UncleBuck
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ya know what really grinds my gears?LOL!
But seriously, I think whoever gets the keys will be grinding the gears for the next 4 years...
ya know what really grinds my gears?LOL!
But seriously, I think whoever gets the keys will be grinding the gears for the next 4 years...
Well dammit I can't help you, but I like this thread so...Kinda not what I asked though, I really want folks to tell me what Romney has going for him - I am willing to listen to their arguments as to why he will make a good president.
Let's hope he has the house but not the Senate, neither party has shown they can handle the holy trinity of government responsibly.How will he do that? presume that he has the house but not the Senate. What will he enact from the Whitehouse?
that was the bush approach. how'd that work out?
Nope, you are not correct. Although that was his strategy, that's not what caused the mess we are in. This mess was caused by the Dem's unleashing Fannie Mae and Freddie Mac, pushing them (and therefore mortgage lendors) to make home loans to people that should have not gotten them. Then, in turn, those bad mortgages, went bad and were lumped together as good mortgages and resold numerous times to unsuspecting banks and investors, etc.- who took the loss. It's simplistic but the truth.
Buck, you are such a simpleton. I can't wait for your response......
47th in job creationHe also was able to give his citizens what they were asking for yet leave the state with a rainy day fund and maintain full employment.
You could expand on this and say the CRA put on steroids helped perpetuate the Fannie/Freddie fiasco. NAFTA hurt US business if you believe in protectionism and the repeal of Glass-Steagall allowed these banks to gamble with protection of the tax payers while leveraging 40 to 1. You could place all of this blame squarely on Clinton or you could realize he was dealing with a republican house and Senate that pushed for this. I can't point at a party and place blame when I feel it's the system our apathy allowed to be created. A system where bribes are called donations and there is no such thing as a conflict of interest is our biggest problem. Well, an apathetic public when we are designed to be of, for and by the people is the culprit.Nope, you are not correct. Although that was his strategy, that's not what caused the mess we are in. This mess was caused by the Dem's unleashing Fannie Mae and Freddie Mac, pushing them (and therefore mortgage lendors) to make home loans to people that should have not gotten them. Then, in turn, those bad mortgages, went bad and were lumped together as good mortgages and resold numerous times to unsuspecting banks and investors, etc.- who took the loss. It's simplistic but the truth.
Buck, you are such a simpleton. I can't wait for your response......
i'll let shrub respond to this jumbling of history. remember how the senate and house were both in GOP control, and bush bragged about the "ownership society"?Nope, you are not correct. Although that was his strategy, that's not what caused the mess we are in. This mess was caused by the Dem's unleashing Fannie Mae and Freddie Mac, pushing them (and therefore mortgage lendors) to make home loans to people that should have not gotten them. Then, in turn, those bad mortgages, went bad and were lumped together as good mortgages and resold numerous times to unsuspecting banks and investors, etc.- who took the loss. It's simplistic but the truth.
Buck, you are such a simpleton. I can't wait for your response......
He had full employment, kinda useless to create new jobs when there is nobody to fill them.47th in job creation
Nothing is free, if people want a bunch of shit it has to be paid for. Free healthcare is actually very very costly. I hope you are criticizing present leadership for the same.and that rainy day fund came on the backs of the middle class and working poor: he increased fees on everything, which is an effective tax that hits the middle class and working poor especially tough.
I want free shit too, gimmie gimmie. Difference is I don't actually believe in a free lunch and my morals won't allow me to take from someone else so I can have it. I've been stolen from and it really sucks. Those people had no right to just come and take what I had worked for. I despise a thief, don't you? For this reason if I feel strongly enough about a want I have, I'm willing to make the sacrifices to make that happen.can you cite for me where the people of MA called for fees on everything to increase? thought so.
I think I could vote for Quayle before Palin or Bachman. With the expansion of Executive powers the last 12 years the thought makes me ill.You could march Dan Quayle up to the podium as the Conservative candidate and I'd vote for him this year.
Really! Is that your final answer?No one
"forced" bad loans to be made The CRA is not the principle factor in the crash. To blame the poor or to blame government "force" is incorrect and it is a myth that is perpetuated over and over again.
How exactly were mortgage lenders pushed into making loans they didn't want to make? Also, the CEOs of all the major banks have been called before congress multiple times to discuss the financial crisis and yet not one CEO ever said they were forced into doing something that was against their best interest. If there was such a law that was twisting their arm, don't you think they might have mentioned it?Nope, you are not correct. Although that was his strategy, that's not what caused the mess we are in. This mess was caused by the Dem's unleashing Fannie Mae and Freddie Mac, pushing them (and therefore mortgage lendors) to make home loans to people that should have not gotten them. Then, in turn, those bad mortgages, went bad and were lumped together as good mortgages and resold numerous times to unsuspecting banks and investors, etc.- who took the loss. It's simplistic but the truth.
Buck, you are such a simpleton. I can't wait for your response......
HeI want free shit too, gimmie gimmie. Difference is I don't actually believe in a free lunch and my morals won't allow me to take from someone else so I can have it. I've been stolen from and it really sucks. Those people had no right to just come and take what I had worked for. I despise a thief, don't you? For this reason if I feel strongly enough about a want I have, I'm willing to make the sacrifices to make that happen.
It wasn't just the poor, a lot of well off folks allowed themselves into being suckered into inflated home values and extremely low ARMs. Refis are as much to blame as new loans.No, this is factually incorrect SSHZ, the majority of bad loans and the majority of packaged loans were made by independent morgage lenders. No one
"forced" bad loans to be made The CRA is not the principle factor in the crash. To blame the poor or to blame government "force" is incorrect and it is a myth that is perpetuated over and over again.
I'm voting for whichever candidate's views and professed policy will be the closest to the absolute opposite of everything I hear and see from the current administration, AND has a actual shot in hell of winning. If that happens to be Romney this election, so be it. The thought of Obama getting another liberal scumbag on the SCOTUS is enough to turn my stomach.
It may not be answering by your guidelines, but I don't really give a shit about your guidelines.
The reality is he isn't Obama, Pelosi, Reid or Clinton, so he's the tits in my book. You could march Dan Quayle up to the podium as the Conservative candidate and I'd vote for him this year.
You missed the context. This was in reference to Buck saying fees were raised against people's wishes. I was explaining that is how people get shit they want. If they demand shit but don't want to pay for it then they have to take from others. It's not rocket surgery.I thought we were finished with this "taxes are theft" discussion. "The people" have a right to have you pay for services rendered just as they themselves paid.
It wasn't just the poor, a lot of well off folks allowed themselves into being suckered into inflated home values and extremely low ARMs. Refis are as much to blame as new loans.
My loan manager told me herself that she had to hold good candidates approvals until they could find more sub-primes to keep the numbers in line because of political pressure. Threats were made with FDIC backing used as leverage. She says her bank had a 20% "unofficial" quota.
Still, personal responsibility is only a memory for our society, that's the true cause. The loan officer approving loans to people who couldn't afford it and people who couldn't afford it taking those loans share in the blame.