As usual you missed the point. Profit as in corporate insurance companies, corporate hospitals and corporate doctor exchanges, IE big profit mill doctor clinics. Single payer would eliminate the profit from these rip-off entities. Yes I believe doctors should be paid well, more on their performance than their affiliation with corporations. Single payer would open up the schools for more doctors as subsidies could be paid to get them through medical schools that could be paid back by performing public service. Get capitalism out of medicine, that's what I'm all about, and that includes big corporate pharma. Research could be done at universities, stop with the millions in advertising and put that money into research and clinical trials.
putting the words "corporate" or "Big" in front of something that covers a feild as gigantic as medicine displays a lazy intellect.
"big profit mill doctor clinics" ohh no!! somebody stop the terror of BIG CLINIC! youre trying too hard. doctors form associations among themselves, create multidiscipline practices to reduce costs and improve communication, then they get equipment, buy a larger building and become a fucking hospital. a country doctor with an office and exam room in his house is NOT the choice you want if you need a heart transplant, or chemotherapy. you want a hospital or, as you so quaintly put it:
"big profit mill doctor clinics" buildings, equipment, and payroll are fucking expensive. a small medical group cant just open a hospital with good vibes and a desire to "change the world" they need investors. the investors want to get some moeny back, so the hospital must be a business. just like a farm is a business, a store is a business, and a goddamned insurance company is a business. if outgoings exceed incomings then your business (hospital farm store or insurance company) goes out of business. your perspective is the perspective of the employee who sees only the trappings of wealth not the work and time it takes to get that wealth.
even in your fantasyland of "free healthcare" the government will have to take in
MORE TAXES THAN YOUR MEDICAL CARE COSTS just to balance the books. record keeping, maintenance of buildings and equipment, insurance against loss or lawsuit, groundskeeping, transportation, energy costs, the mandarins who shuffle the papers, ink for bureaucrat stamps, all this shit adds to the costs of all medical care, if the government ran it all then things would either be
A: Absolutely Fucked Up DMV style
or
B: taxes so high you basically work for the government for 4/5 of the year.
"Big Pharma" is even less scary than your boogey man of
"big profit mill doctor clinics" youre trying too hard. it's not working. Pharmaceutical companies do lots of fucked up shit, but you are not required by law to use their products. most of their shit doesnt even do much besides ease the side effects of other drugs. most of
"Big Pharma's" money is found not in lifesaving medications, but rather, erection pills and "eat all the garbage you want and never get heartburn" pills.
Good thread though! We want Universal Single Payer just like Canada, Australia, New Zealand.. yup pretty much the UK those damn socialists rot you scum bags!
