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The Religio-Industrial Complex

olylifter420

Well-Known Member
Immoral.....



It isn't though. There are things between Christians in Christianity that hold true no matter where the person is from, like that Jesus is the son of God, he gave his life as a sacrifice for all mankind, etc.. The one and only thing common among atheists is they don't believe in a god. So the comparison of militant atheism in the Soviet Union doesn't hold water.

And, to be clear, it IS in fact Christianity, not only fanatical Christians themselves, that are a big problem. Christianity itself is immoral, as are most other religions most people blindly practice.
 

olylifter420

Well-Known Member
It is sad that not all atheists are like neer. I like neer for his unbiased insights on these touchy subjects. Others come on like those hardcore televangical lunatics.



...thanks neer. I agree that religions that have entranced people are bad. I just don't agree that all religions are 'bad', or 'useless', etc. Everything has value.

...also, what happens when a person finds a kink in a scientific text book? We all 'wrap' our own thoughts into what we read and are able to move on in an academic text without discounting the rest of it. We get back to those sticky parts later when we've come to grasp other parts of the whole.

Did that last part make enough sense? :)
 

cannabineer

Ursus marijanus
Immoral.....
The proposition can be tested by a truly thorough and independent study of the Bible or any central Abrahamic text. It is my experience that the texts contain irresoluble internal inconsistencies (contradictions) that block any literal/fundamental implementation of the text as manual for living. And yet each text contains as a core instruction "do not deviate from this teaching". If something is operationally impossible, one must reduce it to the doable. In the process, interpretations and other deviations from the core text are necessarily adopted. It leave the practitioner ... unavoidably a heretic. That cannot be entirely moral, not for the follower ... and clearly, emphatically not for the drafters and administrators of the tradition. cn

<edit> I just saw the post above this, Oly. Thank you for the compliment; i appreciate it greatly.
 

olylifter420

Well-Known Member
I was re stating that word from pads statement.

I find it funny that complaining some beliefs are immoral while at the same time mocking and belittling individuals for sharing different views is not immoral?

Lol



The proposition can be tested by a truly thorough and independent study of the Bible or any central Abrahamic text. It is my experience that the texts contain irresoluble internal inconsistencies (contradictions) that block any literal/fundamental implementation of the text as manual for living. And yet each text contains as a core instruction "do not deviate from this teaching". If something is operationally impossible, one must reduce it to the doable. In the process, interpretations and other deviations from the core text are necessarily adopted. It leave the practitioner ... unavoidably a heretic. That cannot be entirely moral, not for the follower ... and clearly, emphatically not for the drafters and administrators of the tradition. cn
 

cannabineer

Ursus marijanus
I was re stating that word from pads statement.

I find it funny that complaining some beliefs are immoral while at the same time mocking and belittling individuals for sharing different views is not immoral?

Lol
Mocking and belittling others for holding heterodox views is two things, Oly:

1) Not right.
2) A universal feature of the human condition.

Jmo. cn
 
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