Louie XIII OG in Dual Monster Plant System (3rd Scrog)

2easy said:

buddha tahoe og fail. this is hands down the shittest yielding plant i have ever seen never mind grown. she is in spectacular health not a blemish on her and everything is spot on in the environment yet she just decided she wasn't going to bud and produced these tiny specs.

what a let down.

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Hm. Yeah, I'm with ACM. Seeds aren't genetically stable. I've been reading so much about the mother plant selection process from people who start clone generations from seed plants. It's tricky sometimes. You just got a bad line going. Sorry to hear that, man.

And you're right about the plants being in perfect health, so it's just the way they are. I mean OG's yield little compared to some other strains, but that is ridiculous. Strange how it's so plentiful in frosty fan leaves.

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Damn, dude. The foliage is gorgeous, but it's mostly foliage! Where did these seeds come from again? Bad press for you, whoever banked these beans out!

Apologies for the slight lag in update. I've been on fire at Green Gurlz. I hope most if not all of you know what I'm talking about.

Much good shit in the works for today's update. Please look out for it.



You guys are the best! Thank you!

dare i say it..... the bean was from...... (insert suspense music here) Cali con.

it was a free seed and its only my small grow area so its no real drama. my vanilla kush looks as though i will pull around a lb so all is well I'm not going to lose sleep over it but its just a little disappointing because honestly the plant was so beautiful and lush i was expecting big things. oh well onward and upward.

next up to bat is paradise seeds delahaze a strain renowned for yielding well and a reserva privada og18. the delahaze has already shed its seed and the og is expected to do the same tomorrow

2easy said:

dare i say it..... the bean was from...... (insert suspense music here) Cali con.

it was a free seed and its only my small grow area so its no real drama. my vanilla kush looks as though i will pull around a lb so all is well I'm not going to lose sleep over it but its just a little disappointing because honestly the plant was so beautiful and lush i was expecting big things. oh well onward and upward.

next up to bat is paradise seeds delahaze a strain renowned for yielding well and a reserva privada og18. the delahaze has already shed its seed and the og is expected to do the same tomorrow

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I hear lots and lots of OG this and OG that all over these boards regarding seed plants. Funny thing? I was always taught that real OG Kush has not been developed into anything close to a fail safe seed. Cut only and California only has meaning and weight for good reason. In my opinion, you might get close with a seed plant, but even the best outcome will only approach the real Cali cut... and you run the risk of the seed moving completely away from its OG imprint... as has happened to many a seed grower I'm sure.

Interestingly, the Cali-Connect website has changed since the last time I looked at it. Online ordering is gone. They now list a bunch of California dispensaries that carry their seeds? What the fuck? I didn't know California needed unstable "OG Kush seeds." All their posted OG Kush pictures are gone too. Like this one:

I'm glad they took them down. Any OGK grower from Cali would know that this didn't come from a seed plant -- nor did any of their other OGK pix posted next to their seed offerings. In fact I found the exact same OGK photos floating around on other seed bank sites. So they were clearly dishonest representations of their seed genetics. The above Tahoe photo looks as good as my shit. And that came from a funky seed from the UK? I don't think so.

Shall I post a piece on Cali-Connect at Green Gurlz?

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"Supplying only the finest California genetics to the world in seed form?" And your order form is gone - replaced by a list of California dispensaries that supposedly carry your seeds? What sense does that make?

the trouble with being in a country where it is illegal and not knowing any other growers is i have to search through all these seeds and find my keepers myself. so far i have managed to find only one strain worthy of the title keeper.

i cant wait to do another run of my beautiful sun maiden to show her off to you jin. she shows just how good some crosses can be.... grapestomper x chemdawg og
super frosty buds with some really nice purple. unfortunately for legal reasons i dont store photos so you will just have to wait until my next run with her to see her in all her glory. probably wont be until after summer though so she can take advantage of some cooler temps and purp right up. this is my very own elite cut and im working on finding more. i can confidently say she would be right at home in your set up

i should mention that im starting to see a trend in my search for elite cuts. a lot of these OG kush strains that are available in seed form are s1's and inbred lines and im fairly certain that this is the reason they are all a little underwhelming. crosses using OG's seem to do better as they retain a little hybrid vigour

2easy said:

the trouble with being in a country where it is illegal and not knowing any other growers is i have to search through all these seeds and find my keepers myself. so far i have managed to find only one strain worthy of the title keeper.

i cant wait to do another run of my beautiful sun maiden to show her off to you jin. she shows just how good some crosses can be.... grapestomper x chemdawg og
super frosty buds with some really nice purple. unfortunately for legal reasons i dont store photos so you will just have to wait until my next run with her to see her in all her glory. probably wont be until after summer though so she can take advantage of some cooler temps and purp right up. this is my very own elite cut and im working on finding more. i can confidently say she would be right at home in your set up

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I don't doubt that for a moment. Looking forward to more from you.

Fully appreciate that you're limited by your location. If you had this California shit, you would do 'em proud I'm sure.

maybe i need to get down and see flowa and grab some of the cuts he and his mates are passing around seems to be some good shit in that circle.

lordjin said:

Damn, dude. The foliage is gorgeous, but it's mostly foliage! Where did these seeds come from again? Bad press for you, whoever banked these beans out!

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Swerve aka Cali Connection. Supposedly they are a "special selected Tahoe" or some shit, which i find odd as Swerve of all prople knows the Tahoe is clone only. So i'm thinking the Budda Tahoe is a "selved" (hermes till it polinated itself) Tahoe. Then take all the first generation of S1 seeds, grow all of them. Now you could (depending on if you even got males) either make S2 seeds by picking the best of the S1 plants and agains "Selving" it, thus making S2. Or you could if you got some males to work with from the S1's breed the best male to the best female which would be better IMO than S2 seeds and these wouldnt be selved but you would get regular beans. It's hard to get males from S1 or S2 seeds as these sre typically marketed as "feminized' since it's highly likley you'll get a girl (because no male was involved making it.

Swerve has a thread on here somewhere (or actually i think it's someone elses thread but Swerve is in there) and people are bitching up a storm about the Buddah Tahoe seeds sucking for various reasons.

To Swerve's accreditation you should be picking good Phenos when working with seeds... But you never know what it is till you run it all the way out... And also to his acredation, I LOVE the Tahoe OG clone only, which he did bring out to the public. And he's even thrown me some tips for her on here. So personally I have nothing against him

the buddha tahoe og. was a selfed tahoe og which was entered in the cannabis cup under the name buddha tahoe og because it was done through a stand that had something to do with big buddha seeds or some shit but swerve later changed the make up of the strain by crossing a reversed tahoe to a loiue XIII or vice versa to differentiate it from the buddha tahoe that big buddha seeds is selling.

i have actually seen some really good results with these seeds i just got unlucky i guess or had some grower error somewhere that i cant figure out? no love lost just pop another seed and get on with the grow i say.

2easy said:

the buddha tahoe og. was a selfed tahoe og which was entered in the cannabis cup under the name buddha tahoe og because it was done through a stand that had something to do with big buddha seeds or some shit but swerve later changed the make up of the strain by crossing a reversed tahoe to a loiue XIII or vice versa to differentiate it from the buddha tahoe that big buddha seeds is selling.

i have actually seen some really good results with these seeds i just got unlucky i guess or had some grower error somewhere that i cant figure out? no love lost just pop another seed and get on with the grow i say.

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Great attitude man, I would say no grower error at all. Straight up bad luck. Best way for you to fin a keeper will be to bust like a 10 pack (or even more ideally but lets be realistic) and grow out them all till you can take clones off them. Take cuts off all of them, mark them so you know what is what, and run the cuts all the way out. Then you can see which seed plants you have are good for keepers and it will be a lot quicker for finding a good one to keep.

I bet if you bust 5 - 10 and ran them all side by side to compare for 1 run you could get one or two at least fairly close to the original clone only cut.

thats the plan eventually but for the time being i dont have the facilities to go popping 10 or even 5 at a time. 3 is about my limit for now which is why my focus is more on my fems than my regulars at the moment. i actually prefer regulars the plants just seem better but well, fems are just so convenient.. i could grow 10 or so small plants at a time but i would have to build a whole new hydro set up because i hate soil and coco.

i am buying a new house before the end of the year so i dare say when that happens i will be building a new purpose built shed for growing then things might be different. for now i will just work my way through packs the slow way. if you could see how many packets of seeds i have stashed away you would laugh. at the rate im going i may never get through them all lol.

2easy said:

thats the plan eventually but for the time being i dont have the facilities to go popping 10 or even 5 at a time. 3 is about my limit for now which is why my focus is more on my fems than my regulars at the moment. i actually prefer regulars the plants just seem better but well, fems are just so convenient.. i could grow 10 or so small plants at a time but i would have to build a whole new hydro set up because i hate soil and coco.

i am buying a new house before the end of the year so i dare say when that happens i will be building a new purpose built shed for growing then things might be different. for now i will just work my way through packs the slow way. if you could see how many packets of seeds i have stashed away you would laugh. at the rate im going i may never get through them all lol.

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Bummer, yea it's a bitch on space & time for that matter for sure. Especially considering you have to keep them around for so damn long before you know which ones to hack and which ones to love tenderly lol

And here we have 21 days of flowering!





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Here's a couple Tahoe shots from tonight for the blog. Day 30 bloom

AzCannaMan said:

Here's a couple Tahoe shots from tonight for the blog. Day 31 bloom

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That looks quite nice. Damn, your calyxes actually look thicker and denser than either of the Tahoes I grew. You'll be the next "A Sense of Community" update.

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Yeah, that is very distinct. I hate to keep beating a dead horse, but I can tell it's not Cali-Connect. Lol.

lordjin said:

That looks quite nice. Damn, your calyxes actually look thicker and denser than either of the Tahoes I grew. You'll be the next "A Sense of Community" update.

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Yeah, that is very distinct. I hate to keep beating a dead horse, but I can tell it's not Cali-Connect. Lol.

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Well here are a few more shots to confirm it's Elite pimp clone only goodness mwah ha ha ha

Oh and correction... It's actually day 30!

The macro is the same flower as the one shown by itself, just zoomed in a little more.

Looking great! 21 days have just flew by. the colas are going to be huge and have no room for fan leaves. lol
I just flew back to CT and found my east coast sour dee still alive in the wild (only starting feeding her a couple days ago.) . i think i have one more week till it gets too cold for it to survive.. ill edit in some photos a little later of it.

That stretch.....my god!!!! Lol! And those Trichs!!! You certainly know what the hell your doing with hydro.