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Who Is Worse And Why- Obama Vs Romney

ChesusRice

Well-Known Member
Well you're comparing our piece of shit "affordable care act" with other countries government health care systems. It's not even remotely the same thing.
yeah your right
It aint free in mexico either
But it is affordable
Even a retiree with no job like expatriate Mr Neutron can afford it
as a matter of fact one of the reasons american retirees are moving to mexico is becuase of their affordable goverment health care plan
 

NoDrama

Well-Known Member
as a matter of fact one of the reasons american retirees are moving to mexico is becuase of their affordable goverment health care plan
That might be a influencing factor but I doubt a significant number of retirees moved to Mexico just so they could be on the healthcare plan.

A lot of retirees have Medicare, Medicare can be used in Mexico, or anywhere.
 

ChesusRice

Well-Known Member
That might be a influencing factor but I doubt a significant number of retirees moved to Mexico just so they could be on the healthcare plan.

A lot of retirees have Medicare, Medicare can be used in Mexico, or anywhere.
Actually
No

[h=3]Medicare and Medicaid[/h]If your only source of coverage is Medicare or Medicaid, you effectively have no health insurance outside the U.S. Medicaid pays only for services in the 50 states; Washington, D.C.; and U.S. territories such as Puerto Rico. Medicare is nearly as strict, though it provides coverage in Canada and Mexico when an emergency occurs in the U.S. but the nearest hospital is over the border. You're also covered if you're hurt or fall ill in Canada while on a direct route to Alaska. But in any other country, neither program pays for health services -- even for emergencies.

http://www.cnn.com/2007/TRAVEL/ADVISOR/05/15/health.coverage/index.html
 

ChesusRice

Well-Known Member
That might be a influencing factor but I doubt a significant number of retirees moved to Mexico just so they could be on the healthcare plan.

A lot of retirees have Medicare, Medicare can be used in Mexico, or anywhere.
however

By Chris Hawley, USA TODAY

MEXICO CITY — It sounds almost too good to be true: a
health care plan with no limits, no deductibles, free medicines, tests, X-rays,
eyeglasses, even dental work — all for a flat fee of $250 or less a year.

To get it, you just have to move to Mexico.


As the United States debates an overhaul of its health care
system, thousands of American retirees in Mexico have quietly found a solution
of their own, signing up for the health care plan run by the Mexican Social
Security Institute.

http://www.usatoday.com/news/world/2009-08-31-mexico-health-care_N.htm
 

ginwilly

Well-Known Member
Obama kills citizens without due process yet hangs with a guy that he would have killed had he been president during the weather underground bombings. He also appointed an execution czar to carry out these acts in his name in case he's busy. I can't support this.

I have no clue who Romney is, candidate Romney vs Gov Romney would be a cool debate to watch. AFAIK the only person he's killed is that man's wife in the Obama ad.
 

nontheist

Well-Known Member
Obama kills citizens without due process yet hangs with a guy that he would have killed had he been president during the weather underground bombings. He also appointed an execution czar to carry out these acts in his name in case he's busy. I can't support this.

I have no clue who Romney is, candidate Romney vs Gov Romney would be a cool debate to watch. AFAIK the only person he's killed is that man's wife in the Obama ad.
Would like to also add that Obama's lobbyist is trying to control the internet another thing I am very against.
 

ChesusRice

Well-Known Member
Obama kills citizens without due process yet hangs with a guy that he would have killed had he been president during the weather underground bombings. He also appointed an execution czar to carry out these acts in his name in case he's busy. I can't support this.

I have no clue who Romney is, candidate Romney vs Gov Romney would be a cool debate to watch. AFAIK the only person he's killed is that man's wife in the Obama ad.
Obama didnt "pal around" with Bill Ayers
But anyways. If you want to know all about the weathermen
here ya go
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Bill_Ayers
 

Mr Neutron

Well-Known Member
That might be a influencing factor but I doubt a significant number of retirees moved to Mexico just so they could be on the healthcare plan.

A lot of retirees have Medicare, Medicare can be used in Mexico, or anywhere.
I haven't found one American who is in the system or any Mexican who can tell me anything good about it.
 

ChesusRice

Well-Known Member
I haven't found one American who is in the system or any Mexican who can tell me anything good about it.
You aint looking to either
yet i can find a whole bunch in under 30 seconds using this piece of technology called
'google"

Do they have google where you are in Mexico?
I am guessing they dont
Becuase you are so uninformed and misinformed
I am guessing you only have access to talk radio that gets rush limbaugh
 

Mr Neutron

Well-Known Member
You aint looking to either
yet i can find a whole bunch in under 30 seconds using this piece of technology called
'google"

Do they have google where you are in Mexico?
I am guessing they dont
Becuase you are so uninformed and misinformed
I am guessing you only have access to talk radio that gets rush limbaugh
What country do you live in?
 

Mr Neutron

Well-Known Member
So you cant afford 250 bucks a year?
Your reasoning is flawed. I had a bit of a tough time coming up with my IRS extortion payment, even though my income was only $56 over the poverty threshold.
Why should I fork out more than I get in one month on the chance that I may​ need it.
 

nontheist

Well-Known Member
You aint looking to either
yet i can find a whole bunch in under 30 seconds using this piece of technology called
'google"

Do they have google where you are in Mexico?
I am guessing they dont
Becuase you are so uninformed and misinformed
I am guessing you only have access to talk radio that gets rush limbaugh
Chesus have you ever been out of the US? Someone that is married to a pinoy you are very ill informed about developing countries medical institutions. Most people that can fly to mexico and pay for a surgery can afford insurance, why do you think they would go there to get it done?
 

ChesusRice

Well-Known Member
What's the difference if my medical costs are less than that?
I shouldnt really care
Not a bit
you will be a drain on mexico when you have a health issue
Please dont come crawling back over the border if you are diagnosed with something serious
We dont need anymore free loading right wingers leeching off our health care systems
 

ChesusRice

Well-Known Member
Chesus have you ever been out of the US? Someone that is married to a pinoy you are very ill informed about developing countries medical institutions. Most people that can fly to mexico and pay for a surgery can afford insurance, why do you think they would go there to get it done?
"It was one of the primary reasons I moved here," said Judy Harvey of Prescott
Valley, who now lives in Alamos, Sonora. "I couldn't afford health care in the
United States. … To me, this is the best system that there is."
 

Mr Neutron

Well-Known Member
You aint looking to either
yet i can find a whole bunch in under 30 seconds using this piece of technology called
'google"

Do they have google where you are in Mexico?
I am guessing they dont
Becuase you are so uninformed and misinformed
I am guessing you only have access to talk radio that gets rush limbaugh
Sure, we got the google and the internets and the cable TV, we gots it all.
You believe what you want while I talk to real people that live here, nKay punkin'?
 

ChesusRice

Well-Known Member
Chesus have you ever been out of the US? Someone that is married to a pinoy you are very ill informed about developing countries medical institutions. Most people that can fly to mexico and pay for a surgery can afford insurance, why do you think they would go there to get it done?
The program has helped people such as Ron and Jemmy Miller
of Shawano, Wis. They decided to retire early, but knew affording health care
was going to be a problem.

Ron was a self-employed contractor, and Jemmy was a loan
officer at a bank. At ages 61 and 52, respectively, they were too young to
qualify for Medicare, but too old to risk not having health insurance.

"We knew that we couldn't retire without Medicare," Jemmy
Miller said. "We're pretty much in Mexico now because we can't afford health
care in the States."

The couple learned about IMSS from Mexico guidebooks and
the Internet. They moved to the central city of Irapuato in 2006, got residency
visas as foreign retirees, and then enrolled in IMSS.
 
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