I have a few plant issues. Please help.

[RetiredMatthebrute]

Sun Gro Horticulture has long set the standard for the industry to follow in professionally formulated growing mixes. They formulate their mixes to give consistent results in every bag and bale. Mix #4 is recommended where high air capacity and fast drainage are needed with water and salt sensitive crops, or where frequent leaching is required. Ingredients: Canadian Sphagnum peat moss, coarse perlite, starter nutrient charge (with Gypsum), dolomitic limestone & long-lasting wetting agent.

not exactly sur ewhat the "starter nutrient charge(with gypsum) is but sounds like it already has come kind of salt based nitrogen in it. so yeah im going to stick with the flush and 1/4 str nutes after a week. its probably a burn.

still test that PH it is important

also does sound like this stuff may dry out fast, i dont know from esperience myself but definatly keep an eye on the moisture levels. they do make a moisture meter you can insert into the soil if it becomes that much of an issue but by lifting the pot right after watering you can then just pick up the pot and compare how heavy it is to the amound of moisture in the medium

 

[SOMEBEECH]

I was just going to say that 1000 watts is a bit much for some seedlings, OP how close is it to the plants, and what are the min max temps? There is no reason to use so much power on some seedlings you should go buy some 27 actual watt 6500k CFL's for your plants they will pay for themselves by not using so much power and they will be good enough for the next month - month and a half.

LOL Dislike....Trust me just got to know how to use a 1k,Thts crazy take your CFLs as many as you want and go a month and dont forget the half,In tht time il have a 3ft plant and you might have a Foot.

BEECH

 

[imchucky666]

as far as the soil being dry, im just going by what he said, leaves will wilt a bit when they are thirsty and after watering them 20 min they will perk right back up. i went out to my plants after not watering for 7 days in 90+ degree weather and they were looking almost dead, watered them and went back out and they looked fine. lack of water ownt cause spots thought.

yes PH testing your water and runoff is kinda redundant. it dosent give you any valid information to put into the equation ( i suck at spelling sorry) if you really want to know what the PH is you need to check the PH of the soil itself. feel free to do some research and if im wrong call me out and back it up thats the glory of the interwebz man.

i wasnt trying to be rude either but i wanted to be blunt and informative and him adding more to his mix is not going to help him until he knows for sure it is a deficiency and its not caused by PH lockout.

No, I'm not offended, thanks for the apology/making your intentions clear. If I'm wrong when I try to help somebody with either what I have done, seen done, or read a lot of, I expect somebody would correct me (part of the learning process right?).
I never mentioned PH'ing the runoff, I know some do, but I don't. I just PH my water going in, under the belief that if I'm not jacking with the PH then hopefully it will stay where or close to where it is.
And, when I said the soil looked dry, it was from looking at the color/texture of it in the pic.
We can continue this here, maybe others will either get a kick out of it, or learn from it, doesn't matter to me, or we can PM. Let me know.
Thanks-really. No sarcasm.

 

[hunter22375]

PH testers. Anything other than a chemical test anyone can recommend?

 

[RetiredMatthebrute]

go to amazon.com and buy one that is for soil and has a 1/2 way decent price tag on it. look at reviews as well. i mentioned the chem ones because they are accurate and cheap. if you have money to blow buy a 200$ digital one that you have to buy solutions to set it ans maintain a correct PH reading.

you dont have to put the chemicals into the soil your plants are in you have to remove dirt from the pot and test in a seperate container.

 

[RetiredMatthebrute]

No, I'm not offended, thanks for the apology/making your intentions clear. If I'm wrong when I try to help somebody with either what I have done, seen done, or read a lot of, I expect somebody would correct me (part of the learning process right?).
I never mentioned PH'ing the runoff, I know some do, but I don't. I just PH my water going in, under the belief that if I'm not jacking with the PH then hopefully it will stay where or close to where it is.
And, when I said the soil looked dry, it was from looking at the color/texture of it in the pic.
We can continue this here, maybe others will either get a kick out of it, or learn from it, doesn't matter to me, or we can PM. Let me know.
Thanks-really. No sarcasm.

test the PH of the runoff and compare it to the PH of the solution you are adding, i bet its pretty much the same. which means what
?

 

[SOMEBEECH]

test the PH of the runoff and compare it to the PH of the solution you are adding, i bet its pretty much the same. which means what
?

Waiting for this Answer......LOL Tells tht your meter werks.

 

[RetiredMatthebrute]

im just saying i have watered my plants and watched the water run out the bottom so fast it clearly didnt move through 5 gallons+ of soil so its going to be the same water you just put in.

 

[SOMEBEECH]

im just saying i have watered my plants and watched the water run out the bottom so fast it clearly didnt move through 5 gallons+ of soil so its going to be the same water you just put in.

Bottom feed?

 

[RetiredMatthebrute]

Bottom feed?

outside kinda a pain in the ass since they are in 10 gal pots and i have 7 of them
sprinkler FTW lol

 

[hunter22375]

OK...I'm lost....LOL. There is alot of great info in this thread alone man.

 

[RetiredMatthebrute]

i go by the KISS method, Keep It Simple Stupid

has always worked for me. no fancy nutrients no hi tech gadgets just dirt water and a seed. my plants dont look the best but they are producing some nice buds and thats all that matters in my book

 

[SOMEBEECH]

Like papa said aint broke dont fix huh.

 

[imchucky666]

test the PH of the runoff and compare it to the PH of the solution you are adding, i bet its pretty much the same. which means what
?

Means the soil has 'pretty much' the same PH as what is going in....... Again, I do not check my runoff.

 

[RetiredMatthebrute]

Means the soil has 'pretty much' the same PH as what is going in....... Again, I do not check my runoff.

no it means the soil ahs not had enough time to buffer the solution and its coming out exactly the same solution as you put in. like i said i guess it depends on the situation but the most accurate way to get a accurate PH of your growing medium is by testing the medium itslef.

 

[SOMEBEECH]

no it means the soil ahs not had enough time to buffer the solution and its coming out exactly the same solution as you put in. like i said i guess it depends on the situation but the most accurate way to get a accurate PH of your growing medium is by testing the medium itslef.

Didnt know Soil had AHS ........

 

[RetiredMatthebrute]

Didnt know Soil had AHS ........

AHS? not sur ehwta that is or maybe its just eluding me at the moment

 

[imchucky666]

no it means the soil ahs not had enough time to buffer the solution and its coming out exactly the same solution as you put in. like i said i guess it depends on the situation but the most accurate way to get a accurate PH of your growing medium is by testing the medium itslef.

OK, so in your opinion, did I waste my time when I Ph'ed my water and found out I had almost 7.9?
I've been using distilled vinegar to bring it down to mid 6's since, and haven't had a problem yet. (knock knock)

 

[RetiredMatthebrute]

in my opinion (which dosent mean shit) yes i think its a waste of time

if you havent had any problems, keep doing what your doing wether i think its a waste of time or not its obviously working for you

 

[imchucky666]

in my opinion (which dosent mean shit) yes i think its a waste of time

if you havent had any problems, keep doing what your doing wether i think its a waste of time or not its obviously working for you

Well, that simply means mine doesn't mean shit either, we're not here to measure our internet dicks, we're trying to learn and when possible, help others learn.
We're eventually getting back to the original case of whose opinion/methods works for whom, in which scenario.
Been nice, I gained some insight, and you found out I'm not one of the newbs that thinks he knows 'everything', and I bet we disappointed a few trolls that were waiting for a heated debate so they could jump in.