that still manages to side-step the question as we speak. And will undoubtedly find a way to try and insult my character again while providing a good summary of his own.

Guaranteed.

 

[echelon1k1]

Israeli students to get $2,000 to spread state propaganda on Facebook

"This is our opportunity, as Israeli students, to provide hasbara [state propaganda] that is correct and balanced, to help in the struggle against the delegitimization of the State of Israel and against hatred of Jews in the world"

The following is an article from Times of Israel - Abbas’s statehood bid doesn’t threaten Israel, but the stalled peace process might — internal Foreign Ministry report

It seems there are some level headed thinkers within Israels foreign ministry, even though it's not a formal position paper

 

[Dr Kynes]

His answer was that the pallies get "fat stacks of cash". I think that is all you're going to get from him.

the us the UN the french the brits and in fact pretty much the entire western world give massive handouts to the palestinian authority, pallie refugee relief organizations, various NGO's and whatnot.

and the arab world watches the regugee camps and the pallies and smiles.
they like having this open wound, seeping oozing and festering. it provides opportunity to further their own goals:

the elimination of israel in favour of a moslem theocracy for the moslem religious leaders
an unstable terrorist state, for the radical jihadists to use as a rich source of propaganda and recruits
destruction of israel and the installation of a puppet regime for the moslem power players (egypt iran, syria, etc)
a sweet milk-cow for the criminal element, money launderers and profiteers
a constant reminder that the west doesnt always succeed, for the marxists, pan-arabists, pan-africanists, and pan-asianists to revel in.
a constant source of guilt, shame and pain for the bleeding hearts in the west and the shiftless grasping powerhungry politicians who feed on them
a constant threat to frighten the foolish for the "military industrial complex" to use as proof that they need more contracts and bigger deals.
the Boulder of Sisyphus designed to torment any who actually want to resolve the problems plaguing the region.
a tarbaby to trap and disable any political opponents for any of the above, since no matter what side you choose, half the world will think your an asshole.

everybody has an angle in this conflict, including israel and the pallies, and nobody can do shit to solve the problems as long as the region is used as a setpiece for the various players with no real stake in where the rockets are landing, on either side of the green line wall.

 

[HersbruckerII]

Hers,You want to know what I remember about 1967?That year G*d blinded Iraeli eyes and attacked a US destroyer,letting 35 die and didn't mount a rescue when they realized that "mistake" for an Egyptian transport ship half the size and different profile!

Canna, that was the Liberty, an unarmed American spy ship, not even a war ship, (Well, Okay, an Intelligence Gathering U.S. Navy vessel, much like the Pueblo) off the coast of Israel. It was barely reported by the American Press, because in the eyes of the Liberal American Press, Israel could do no wrong. The Israelis were probably maneuvering their nuclear warheads that the U.S. only suspected existed, and the Liberty might have spotted. Thank God the Israelis chose not to use them. And yeah, Canna, God Has A Weird Sense of Humor.

 

[abandonconflict]

they like having this open wound, seeping oozing and festering.

 

[Dr Kynes]

so explain why no arab nation will accept them, no arab nation gives any of their oil money to their relief organizations, and all the arab nations declare their "solidarity with them, but never actually do shit to help except cheer them on when they foolishly start shit with the region's only real military power, israel.

the arab nations either really want the pallies' "plight" to continue unabated, or they are incredibly stupid and dont know what "solidarity" means.

theres no other option.

 

[abandonconflict]

no arab nation will accept them, no arab nation gives any of their oil money to their relief organizations, and all the arab nations declare their "solidarity with them, but never actually do shit to help

You sure about that?

I agree they should do more, maybe they should not bow to the bullying of those who want Palestine crushed and just go ahead and cross the line and really stand with Palestine. Maybe they would be crushed too, maybe they will be anyway.