epsom salt? whats wrong?

[drdavegreenthumb]

i was told i might have a nitrogen problem and epsom salt would help. is this the correct stuff? if so why isnt there nitrogen in it? lol

heres my cindy 99. shes been on hurt mode for only this last week. none of the other 5 plants look this bad and they all are treated the same. watered same amt., on same intervals, same amt. of sun, no plants or ferts. if yall have a diff. opinion on what her prob. is PLEASE let me know.

 

[drdavegreenthumb]

you can compare her to the rest of my plants here https://www.rollitup.org/outdoor-growing/541102-my-first-grow.html.

 

[SSHZ]

Epsom salts add Mg, not Nitrogen. It does not appear to be an N problem to me. N deficiency starts at the bottom leaves of the plant. It's tough to diagnose cause it could be all of 12 different things........

 

[cannabineer]

The poor dear looks famished to me. A shot of cal-mag (the kind with nitrogen) would be my first action. Is that soil or a soilless mix?

 

[drdavegreenthumb]

The poor dear looks famished to me. A shot of cal-mag (the kind with nitrogen) would be my first action. Is that soil or a soilless mix?

soil. and i have a bottle of cal-mag...

 

[cannabineer]

soil. and i have a bottle of cal-mag...

Try a drench with a strongish solution. Is it the cal-mag Plus that's nitrates? cn

 

[drdavegreenthumb]

ya says cal mag plus w. trace minerals. calcium magnesium iron and nitrogen. 2-0-0. she looks even worse than photo shows shows so i hope this works. im gon go feed now. 1tsp/g of water. now does that mean for every g of water? i use 3-4/watering so... 3-4 tsp for her?

 

[cannabineer]

Sounds right. If this doesn't yield results, the next question is: what's your water quality? Do you have another nitrate-based N source handy? cn

 

[drdavegreenthumb]

nothing else... but ill make a purchase if need b. n ive never even ph'd water so might b the problem. plus rep wen i get on computer im mobile right now n dont no how. i appreciate ur time cn. thnx.

 

[faller200]

It could be any of the above or it could have been a plant that was a bit sick and was not drinking as much as the rest but you said that you watered them all the same so over time you over watered that plant. lift the containers and see if the sick one is twice the weight. Looks like some of my over watered plants.

 

[faller200]

As far as the Epsom salts. I add 1/2 tsp per gal every watering. I can't even remember why I've just always done that. Someone out there shuld be able to refresh my memory.

 

[MonsterDrank]

no no. its 2 tsp per gallon epsom for mature plants. that plant looks pretty sickly tho. if it was me, i would ditch it and start over. its probably not going to produce enough bud to make the effort worthwhile.

 

[cannabineer]

If it were my plant, I'd be doing experiments ... see what makes it worse and what makes it better. While it isn't the sort of plant one would want to show off, the distressed ones are the teachers. No learning from mistakes if you don't make'm, and then chase the solution. Jmo. cn

 

[drdavegreenthumb]

no no. its 2 tsp per gallon epsom for mature plants. that plant looks pretty sickly tho. if it was me, i would ditch it and start over. its probably not going to produce enough bud to make the effort worthwhile.

ditch her?!? ya right bro. my 1st grow and id rather learn than give up. im oudoor bro. im not waitn til next season lol. ill try n revive her. thnx for the kind words tho... lol

 

[drdavegreenthumb]

If it were my plant, I'd be doing experiments ... see what makes it worse and what makes it better. While it isn't the sort of plant one would want to show off, the distressed ones are the teachers. No learning from mistakes if you don't make'm, and then chase the solution. Jmo. cn

ur right. i will learn from it. my ph 'tested extremely high, which i expected tho. like i said ive never ph'd before. hopefully just the cal-mag does it, cuz ive never had this xtreme a problem til now.

 

[Opm]

MJ is a crazy tough plant. I've seen them bounce back from all kinds of crazy stuff.

Keep on truckin imo.

 

[drdavegreenthumb]

MJ is a crazy tough plant. I've seen them bounce back from all kinds of crazy stuff.

Keep on truckin imo.

thnx bro thats the plan. im going to buy sum alaskan fish fertilizer, cal mag, and sumthn to lower ph (cant use dolomite lime now can i? is there a liquid lime or sumthn?). hopefully i can get her goin again.

 

[cannabineer]

thnx bro thats the plan. im going to buy sum alaskan fish fertilizer, cal mag, and sumthn to lower ph (cant use dolomite lime now can i? is there a liquid lime or sumthn?). hopefully i can get her goin again.

Lowering pH: two approaches.

In soil, folks use aluminum sulfate. This is popular with hydrangea growers who like their flowers blue.

Better approach: hydro "pH-down" which is typically phosphoric and sometimes nitric acid.

When you say your pH is extremely high ... numbers? Where and when measured? cn

 

[alley.walker]

Just exactly how much of that Epson Salt did you add? Anything more than a pinch.. What you could put in a 1 hitter is to much per 5 gallons.. FLUSH! FLUSH! FLUSH!

 

[cannabineer]

Just exactly how much of that Epson Salt did you add? Anything more than a pinch.. What you could put in a 1 hitter is to much per 5 gallons.. FLUSH! FLUSH! FLUSH!

Actually, Epsom isn't very dense. A gram per liter is a good dosing, and a gram is most of a teaspoon. I always weigh the stuff. cn