Afgoo + Lavender * Coco & LED
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puffenuff
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You also asked about getting by without using boost...if you mean just skip it all together, I wouldn't be happy with the results. But you can absolutely sub it out for something less expensive. A lot of people use either the house and garden bud xl in its place or I've seen some amazing buds isn't canna bases plus atami bloombastic. Im sure you can use pretty much any other hydro/coco bloom nutes.
puffenuff
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Over 90 seems really high. My understanding is the the higher the temps the more the plant stomata open to breathe, but I also know too hot and quality degrades and potential decreases. I think mid 70s to 80s is warm enough and still will see some benefits of co2. Maybe someone else can chime in if I'm wrong.
Amaximus
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Yeah, At the time I hadn't even looked at the calculator so I wasn't quite sure what was needed. It became obvious afterwards that the boost, or something similar, is a necessity but boy, Is that shit expensive. heh. Thanks for the suggestions, I'm going to do a little more research and see what I can find.
IlovePlants
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I would generally agree. We are looking for fall time temperatures, anything over 85 generally leads to the "more trouble than it's worth" category. In order for a plant to sustain that type of massive overclocking you would expect to have to maintain a substantial amount of light for plant to be able to out pace; hermaphriditism, re-vegging, and foliage burn if humidity/wind/water is not constantly maintained to perfection. In high heat, high humidity situations, your plant is looking for the easy way out.
In general, it is insane to expect a plant to finish to perfection at such high temperatures unless the plant is a land strain sativa from equatorial habitation, or you have an intense understanding of the complex relationships of the stressors/particular effects on the plant.
I had written a long article on CO2 supplementation, but in general if you already know what you are growing you will have a better understanding of what it takes to bring your plant to full fruition. CO2 isn't a limiting factor until you have reached your maximum unaided yield potential. Your grow can only go so cherry before she pops, you dig man.
I do 85'f with 55% humidity, wind speeds at medium on fans, and mild CO2 supplementation. I just want those Spectras out of my flowering room for good. After September is over I plan on making some amazing changes. Looking forward to getting back to what I do best. Eventually, you realize that nothing beats trimming and training other life forms to do your bidding.
Sincerely,
ILovePlants
P.S. Been looking into the afgoo, if it's anything like some of the cuts floating around the CO area, I'm sure you will be thrilled
puffenuff
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^^^^^^^^^^^you bastard! .........that's the meter I originally wanted, but I cheapened out.............thanks for testing out those exhale bags/ you know how I feel about them, but it was tested by unknown sources.....you not the type to BS us about it's performance/will be good to see......thanks brother
haha, I got the meter a couple days ago and it's way bigger than it looks in the picture. I'll get some pics up when it's all hooked up and turned on. Might be a few days on that. Yeah, I'm looking forward to doing some co2 experimenting again, with new methods, and if they don't work...maybe I'll do it psu style and light up some candles.
That looks like some mighty good stuff there iLOVE. Over 1g/w is something to be proud of, great job. Love the breakdown explanation, much appreciated.
puffenuff
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I've never used GH products but I do have a good buddy who runs the gh flora nova line in coco and he gets some really nice plants as well. It's really all just personal preference at the end of the day.
puffenuff
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Oh man, looks like were going to have another badass grow here for sure! SUBBED!
Thanks for joining in on the fun, alex!
Glad you subbed up, sobs! I'll have to make my way over to your new thread and check out the dr. atomic nl...im thrilled with how mine turned out. Truly a medicinal strain.
puffenuff
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Start of Veg Week 2 Update.
So far so good. The transplant went smooth. The Afgoo (Shorter, on the Right Side) have been loving life. The Lavender (Taller, on the Left Side) were a little droopy on a couple of the bigger leaves for a day and but then picked themselves up. They're definitely taller than the Afgoo with greater distance between nodes. I am thinking I'll need to start tying the Lavender down eventually. Found a couple mites the other day...had to take care of that real quick. They're gone now, just sucks that you have a brand new environment for your plants and then mites come in with the new clones. Next time, I'm inspecting the shit out of the clones before I take them home. Ridiculous that this dispensary doesn't check for these types of things...
Well I'm going to feed them again soon and change the nutrient levels a bit so here's the next feeding:
Per gallon:
8ml A & B
8ml Rhizotonic
9ml Cannazym
1 drop Superthrive
1 dash Great White
That's all for now, next week I'll be lowering the Rhizo amounts to 2ml and possibly be increasing the A & B slightly to 9ml. We'll see how they look. Then about 2 weeks of the same, maybe some training. Overall, at this stage, they are looking much better than my last round. Have yet to turn on any other light than the XML. That's coming soon though...very soon...
Thanks for checking out the grow.
So far so good. The transplant went smooth. The Afgoo (Shorter, on the Right Side) have been loving life. The Lavender (Taller, on the Left Side) were a little droopy on a couple of the bigger leaves for a day and but then picked themselves up. They're definitely taller than the Afgoo with greater distance between nodes. I am thinking I'll need to start tying the Lavender down eventually. Found a couple mites the other day...had to take care of that real quick. They're gone now, just sucks that you have a brand new environment for your plants and then mites come in with the new clones. Next time, I'm inspecting the shit out of the clones before I take them home. Ridiculous that this dispensary doesn't check for these types of things...
Well I'm going to feed them again soon and change the nutrient levels a bit so here's the next feeding:
Per gallon:
8ml A & B
8ml Rhizotonic
9ml Cannazym
1 drop Superthrive
1 dash Great White
That's all for now, next week I'll be lowering the Rhizo amounts to 2ml and possibly be increasing the A & B slightly to 9ml. We'll see how they look. Then about 2 weeks of the same, maybe some training. Overall, at this stage, they are looking much better than my last round. Have yet to turn on any other light than the XML. That's coming soon though...very soon...
Thanks for checking out the grow.
IlovePlants
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Yeah, I always bomb the soil of any clone I get before I even bring it back to my place, then I bomb it again. You know us whites. Seriously though Neem Oil and Azomax work wonders. If you ever decide to go organic you can have predator mites in your soil and they wont die off until they've gone a month or so without food. It's fun to watch the colonies of predators grow and grow. Then they all die from starvation and their brave little bodies return to the earth that they proudly defended to their dying breath.
Green house mites are so great, they gave me so much more respect for organics. I was like "Shit, now I never have to worry about mites ever again", because all of the sudden you have mites of your own and they are more than happy to eat all the other mites babies. They don't actually kill the adults of anything they kill the larvae and eggs, but if you need something for adults you just pick up lady bugs.
The first generation of invaders slowly eaten away as their children are robbed from their cradles and used to feed your hungry army, it's some brutal stuff. Makes for amazing entertainment. Your army even sends out patrols from time to time, they go places they don't normally to search for food once their supply is low. A good organic environment is supplied the resources, and biology, to utilize what they need and protect the equilibrium.
Sincerely,
ILovePlants
P.S. Those clones look like some luscious little buggers! Can't wait for the 12-12, I'm sure you are eager as well
Green house mites are so great, they gave me so much more respect for organics. I was like "Shit, now I never have to worry about mites ever again", because all of the sudden you have mites of your own and they are more than happy to eat all the other mites babies. They don't actually kill the adults of anything they kill the larvae and eggs, but if you need something for adults you just pick up lady bugs.
The first generation of invaders slowly eaten away as their children are robbed from their cradles and used to feed your hungry army, it's some brutal stuff. Makes for amazing entertainment. Your army even sends out patrols from time to time, they go places they don't normally to search for food once their supply is low. A good organic environment is supplied the resources, and biology, to utilize what they need and protect the equilibrium.
Sincerely,
ILovePlants
P.S. Those clones look like some luscious little buggers! Can't wait for the 12-12, I'm sure you are eager as well
PSUAGRO.
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The clones look good puff....Fucking mites from a dispensary!/ a disgrace IMO....yeah what Ilove said and hyroot always says about that ancient forest containing pred mites...I have my own organic mix/ need a gas mask too make/apply it lol, absolute death......hmmm did see a hint for a new light/ my money's on lumigrow pro 325 did you notice that they changed the fixture color to white/gray? guess that famous blue color is finished............happy growing puff
did you notice that they changed the fixture color to white/gray? guess that famous blue color is finished............happy growing puff
509Zman420
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why don't you just use one of those clones and turn it into a mother? It would keep all outside contaminates off of your shit and best of all, you know where it came from. I will never bring in anything from outside of my room... and plus you do not know what kind of mother they took it from... did they weed out any bad genetics from it first? if not, your best bet is to generation that crap out
puffenuff
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Yeah, I always bomb the soil of any clone I get before I even bring it back to my place, then I bomb it again. You know us whites. Seriously though Neem Oil and Azomax work wonders. If you ever decide to go organic you can have predator mites in your soil and they wont die off until they've gone a month or so without food. It's fun to watch the colonies of predators grow and grow. Then they all die from starvation and their brave little bodies return to the earth that they proudly defended to their dying breath.
Green house mites are so great, they gave me a so much more respect for organics. I was like "Shit, now I never have to worry about mites ever again", because all of the sudden you have mites of your own and they are more than happy to eat all the other mites babies. They don't actually kill the adults of anything they kill the larvae and eggs, but if you need something for adults you just pick up lady bugs.
The first generation of invaders slowly eaten away as their children are robbed from their cradles and used to feed your hungry army, it's some brutal stuff. Makes for amazing entertainment. Your army even sends out patrols from time to time, they go places they don't normally to search for food once their supply is low. A good organic environment is supplied the resources, and biology, to utilize what they need and protect the equilibrium.
Sincerely,
ILovePlants
P.S. Those clones look like some luscious little buggers! Can't wait for the 12-12, I'm sure you are eager as well
You always have some great advice that comes with a unique twist. Thanks for the input, if I could do that at the moment, I would. Had to settle for some organic spray. Keep the great comments rolling in.
The clones look good puff....Fucking mites from a dispensary!/ a disgrace IMO....yeah what Ilove said and hyroot always says about that ancient forest containing pred mites...I have my own organic mix/ need a gas mask too make/apply it lol, absolute death......hmmm did see a hint for a new light/ my money's on lumigrow pro 325
Thank you sir, they actually look better today after their feeding last night. Tempted to break away from the weekly updates already and upload some fresh pics...ha, maybe in a couple days...oh shit, did I unknowingly make reference to buying a new panel?? true signs I need help...I don't think I'll be getting anything new for at least another round or two but the lumigrow is definitely near the top of the list. Yeah I saw that they changed it up, looks sharp with the new color. Happy growing back at you, looking forward to whatever you got planned next.
I would if I could, but I can't my Zman...only space for one tent and my old closet is in use by the old lady. I would love to have my own mothers where I could pick and choose my phenos and continue with a same strain for more than one round...but I'm limited to clones and 1 tent at the moment to get me through full cycle. Great advice about not bringing in outside objects to your environment. This place also test their dry flowers at a lab for mold, thc content, etc so I'm wondering why it's ok for the clones to come with pests...someone's slacking on the job. But as far as the genetics, I'm not worried, I'm sure they are just fine, the last round from this place turned out amazing. Thanks for the comment.
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