New York Bans Large Sodas

[Grandpapy]

Normally the person's family takes care of that burden, cuz normally they step up and take responsibility.

lol Like the US is normal..

 

[NoDrama]

Slippery slope - from banning tubs of sugar from being sold in a location to DESTROYING THE CONSTITUION ITSELF.

And they say lefties are alarmist. I thought the right had nothing but good things to say for locals dealing with local matters.... localy.

Bad laws are just that, bad, whether local or national.

 

[NoDrama]

Driving is far more essential than the ability to purchase 64 ounces of Sprite at one time.

Not for the guy who spent the last 12 hours driving around lost in death valley it isn't.

 

[Grandpapy]

life is like a movie theatre, some people just fucking decide to leave early. why so buthurt if somebody decides to walk out in the middle of the show? it doesnt stop YOU from hanging around till the ending credits finish and you know who did the post production and who was best boy.

maybe the production values sucked, maybe there was gum on the seats, maybe the assholes in the front rows shouting at the screen ruined the picture? why does it bother YOU that somebody decides to take the emergency exit instead of waiting in the lobby for his turn at the door?

Because the light from the E exit is shinning on the screen and ruining the movie. And as such I just lost value for MY money.

 

[canndo]

Pappy? see how it works? How powerful the PR and spin is? You can take away my right to a trial, my right to be free of improper search, to not have to testify against myself. You can take away everything but my 2nd amendment rights, my rght to pray wherever I want and..... my right to purchase from corporations.


Can't take that away, that would be unconsitutional. That would be unfucking American.

 

[Grandpapy]

Pappy? see how it works? How powerful the PR and spin is? You can take away my right to a trial, my right to be free of improper search, to not have to testify against myself. You can take away everything but my 2nd amendment rights, my rght to pray wherever I want and..... my right to purchase from corporations.


Can't take that away, that would be unconsitutional. That would be unfucking American.

Surly this our largest threat as a nation, Do you know of any resources that I might explore that would bring this out into the open?

 

[canndo]

Surly this our largest threat as a nation, Do you know of any resources that I might explore that would bring this out into the open?

"deadly spin" - Wendell Potter - in it he explains why we don't have national health care. He was one of the spin masters. He explains why we belive what we do. If there were a PR firm influencing us about our other rights you might see this change - but there is no money behind one's 5th amendment rights.

Hundreds of billions a year are spent to have us believe in certain ways - and the effects are positive and measurable.

do you think for an instant that the soft drink industry doesn't have a PR plan in place? Chevron's "we agree" spin is another - it is an old tactic, "we are behind you, we were wrong and you are right, we just want to help". (is it chevron? or Exxon?)

 

[Grandpapy]

"deadly spin" - Wendell Potter - in it he explains why we don't have national health care. He was one of the spin masters. He explains why we belive what we do. If there were a PR firm influencing us about our other rights you might see this change - but there is no money behind one's 5th amendment rights.

Hundreds of billions a year are spent to have us believe in certain ways - and the effects are positive and measurable.

do you think for an instant that the soft drink industry doesn't have a PR plan in place? Chevron's "we agree" spin is another - it is an old tactic, "we are behind you, we were wrong and you are right, we just want to help". (is it chevron? or Exxon?)

Thanks I'll check it out.

 

[Dr Kynes]

Driving is far more essential than the ability to purchase 64 ounces of Sprite at one time.

Sprite provides:

water (essential)
carbohydrates (essential)
lemon/lime zest (essential)
and carbon dioxide (pollution)

i bet that really whats going on here, Coca Cola, Pepsi, and their local bottlers refused to be intimidated into buying carbon credits from all gore's company to "Offset" their carbon diooxide "emissions" so bloomberg is putting the screws to them.

this would explain why he doesnt give a shit about 40oz malt liquors since coors, budweiser and other brewers are protected by federal laws...

 

[Grandpapy]

Sprite provides:

water (essential)
carbohydrates (essential)
lemon/lime zest (essential)
and carbon dioxide (pollution)

i bet that really whats going on here, Coca Cola, Pepsi, and their local bottlers refused to be intimidated into buying carbon credits from all gore's company to "Offset" their carbon diooxide "emissions" so bloomberg is putting the screws to them.

this would explain why he doesnt give a shit about 40oz malt liquors since coors, budweiser and other brewers are protected by federal laws...

You are right, it is not in their best monetary interest to make a healthy product.

 

[Dr Kynes]

Pappy? see how it works? How powerful the PR and spin is? You can take away my right to a trial, my right to be free of improper search, to not have to testify against myself. You can take away everything but my 2nd amendment rights, my rght to pray wherever I want and..... my right to purchase from corporations.


Can't take that away, that would be unconsitutional. That would be unfucking American.

ORLY?

when did you lose those rights?

i presume you mean the "patriot act", which only applies to foreign nationals engaged in war against the civilian population of the USA. so unless youre confessing to some shit here, the law does NOT apply to you, no matter how stupid, inane and ridiculously useless it is.

 

[Dr Kynes]

You are right, it is not in their best monetary interest to make a health product.

nobody WANTS 64 ounces of carrot juice or wheat grass. if somebody WANTS 64 ounces of dr pepper why should it matter to you or canndo if they get it or not?

fuck they could buy a 2 liter and drink it from a dirty ashtray if they wanted, why the fuck does it matter to you, canndo, bloomberg or that bitch who always looks like she just swallowed a bug, michelle obama?

 

[canndo]

nobody WANTS 64 ounces of carrot juice or wheat grass. if somebody WANTS 64 ounces of dr pepper why should it matter to you or canndo if they get it or not?

fuck they could buy a 2 liter and drink it from a dirty ashtray if they wanted, why the fuck does it matter to you, canndo, bloomberg or that bitch who always looks like she just swallowed a bug, michelle obama?

Companies - "but we are blameless, we only cater do consumer demand, it isn't our fault but your own for wanting such unhealthy things, we have nothing to do with that"

"all we can do is give you what you ask for"

 

[Grandpapy]

ORLY?

when did you lose those rights?

i presume you mean the "patriot act", which only applies to foreign nationals engaged in war against the civilian population of the USA. so unless youre confessing to some shit here, the law does NOT apply to you, no matter how stupid, inane and ridiculously useless it is.

You must admit it's a great way to uncover trade secrets......

 

[canndo]

nobody WANTS 64 ounces of carrot juice or wheat grass. if somebody WANTS 64 ounces of dr pepper why should it matter to you or canndo if they get it or not?

fuck they could buy a 2 liter and drink it from a dirty ashtray if they wanted, why the fuck does it matter to you, canndo, bloomberg or that bitch who always looks like she just swallowed a bug, michelle obama?

Why does it matter to me Doc?

http://voices.yahoo.com/obesity-jeopardizes-us-national-security-5635926.html?cat=5

 

[Dr Kynes]

Companies - "but we are blameless, we only cater do consumer demand, it isn't our fault but your own for wanting such unhealthy things, we have nothing to do with that"

"all we can do is give you what you ask for"

yep, if i want a club i will make my own fucking club, if i want a stone dagger i will chip it from a flint chert all by myself. if i want a 64 fucking ounce soda pop i am likely not gonna brew that shit myself, it is simply easier for me to trade for it. i do not feel the need to BLAME the merchant for providing what i desire. if he did not provide it i would go someplace else, or make the shit myself, and most likely, due to production overrruns, sell the stuff to my neighbors who might also like a snort of cherry lime rickey.

your complaints are the standard lament of the leftist, this other guy is doing something i dont like! somebody make him stop, FOR THE CHILDREN!

beer and whiskey were once produced by each household, with predictably variable results. some people were better at brewing or distilling, and thus they would brew and distill for their neighbors, in exchange for crops, livestock, durable goods, and eventually money.

this is capitalism. if i can do it better than you can do it yourself, and offer my product at a lower price than you could get by doing it yourself, then you trade for my products. this results in specialization commerce, and eventually civilization.

why do you hate civilization?

is it because Sid Meier is jewish?

yep, antisemitism. youre a bad person.

 

[canndo]

yep, if i want a club i will make my own fucking club, if i want a stone dagger i will chip it from a flint chert all by myself. if i want a 64 fucking ounce soda pop i am likely not gonna brew that shit myself, it is simply easier for me to trade for it. i do not feel the need to BLAME the merchant for providing what i desire. if he did not provide it i would go someplace else, or make the shit myself, and most likely, due to production overrruns, sell the stuff to my neighbors who might also like a snort of cherry lime rickey.

your complaints are the standard lament of the leftist, this other guy is doing something i dont like! somebody make him stop, FOR THE CHILDREN!

beer and whiskey were once produced by each household, with predictably variable results. some people were better at brewing or distilling, and thus they would brew and distill for their neighbors, in exchange for crops, livestock, durable goods, and eventually money.

this is capitalism. if i can do it better than you can do it yourself, and offer my product at a lower price than you could get by doing it yourself, then you trade for my products. this results in specialization commerce, and eventually civilization.

why do you hate civilization?

is it because Sid Meier is jewish?

yep, antisemitism. youre a bad person.

And there is a long history of sprite manufacture in your family right doc? Over the years the big bottling companies finally decided it would be easier for them to do it and you appreciate that.


the fact is that for many if not most products, especialy eatable ones, your desire is manufactured and then catered to. A bunch of people ddin't cry out in the wilderness for a lemony/limey sweet sparkling drink with no redeaming value until finally a large corporation got the hint and began producing it.


the drink and your desire for that drink was researched, focus grouped, tested, test marketed, taste tested and tested even more simply so you would think that you could never have gotten along with out it - and then you are told that your choice of this important consumer item is even more important than THEIR soft drink. Now, rather than a choice to drink this shit or not, your only real choice is between one or the other.


Yeah, sure.... corporations are only providing what we the public demand of them.

 

[Dr Kynes]

Why does it matter to me Doc?

http://voices.yahoo.com/obesity-jeopardizes-us-national-security-5635926.html?cat=5

ZOMG!! a yahoo blogger thinks that if you have a BMI higher than 10 the terrorists win!

even at my fittest, when i could run a nine minute mile, and wrestle a horse to the ground with my bare hands, i NEVER had a BMI that was considered healthy.

a BMI of 30.3 made me officially obese at 6'4" and 248 pounds.

it may surprise you to know that some people are unhealthy despite their incredibly low BMI, while others are extremely healthy with a BMI that makes them officially tubs of lard.

it might shock you to know that this guy:


is clinically obese as well. what a fatass. we should ban protein shakes, power bars and whey powder. that shit makes you so unhealthy.

 

[Dr Kynes]

And there is a long history of sprite manufacture in your family right doc? Over the years the big bottling companies finally decided it would be easier for them to do it and you appreciate that.


the fact is that for many if not most products, especialy eatable ones, your desire is manufactured and then catered to. A bunch of people ddin't cry out in the wilderness for a lemony/limey sweet sparkling drink with no redeaming value until finally a large corporation got the hint and began producing it.


the drink and your desire for that drink was researched, focus grouped, tested, test marketed, taste tested and tested even more simply so you would think that you could never have gotten along with out it - and then you are told that your choice of this important consumer item is even more important than THEIR soft drink. Now, rather than a choice to drink this shit or not, your only real choice is between one or the other.


Yeah, sure.... corporations are only providing what we the public demand of them.

yes. a VERY long history

my grandpappy was a moonshiner as was his daddy, and his daddy, and his daddy etc... he brewed beer, made whiskey and yes, he also brewed homemade sodas for the kids.

sasparilla, cherry lime rickey, and blackberry were my favorites.

the first soda pops were made by local proprietors at small delis and malt shops and druggists shops around the nation. these products, (like EVERY PRODUCT KNOWN TO MAN) did not get invented by some nefarious "corporation" for their schemes and evil profits, they were invented, like all inventions by ordinary people who came up with a brilliant idea, or fucked up on the process while trying to make something else.

you demonstrate a FUNDAMENTAL lack of comprehension as to what a corporation is, why they are created, and how they work. despite the extensive marketing campaigns and evil mind control powers that corporations have, i have never been tricked coerced or forced to buy anything except by the government.

i never liked coke, OR pepsi, i once enjoyed mountain dew (before it became sickly sweet and syrupy) but it was never my first choice. in fact i like coffee and tea far more than soda pop except my grandpappy's or my own home brewed stuff, and then only on occasion. my latest batches of orange fizz and root beer will be ready for consumption at my leisure sometime this week, but i may not hit my first bottle for months. its MY CHOICE. some people cant bake bread, i can, so i may buy a nice rye,, or i may make my own sourdough, it depends on my own cost/benefit analysis. some people do not have a yard and thus are not able to grow their own vegetables, so i turn a couple bucks selling my excess vegetables at the farmers market. its commerce. thats why it works. they offer, i choose whether i desire the object enough to pay the price they ask. i cannot manufacture my own bolts and screws (well i COULD but i would have to build a smelter and forge...) so i buy them when i wanna fix my fence. i dont have a tree to cut down and saw into boards either so i MUST buy the wood. see how it works? i trade my sweat, skills and it's proceeds (money) for the things i need that i cannot make or could make but the setup cost would exceed it's utility.

if you are so easily influenced to buy consumer products you dont want or need then might i suggest some therapy, or perhaps some mental conditioning?

the drink i desire is BEER. frosty, cold, and fresh. good thing i made some last month, and i will soon have to brew again.
sometimes i desire coffee, this i must trade for as growing my own coffee tree would be inefficient.
i also like tea, but tea bushes do not thrive in my climate either, so i must trade for that too.
i really like guava juice but i cannot grow a guava tree, so...

when i want strawberries or tomatoes or fresh basil, or thyme, or corn, or bell peppers or scotch bonnet peppers etc etc etc i got that shit on lock. weed too. if i could buy dope for less than it costs me to grow my own, and the quality was the same, and the supply was as steady i would possibly stop growing weed, and just buy it from a respectable grower unfortunately weed is rarely good, and supplies are unstable at the best of times, and the prices are exorbitant, so i grow my own. all in spite of the decades of focus grouping, advertising and propaganda that tells me drugs are bad m'kay...

i guess my mind is just more resiliant than yours. sorry homey. wear a helmet.

 

[Grandpapy]

I have to admit, I wish I was around when Coke Cola first went on the market with cocaine, you know just to try it......