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DrGreener

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i want to use totes for sure but how do you catch runoff??? I think its critical when soil growing to catch at least 10 percent runoff every watering. how do u catch the runoff water???
catching runoff is a myth buddy, i found in the past its better to have less water then to much by saturating your soil you are actually blocking out oxygen to the roots this creating slow growth by doing a 4 - 5 day watering cycle like day one feed day 3 give it water day 5 feed your in sense being more efficient them buckets get 25 liters of fluid a week
 

t2kallday

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catching runoff is a myth buddy, i found in the past its better to have less water then to much by saturating your soil you are actually blocking out oxygen to the roots this creating slow growth by doing a 4 - 5 day watering cycle like day one feed day 3 give it water day 5 feed your in sense being more efficient them buckets get 25 liters of fluid a week
i going to get the same totes how much water does it take for a sufficient water?
 

DrFrankenstien

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Thanks for the heads up, I looked closer and she was just waiting to be spread.
if i were you i would flip to flower giving it takes another 12 days + stretch you might run into problems of table to full
Good point after the last spread the screen was about 80% full . I'm also running a uvb bulb first time trying but I've had a few runs without one so I'll definitely see if it works or not. She's sleeping for the next 48 here's a pic before lights out .
 

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DrGreener

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yea man them totes are the only way to grow so much more cleaner what i do is take my clone and place them in my training pot train them for my veg period ( i do the lst tieing plant around pot once its all around i then release all the ties and let her grow meantime getting them totes ready then i transplant veg another 2 weeks or what ever time you want then flip,
as for watering like i said 5 day cycle you will get a feel on how much they need feed then 3 days later water when i justr water i add little less probably give 15 liters a week including both food and water to every tote lots of factors heat , growth rate etc i put my hand in soil feel how moist it is but having plant soil to wet causes slow growth least from my experience but i do make a 1" hole on all totes bottom corner this way if you really want to flush you can i use some bricks to raise my bucket and frying pan lol to flush if needed so its time consuming but i love spending time in the room
i can guarntee you will see increase in yields by 20 - 40 percent more just by root zone size
think of it like a fish tank you got 10 gallon tank fish in it they only grow to there surrounding area now take 2 fish out of that 10 gallon tank place it in 40 gallon tank in 30 days them fish in big tank will be considerably bigger FACT :)) cheers and can't wait to see your set up
 

DrFrankenstien

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So I'm trying out giving my baby darkness between the flip, ghs grow sessions talk about 4 or 5 days of darkness, i'm at 2 today, has anyone tried it? Here's an under shot before darkness...
 

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DrGreener

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So I'm trying out giving my baby darkness between the flip, ghs grow sessions talk about 4 or 5 days of darkness, i'm at 2 today, has anyone tried it? Here's an under shot before darkness...
Don't waste your time get lights on 12 / 12 where on earth do you get 3 - 4 days of total darkness other then north pole where nothing grows ???? your trying to mimic mother natures seasons autumn, where daylight hrs shorten thus producing the fruits for harvest ,
now there is some debate on keeping lights off when completed for like 72 hrs theres bin tests and some strains may produce my resins during this time others there was no difference so
so maybe you got it mixed up ????
fcking around with darkness and light IMO will only stress plant and make a hermie
 

DrGreener

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T2K i was lookin at wally mart other day , there's some nice 38 gallon deep totes for a decent price
Here are some day 23 pics of the girls there really starting to take off today is water day for them 3 -4 gallons each then two days after Feed plants really seem to like the schedule look at pic 872 lol frost already
 

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kpmarine

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Don't waste your time get lights on 12 / 12 where on earth do you get 3 - 4 days of total darkness other then north pole where nothing grows ???? your trying to mimic mother natures seasons autumn, where daylight hrs shorten thus producing the fruits for harvest ,
now there is some debate on keeping lights off when completed for like 72 hrs theres bin tests and some strains may produce my resins during this time others there was no difference so
so maybe you got it mixed up ????
fcking around with darkness and light IMO will only stress plant and make a hermie
There is a degree of legitimacy to this, in theory. MJ produces the flowering hormones during lights out. So 36 hours of darkness seems to be popular before flowering, for sativas anyways. 4 days seems like the light dep would starve your plants though.
 

DrGreener

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Personally its a waste of time i agree if you want to change time of day or night when lights come on then give it extra 4 - 12 hrs of darkness but all you are really doing is stressing plant its not going to make it flower any faster Sativa or not all your doing is wasted 3 - 5 days of growth with no lights on her its all genetics and millions of years of evolution
no diff then you you wake up in morn you need to piss , now if you stopped drinking night before guess what when you wake up in morning your still going to need to piss its inbedded in our genetics
 

DrFrankenstien

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Interesting, well she got the 48... I'm using advanced nutes as well as ultra ( bloom) it said to do 36 hours darkness. The reasoning behind it apparently the cellular walls become more pliable after darkness... Which eases the emerging flowers through the walls of the stems ... Green house seeds, creator of the slh beans that I acquired state they do this for up to 4 days... So I figured why not.. if anything my screen was almost full so a little less stress would be great
 

mike91sr

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lol well it kinda made sense :) a plant will flip when its ready to flip as well i have done 24 hrs lights off and noticed no difference in quicker flowering phase
A plant won't flip itself when its ready lol, it changes when you flip the lighting schedule. And it could be(and is) claimed that changing the way you change the light schedule will also change the way the plant reacts. Just because you didn't see a difference within 12 extra hours doesn't mean something didn't change on a hormonal level. I'm also not saying it does work, just that a single inconclusive observation isnt grounds for substantiating a claim like that.
 

woodsmantoker

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My buds, THey have a month or so left. Any suggestions? Yield estimates?
Howdy Pal! Suggestions eh? Well you may be a bit under lit brother, maybe bring what you have in closer keeping temperature in mind/check. It looks like your screening material may retain moisture. Keep that in mind going through flowering (switch materials next run), mold and mildew are serious issues to be aware of when scrogging they can ruin your work. To keep an even cannopy, your light distribution would also need to be delivered uniformly. The largest surface area of the bulb should be what is directed at your cannopy. Having any of your lights closer to the plants than any other, works against the overall concept and results in uneven growth. If you are using multi spectrum lighting by means of various types of bulb (ie. hps and cfl), consider the light intensity and loss at a various distances (LIM meters can measure this more accurately than your eyes). "If I were new to the method of Scrog, I would read through this entire thread." Woodsmantoker~
 
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