How to delineate growing experience from the typicall 2 yr "master"
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Lucius Vorenus
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Don't trust that a bit. He is all over all the meetings and industry. Yet won't toke. I just don't trust it. Nice guy though
BadAndy
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What does smoking weed have anything to do with being an honest or reliable person????
I am not sticking up for the insurance guy I just have a serious problem with the statement that if ya dont smoke with someone they are untrustable.
I DONT smoke weed and I still grow Mmj, work in a dispensary, and have several people who would vouche for me.
I usually dont mind the things you say but that was just fucking stupid
Lucius Vorenus
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I wont comment anymore publicly on that particular issue. Good luck in whomever you choose to go with.
BadAndy
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I live in colorado im not going with anyone...i said that in my last post.
I just have issue with you saying someone who doesnt smoke pot is untrustworthy
Lucius Vorenus
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I don't believe you will see those words coming out of my mouth but you certainly did read into it.
DBanfelder
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Howdy gentlemen: Yes it's true - I don't smoke anymore; in fact it's been many years. I am currently a non-cultivating caregiver: instead of growing I do public affairs work for my collective. While I understand the mentality of "if he don't toke he ain't one of us" (having been there), consider this: if we really believe that everyone who wants to use cannabis should be able to, free from fear of prosecution, that is, truly bring it to the masses, than we have to make it socially "safe", and doing so means leaving much of the counterculture thinking behind. In order to go big, we instead have to think and act like the majority of Americans who are becoming comfortable with cannabis.
Anyway... Insurance. Yes, it's available for dispensaries, delivery services, product manufacturers, and grows. The coverage is underwritten by Lloyds, not a U.S. firm. Values are standard wholesale for seeds, clones, and immature plants. Flowering and harvested plant values depend upon your yield. Per pound values run from $2500-3200 (wholesale, remember).
What assurance do you have of my confidentiality? Only my reputation, which I depend upon for my living. Why would I work in this particular niche if I wasn't fully invested in the movement? There are LOTS of other industries that need insurance and don't come with anywhere near the risks of this one. And, yes, I have a non-disclosure form.
Kal El and Wolfhound, thanks for the good words. Wolfhound, I expect to get my FJR back on the road this fall, so let's get out there again, mebbe do a ride to eat?
Anyway... Insurance. Yes, it's available for dispensaries, delivery services, product manufacturers, and grows. The coverage is underwritten by Lloyds, not a U.S. firm. Values are standard wholesale for seeds, clones, and immature plants. Flowering and harvested plant values depend upon your yield. Per pound values run from $2500-3200 (wholesale, remember).
What assurance do you have of my confidentiality? Only my reputation, which I depend upon for my living. Why would I work in this particular niche if I wasn't fully invested in the movement? There are LOTS of other industries that need insurance and don't come with anywhere near the risks of this one. And, yes, I have a non-disclosure form.
Kal El and Wolfhound, thanks for the good words. Wolfhound, I expect to get my FJR back on the road this fall, so let's get out there again, mebbe do a ride to eat?
Chronicseeker
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Not a stateside firm, a small stipulation I pointed out earlier.
No disrespect to you DB.
Ride Safe...
Lucius Vorenus
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Before paying for any insurance of a crop I will need to see examples of where an out of country firm paid out to growers of lost crops here in the states.
BeaverHuntr
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Cayman Islands!!!! lol
personified
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Besides the many obvious other reasons. Who will determine what market value is? After all we can not even determine that right now it is in such a flux. Who gets to determine what the weight of the crop would be at harvest? Is some one at Llyods of London an expert in this market? Does he know the differnce between schwag and good bud?
If I do not like the settlement...What recourse would I have? I do not think the courts are going to hear the case.
If I do not like the settlement...What recourse would I have? I do not think the courts are going to hear the case.
Chronicseeker
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Who would get paid out? Obviously the ones who took out the insurance, the directors.
So now if the claim magically did get settled, the grower would have to rely on the owners to cough up a portion of the funds for strain reimbursement?
ESP. after the gardener proved that they could not grow worth a damn or the facility had a an issue like a fire.
I think not...
personified
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Is someone that follows a nutrient schedual from a fert company an expert grower? Does it take a lot of skill to pour nutrients when the chart tells you to do so? Is it that hard to check pH? What skills are necessary to grow with a schedual?
I agree that diagnosing a problem is a skill. However, I can not see soiless as difficult other than the constant work associated.
Please enlighten me.
I agree that diagnosing a problem is a skill. However, I can not see soiless as difficult other than the constant work associated.
Please enlighten me.
Chronicseeker
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There is nothing wrong with following an established feeding schedule. However, a long-time veteran grower will most likely have developed their own method of feeding catered to each girl in the garden. Some plants require more water and some are heavier feeders than others, an experienced gardener will forgo using the recommended feeding dictated on a bottle of nutrients and use what the plants shows it desires. This does not mean that the directions on these products are not a good place to start but after a few runs with a plant, a conscious growers will realize that each strain needs special attention. Also, lots of the products on the shelves are designed to be used in conjunction with one another, so users will buy the entire nutrient line. I have realized that sometimes using a specific line of nutes can actually leave out extremely important elements, minerals etc. Personally, I have built my own feeding chart for almost every plant, some feedings are very similar while other are radically different. I also combine many different products that I have personally tested over the years and found to enjoy their outcome. For instance, some companies that put fish meal in their products only use low grade, ground fish gut left overs while other use high quality, cold pressed, tuna belly. With that said, put yourself in the position, if you wanted the best nutrient value would you settled for a generic combination of vitamins or would you take the time to find the best supplements that work with your body and that give you physical/rapid results?
No, I am not out buying the most expensive nutrients either, some of the best products are not sold in stores around town and are unbelievably affordable. I wholeheartedly do not believe following the bottle on a two/three part nutrient solution gets the job done correctly, in any instance, but to each their own. IMO a "master" touting a two or three part is a red flag. It may work to grow some herb, so does water and soil, but to dial in a strain is much more complex.
personified
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Lucius Vorenus
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I don't even emasure anything anymore. I just eyeball everything. Only feed every 3 days and feed feed, water. I just always use 5 gal cans when mixing my feed and by memory i know how much of everything gets me to my desired 1400ppm in flower and 800ppm in veg.
Chronicseeker
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That might work for you now, but eyeballing mixtures can be dangerous esp. in hydro. Also, desired ppm will vary from plant to plant during different stages of flower.
1337hacker
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I've got a built in ph meter and ppm meter in my brain, I'm the best.
DesertGuru
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Thats what will get you a job. Walk into the flower room. Dip your finger in the res likes its a bag of coke in a cop movie. Give it a little taste... *lets it run under the tongue* huh.. not enough calcium.. 6.2 no no... 6.0ph. 1200ppm ish....