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Harrekin
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Its on: http://www.imbarackobamaandismokepotbuticantadmittothatanymorbecauseimadickheadandwillhavethemarrestedtoadvancemypoliticalcareer.com
Fdd, we all know you're a fully signed (unwitting) member of that site.
Fuck Obama and fuck people getting arrested for pot.
(Without any racist sentiment) That Mother-trucker would be THE politician of the quad-century if he just (out of common sense on the cannabis issue) just called a space a fucking spade and said "let the people smoke".
HeartlandHank
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There was a lengthy discussion about government assistance recently. Lots of it was about welfare.
Whenever I have a long discussion with a conservative I usually walk away with seeing at least one thing their way.
I think eliminating some of the abusers of the system would be a good thing. Assuming that there would not be unexpected consequences leading to people who are really in need not getting the help. I would rather see that saved money go to offer even more to those in need.... not cutting taxes. That is where myself and the conservative would disagree.
Whenever I have a long discussion with a conservative I usually walk away with seeing at least one thing their way.
I think eliminating some of the abusers of the system would be a good thing. Assuming that there would not be unexpected consequences leading to people who are really in need not getting the help. I would rather see that saved money go to offer even more to those in need.... not cutting taxes. That is where myself and the conservative would disagree.
mccumcumber
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It is true that many abuse the welfare system, which is too bad because some people actually do benefit from it.
I met a person who worked at a company that had some sort of deal where they would hire a person living in a low income area and the government would pay for their salary for the first year to see if it worked out. Apparently this guy was an amazing worker for the first three months or so, but then all of sudden he had a week of no call no show. When he finally came back he explained that his car had been stolen and that he had been working with the police to get it back. It didn't explain the no call, but it definitely put something into perspective for the man. He ended up moving to a different neighborhood and was able to maintain a job with no mishaps, and is now off of welfare. Pretty uplifting story for welfare.
Unfortunately there is probably an equal amount of abuse stories that go along with these uplifting ones. The question remains, is it worth it? I know if I was in the shits stuck in a ghetto I would appreciate any help I could to get out and try my hardest not to go back. I guess some people are just comfortable in the ghetto, which is really what the problem is.
I met a person who worked at a company that had some sort of deal where they would hire a person living in a low income area and the government would pay for their salary for the first year to see if it worked out. Apparently this guy was an amazing worker for the first three months or so, but then all of sudden he had a week of no call no show. When he finally came back he explained that his car had been stolen and that he had been working with the police to get it back. It didn't explain the no call, but it definitely put something into perspective for the man. He ended up moving to a different neighborhood and was able to maintain a job with no mishaps, and is now off of welfare. Pretty uplifting story for welfare.
Unfortunately there is probably an equal amount of abuse stories that go along with these uplifting ones. The question remains, is it worth it? I know if I was in the shits stuck in a ghetto I would appreciate any help I could to get out and try my hardest not to go back. I guess some people are just comfortable in the ghetto, which is really what the problem is.
sync0s
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liberal county, mn. I shouldn't have moved here.
didn't you collect SSDI checks and then hop on your skidoo, FDD?
i broke my leg and was required to apply for ssdi in order to continue receiving my state medical benefits. i now am fully employed and pay into ssdi every pay check. and yes, i rode my seadoo while on ssdi. my DR was well aware of it when he signed my paperwork.
nice try though.
HeartlandHank
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I think if the resources were there to be able to execute such a thing.... in the case of a home with children and parents who are not spending much of the money on feeding their children and keeping them clothed and stocked on school supplies and such... it might be a good idea to give the money to the oldest child and give him some sort of education/advising on budgeting his money.
I'm not riled up about my tax dollars being spent on such things... but with the limited amount of funds available to go to government assistance for families it should be kept as efficient as possible.
From a cost/benefit analysis though, it might cost less money to do less investigative work into who "needs" and who "abuses" and just call the money sent to the abusers "the cost of doing business".
I wonder how much would be saved or lost picking out and cutting down the abusers, while still making sure the money went to those in need.
I'm not riled up about my tax dollars being spent on such things... but with the limited amount of funds available to go to government assistance for families it should be kept as efficient as possible.
From a cost/benefit analysis though, it might cost less money to do less investigative work into who "needs" and who "abuses" and just call the money sent to the abusers "the cost of doing business".
I wonder how much would be saved or lost picking out and cutting down the abusers, while still making sure the money went to those in need.
Its funny, we spend thousands of times more money on social welfare programs than we did in 1960. Unfortunately we have the same amount of people still living in poverty. Maybe the benefits don't actually help in the long run?
HeartlandHank
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Yeah , you were on in the discussion.
Why is it that you feel that money spent to help those living in poverty needs to result in less poverty in the future. I don't see it like that. I see it as it is making sure that we do not have people starve to death.
I think that fixing the problem of poverty is something that is solved, or improved, in other ways.... education is a huge part of it... getting america back to being the leaders in new technology.
I don't think that giving money to families who need food, clothing and to pay utilities is going to "fix" the poverty situation. I think it just helps keep people from starving, ending up on the street, etc.....
Getting more people out of poverty is about seeing that they have marketable skills AND that there are jobs for the skills.. Education for our youngest is key. Trying to make all kids learn in the same way is a part of the problem.
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This here is what we call a strawman.
I never made that argument anywhere, so your reply is meaningless.
We ARE the leaders of new technology. You think the Chinese invent cool electronic things, or the Japanese? HELL NO, they just copy our designs. Most Asians are taught to conform and not think outside the box. Asians do not innovate much because of this.
speaking of strawmen ... who said anything about asians?
Jumping to conclusions maybe, not a Strawman.speaking of strawmen ... who said anything about asians?
Canna Sylvan
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But but but SSDI is insurance paid by the employer when you need it, hence the "I." It is in no way welfare. It's paid out of pay-roll tax. Which Bucky has no clue about. See, you have to work to get it. Also why employers fight bogus claims.
bucky was just bragging about all the money he scammed out of a prior employer. he's a troll in trolls clothing. it's all he knows how to do.
Canna Sylvan
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Fdd,
That's cool how you got that hidden camera next to Buck's computer.
That's cool how you got that hidden camera next to Buck's computer.
UncleBuck
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but those collecting SSDI are part of the 47%. the takers, not the makers. that was my point. we've all been there.
don't you get a tax credit just for popping out kids and earning a low enough income? i believe you do, obama even gave you a tax break on both which i had to inform you of.
too facile.
UncleBuck
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i may enjoy a good trolling, but that money was not scammed. a good percentage was paid in severance and my wage was high enough that i collected a lot of UI for a year or so. i gave up 6+ months of UI to take a job that paid similarly to UI. no scams at all. severance and UI.