Canna Sylvan
Well-Known Member
Haha! I won't fall for them lies. Democrats promote life net programs run by the rich who take more than they give. It's lies I tell you, lies! I'm plugging my ears. La la la la.
Question for Republicans
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lifegoesonbrah
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Republicans:
Corporate welfare is freedom
controlling natural substances is freedom
legislating morality is freedom
controlling foreign nations with military occupation is freedom
our fake convention is freedom
debt is freedom
romney care is freedom cuz it is done at the state level
supporting special interests is freedom
bailouts are freedom
Corporate welfare is freedom
controlling natural substances is freedom
legislating morality is freedom
controlling foreign nations with military occupation is freedom
our fake convention is freedom
debt is freedom
romney care is freedom cuz it is done at the state level
supporting special interests is freedom
bailouts are freedom
lifegoesonbrah
Well-Known Member
controlling our borders and deporting immigrants across our imaginary line is freedom
building the great wall is freedom
detaining american citizens without trial is freedom
searching american citizens at the airport is freedom
building the great wall is freedom
detaining american citizens without trial is freedom
searching american citizens at the airport is freedom
Jogro
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I don't see how that's implied in the original question, but as Vice President Biden might say, ending slavery is a 'big f#cking deal".
More to the point, plenty of living Americans were around in the 1960s when Jim Crow laws were still in effect. . .and backed almost entirely by Democrats.
As to the current crop of Republicans, I agree, they've been weak on "small government". GWB was a particularly egregious offender this way.
Still, its hard to push a "small gov't" agenda, when. . .as was the case for the first two years of the Obama adminstration when most of the increased spending/expansion was done. . . you control 0 for 3 of the Federal gov't branches. What COULD the GOP have done?
Even now, all the GOP has is the house. The Democrat White House still holds has veto power and has been crowing loudly about using it. The Dem majority Senate also effectively holds veto power, and furthermore is deliberately skirting this very issue by having refused to pass a budget in three years.
Ron Paul talks a good game, but I don't see him having passed any "small gov't" initiatives in his years in the House.
If you want effective small gov't programs, that actually HAS happened recently at Republican insistence. . .just at the STATE level.
Canna Sylvan
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Freedom is bombing Libya without congressional approval because they have free:housing and higher education; and we don't.Freedom is a predator drone shooting your ass without a trial.Freedom is locking you up for 80 years over a plant. Freedom, hells ya!
Jogro
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Controlling the borders is a necessary condition for maintaining any Republic.
As to deportations, I'm not even going to bother asking you what the alternative is, but if you're going to point fingers, Obama is the biggest deporter in recent memory. His deportations have FAR outnumbered Bush's; go check for yourself.
See above.
I can see why you're critical of the Obama administration here, but are you aware that Obama isn't actually a Republican?
lifegoesonbrah
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You don't have to give Republicans control to know they don't support freedom, you must have missed all of the primary debates.
Jogro
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Name calling is the resort of people without arguments.
Speaking of, which party is the party of "accusations of racism"?
lifegoesonbrah
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My point isn't that dems support freedom, its that the GOP doesn't either but they base their whole platform around the lie that they do.
You are also ignoring that after the Democrats changed their views ad went along with civil rights, the Jim Crow proponents and racists left and went to the GOP in order to seek revenge and get the Democrats back. This is why the South used to be primarily Democratic but it no longer is.You can try to talk history, but you can't change the facts. Today which party is promoting racism and hatred?
lifegoesonbrah
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There is a difference between controlling the borders and protecting the borders.
Jogro
Well-Known Member
Laws aren't passed during primary debates, nor is policy established.
So, help me out here.
In his 20+ years of Congressional service, which laws has Mr. Paul passed to help "support freedom"?
Canna Sylvan
Well-Known Member
Jogro,
You sure the O-man isn't Republican? He sure likes continuing Republican failures. He's the R candyman! No?
You sure the O-man isn't Republican? He sure likes continuing Republican failures. He's the R candyman! No?
cannabineer
Ursus marijanus
That statement intrigues me. Which would you say is the necessary condition for the other? cn
lifegoesonbrah
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Nothing, because the neocons don't support his ideas of true freedom.
MuyLocoNC
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And we heard the same thing in '08 and then '10 happened...hmmm. Every election the Dems win, immediately represents the final demise of the GOP and clearly demonstrates the need to move to the left. Funny how that works and then an eight or twelve year run by the GOP fucks that theory right up the ass.Still waiting for my new sig London.
lifegoesonbrah
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The Berlin wall is an example of controlling the border, limiting people to move about freely. Protecting the border would be to stop invading armies from entering your country to cause harm to citizens.
cannabineer
Ursus marijanus
Not just the theory, Muy. Much more receives the same rough love. cn
Canna Sylvan
Well-Known Member
I don't support the neocons. I'm a hybrid of the paleo-conservatives and right leaning libertarian. The Democrats would never go that way. With enough of a push the Republicans can.I think they will once the anti-religious revolution hits us like in Europe