Louie XIII OG in Dual Monster Plant System (3rd Scrog)

Robert4budz

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Quick question Jin .. I'm getting PH drops over nite .. 5.8 to 4.7 or lower. Evening temp 66 .. day temp 72. PPM 800 ish. RH 37% - 50%. No slime or slimey feel to power cord. Roots are all white except a little brown tint to main tap root. I've noticed as the temp rises there's more water uptake as the ppm rises (transpiration probably). Plants are fine tho ... just two brown splotches on the oldest fan leaves.
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Guessing the tiny brown splotches are either mag/cal uptake issues due to PH or possible root burn from PH adjustment fluid added to rez .. ?? I was used to PH spikes up due to hot rez temps and subsequent slime when temps were over 80 .. just not used to such PH drops without ppm rising.
 

lordjin

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Well here are a few more shots to confirm it's Elite pimp clone only goodness mwah ha ha ha :fire:

Oh and correction... It's actually day 30!

The macro is the same flower as the one shown by itself, just zoomed in a little more.
Nice. I'm writing, writing, writing... You guys provide for such great subject matter. Thank you.

Looking great! 21 days have just flew by. the colas are going to be huge and have no room for fan leaves. lol
I just flew back to CT and found my east coast sour dee still alive in the wild (only starting feeding her a couple days ago.) . i think i have one more week till it gets too cold for it to survive.. ill edit in some photos a little later of it.
Please do contribute any photos you have. Thank you.

That stretch.....my god!!!! Lol! And those Trichs!!! You certainly know what the hell your doing with hydro.
Thank you.

I know. And I thought they were gonna be pussycats. Wrong again. Shit. But the young buds do look very promising.

Quick question Jin .. I'm getting PH drops over nite .. 5.8 to 4.7 or lower. Evening temp 66 .. day temp 72. PPM 800 ish. RH 37% - 50%. No slime or slimey feel to power cord. Roots are all white except a little brown tint to main tap root. I've noticed as the temp rises there's more water uptake as the ppm rises (transpiration probably). Plants are fine tho ... just two brown splotches on the oldest fan leaves.
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Guessing the tiny brown splotches are either mag/cal uptake issues due to PH or possible root burn from PH adjustment fluid added to rez .. ?? I was used to PH spikes up due to hot rez temps and subsequent slime when temps were over 80 .. just not used to such PH drops without ppm rising.
Well the first rule of thumb is to evaluate the appearance of the plants in question. They look great, so I wouldn't be too concerned about PH drifts (up or down). The unexpected is to be expected to a certain degree especially when running a very active reservoir. I actually experience odd ph fluctuations myself. It's almost as if the plants play 'musical ph' on me sometimes.

I've also noticed that when my plants get super big and are growing aggressively, they pretty much decide what the ph is gonna be themselves.

Just keep the res conditions as sound as you can and adjust ph accordingly. You'll probably see a bit of stabilization as the plants and roots increase in mass.
 

Robert4budz

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I've also noticed that when my plants get super big and are growing aggressively, they pretty much decide what the ph is gonna be themselves.
Thanks Jin ! Great to have someone to bounce this stuff off of in real time. Gonna hafta spliff ya :joint: at the next LA Cannabis cup trip !! Just check'd um .. and yup .. Musical PH .. it's up to 6.0.

FYI .. Pineapple express vrs White Widow. :weed:
 

lordjin

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Thanks Jin ! Great to have someone to bounce this stuff off of in real time. Gonna hafta spliff ya :joint: at the next LA Cannabis cup trip !! Just check'd um .. and yup .. Musical PH .. it's up to 6.0.

FYI .. Pineapple express vrs White Widow. :weed:
Just gotta keep one eye on the ph at all times. Looking forward to seeing those bud.
 

lordjin

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Had to tie 'em. Check it out.





Opening it up like this has solved the problem. They very top buds on the highest branches should be safe now.

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Lookin' deelish already.
 

flowamasta

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oh my...... you have a sexy strain there. And the quality of your pics!? wtf!? that shite looks like lemon merangue candy!!! Reallit outdone yourself here ;) awesome all round! sorry been quiet, you know how it is at harvest you rest..... you sleep.... you get high, oh and then you gotta rest cause you got so high beforehand :)

Louie ...... marry me? I can see it already. Cruelty.
 

lordjin

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oh my...... you have a sexy strain there. And the quality of your pics!? wtf!? that shite looks like lemon merangue candy!!! Reallit outdone yourself here ;) awesome all round! sorry been quiet, you know how it is at harvest you rest..... you sleep.... you get high, oh and then you gotta rest cause you got so high beforehand :)

Louie ...... marry me? I can see it already. Cruelty.
Thanks. I just rolled out the sack myself. Nice to wake up to your post.

Those are looking mighty sexy, I can't wait until I get some stretch... assuming I ever do with LED.
Do LEDs restrict stretching?
 

D3monic

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It seems there is a common complaint of plants grown under strictly led's causes denser bushier plants with not as long node spacing in between for bud sites. It seems peeps are faulting the LED's for this claiming not enough penetration but we all know that if a plant is getting enough light in high enough intensity that the plant doesn't stretch and the main reason the plant stretches is to reach for and out compete the surrounding plants for light.
 

lordjin

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It seems there is a common complaint of plants grown under strictly led's causes denser bushier plants with not as long node spacing in between for bud sites. It seems peeps are faulting the LED's for this claiming not enough penetration but we all know that if a plant is getting enough light in high enough intensity that the plant doesn't stretch and the main reason the plant stretches is to reach for and out compete the surrounding plants for light.
I would think plants staying short is a good thing.
 

2easy

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hey demonic go check out the dawgs led grow journal he's doing great under his led's

https://www.rollitup.org/led-other-lighting/542556-dawg-house-grow-featuring-area.html

still got plenty of stretch. I'm pretty certain stretch is a genetic trait. just look at jin's louie, i don't think its short of light under that 1k lamp yet it has stretched to the heavens. of course plants not getting enough light will stretch even more in search of light too but its not the only factor.
 

lordjin

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hey demonic go check out the dawgs led grow journal he's doing great under his led's

https://www.rollitup.org/led-other-lighting/542556-dawg-house-grow-featuring-area.html

still got plenty of stretch. I'm pretty certain stretch is a genetic trait. just look at jin's louie, i don't think its short of light under that 1k lamp yet it has stretched to the heavens. of course plants not getting enough light will stretch even more in search of light too but its not the only factor.
I agree. Stretching is a characteristic of strength as well as weakness.
 
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