Cannabis is TOXIC to Dogs and Cats

theQuetzalcoatl

Active Member
Four more articles and yet still NOT ONE shred of evidence that it's toxic. As a matter of fact one of these articles says
We have never been able to give an animal a sufficient quantity of a U.S.P. or other preparation of the Cannabis (Indica Arnericana) to produce death.
I'm not saying you SHOULD get your pet stoned. I'm just saying I've still yet to see ANY evidence that doing so will kill your pet.

+edit, you must spread some rep around before giving it to CB again.
 

ClaytonBigsby

Well-Known Member
Clayton,
my question would have to be what information you're gleaning from those links, stuff I'm not seeing.
I looked through those four new links and found
1) a century-old account, "we tried to kill a dog with intravenous Cannabis and could not. the dog recovered competely".
2) No author; no citations. Classic Internet cud. Two deaths but of unreported etiology. Fearmongering by association?
3) "breaking news! Dogs can get stoned!"
4) A digest from two handbooks published by commercial interests. its editorial slant is evident from Drug Warrior language.

I think that you're using an old definition of "toxic". Back when, the word had two distinct meanings: 1) it's bad for you, andor 2) it makes you feel funny (as in intoxicant). Obviously dogs can get intoxicated. In fact, for humans, that is sort of the point, and for all the "anecdolts" who report vigorous and durable drug-seeking behavior in their dogs and cats, it rather injures the proposition that weed is more anxiogenic in those mammals than in humans.
But as to the first, more serious meaning of toxic (injurious, damaging) I have so far seen no evidence beyond that second reference's mention of two dog deaths. (The absence of detail means that we are NOT allowed to draw the conclusion that that Bloggist would have us draw, and the absence of references or any sort of review marks that factoid as simple "sez you!" stuff.) Nowhere have I found a single confirmed instance of weed doing real harm to a dog or cat.

So I continue to challenge your claim that weed is toxic to dogs or cats. Intoxicating? hell yeah. But who uses "toxic" that way any more unless propagandizing?

Clayton, I respect your passion regarding this topic. But if you want to make an emotional appeal, make it honest and unadorned. I see you trying to invoke science, but not doing that in a way that stands up to even my sloppy Net-warrior review. THAT is why I am investing this much energy ... the false aura of legitimacy that the irrelevant (and far-from-primary in almost all cases) links would give your position. And when you insist that "the links DO address the issue!' when they demonstrably do not, you're beginning to step into some bad old territory: verity by repetition.

I am not championing getting animals high. I would never defend or countenance getting a dog high that didn't actively seek the drug, like the idiots who horbox their pets.
At the same time, I look at folks whose pets act to share or steal the buzz, and I cannot see the harm. This holds true after reading all your links.

Finally, understand that this is not personal. i am not attacking you or even finding reason to like you less. But I feel it is my full right to call BS on your claim. cn


Jesus Fucking Christ, cn! I agree that the information provided is less than conclusive. AGAIN, when it comes to my pet, I prefer to err on the side of caution. That is all. If you want to make this a person attack on me, knock yourself out. I do not care. I don't think people should fuck their dogs, let them ride in the back of pick ups, or get them stoned. I was simply pointing out that there IS some discussion on it. Whether it is anti pot propoganda, or not (although High Times seems to echo my concerns), is not my point. I saw a local news story on it last week, saw someone posting about getting their dog high in another thread, started a thread of my own, misquoted the information I heard, corrected it, provided some links from the ASPCA, High Times, Find Law, and a few others. The idea that pot is toxic to dogs is one I passed on, not hypothesized myself.

Over analyze much? Seems pretty straight forward to me.
 

cannabineer

Ursus marijanus
Jesus Fucking Christ, cn! I agree that the information provided is less than conclusive. AGAIN, when it comes to my pet, I prefer to err on the side of caution. That is all. If you want to make this a person attack on me, knock yourself out. I do not care. I don't think people should fuck their dogs, let them ride in the back of pick ups, or get them stoned. I was simply pointing out that there IS some discussion on it. Whether it is anti pot propoganda, or not (although High Times seems to echo my concerns), is not my point. I saw a local news story on it last week, saw someone posting about getting their dog high in another thread, started a thread of my own, misquoted the information I heard, corrected it, provided some links from the ASPCA, High Times, Find Law, and a few others. The idea that pot is toxic to dogs is one I passed on, not hypothesized myself.

Over analyze much? Seems pretty straight forward to me.
We are at an impasse here. Have a good day. cn
 

pabloesqobar

Well-Known Member
My cat ate some mature bud that fell off my plant. She was sick for 2 days. Just laying there, getting up to move to a different spot, laying down again. And throwing up pure liquid quite a few times. She was miserable and I felt horrible. Maybe not technically "toxic", but it sure made her very sick. I will never let that happen again.
 

tip top toker

Well-Known Member
My cat ate some mature bud that fell off my plant. She was sick for 2 days. Just laying there, getting up to move to a different spot, laying down again. And throwing up pure liquid quite a few times. She was miserable and I felt horrible. Maybe not technically "toxic", but it sure made her very sick. I will never let that happen again.
I've done similar and experienced the same thing myself. As in me, not my cat. Anything not done in moderation can have negative effects.
 

cannabineer

Ursus marijanus
I have seen that doctrine taken to excess however ... and remarkably, by a person who was extremely mean. cn :joint::bigjoint:

<necessary disambiguation> Nobody here.
 

tharoomman

Well-Known Member
bullshit my dogs are still kicking sure aint killed them yet shit when I was like 14 we put 2 cats in a fish tank and seran wraped the top put a empty tp roll on top amd clam baked the shit out of them and one of them cats is still alive.
What the fuck lol
 

CurlyFry

Member
My dog will eat the ash that i clear from my bowl lmao. iv also given them edibles. Ever see a chiwawa on couch lock? Lmao :eyesmoke:
 

VILEPLUME

Well-Known Member
Also make sure you buy grain free food for your dogs and cats. They are natural carnivores that east mostly meat and some vegetables. Corn especially is bad in dog food because of its high sugar content. So basically anyone feeding their dog or cat anything but grain free food is killing them.

 

cannabineer

Ursus marijanus
Also make sure you buy grain free food for your dogs and cats. They are natural carnivores that east mostly meat and some vegetables. Corn especially is bad in dog food because of its high sugar content. So basically anyone feeding their dog or cat anything but grain free food is killing them.

It's worse than you think. On a long-enough timescale, these products also have been associated with 100% mortality. cn
 

RainbowBrite86

Well-Known Member
My dog will eat the ash that i clear from my bowl lmao. iv also given them edibles. Ever see a chiwawa on couch lock? Lmao :eyesmoke:
My chihuahua ate a particularly potent medible once. I thought he was going to die. He was on couch lock for over a day. I didn't realize he'd eaten one until he'd already woken up and was running around. He was about 14 years old at the time, so it just seemed normal that he'd start to "go" I guess and I didn't think it was anything more than that. When he finally got up and started running around like nothing had happened, I started looking for other explanations and realized he'd eaten a medible. All I can say is he lived and his arthritis probably did not bother him for that 24 hours.
 

MellowFarmer

Well-Known Member
Thank you, Kite High. It's good to know that some people do read my walls of text. Sometimes writing such long posts makes me worry ... it seems somehow impolite. cn
Hell no cn you got one hell of set up and a delivery you sly bear :clap: I am calling it the Silent Bob from the Kevin Smith flick's -are you from the Clerk's generation when it was black and white? 69 dicks?! My Girlfriend Sucked 69 DICKS! is forever etched in my brain but oh sorry lol yeah so if you are a buff like me you may know the theme stuck that when Silent Bob does speak it is the most profound and eloquent utterance ever. :peace:
 

cannabineer

Ursus marijanus
My chihuahua ate a particularly potent medible once. I thought he was going to die. He was on couch lock for over a day. I didn't realize he'd eaten one until he'd already woken up and was running around. He was about 14 years old at the time, so it just seemed normal that he'd start to "go" I guess and I didn't think it was anything more than that. When he finally got up and started running around like nothing had happened, I started looking for other explanations and realized he'd eaten a medible. All I can say is he lived and his arthritis probably did not bother him for that 24 hours.
Thank goodness it was an Indica. Chihuahua + Sativa = Ay caramba! cn

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slowbus

New Member
my dog ate a left over pan of deadly brownies.After 2 days he was back to normal.Poisened,yes.Dead,no
 
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