Nonbelievers, how did you lose your religion?

Metasynth

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Words of truth. It seems like when all else fails, even the most god hating and atheist person will turn to him for protection. Anybody that reads this will deny it, but id be willing to bet a million bucks that its true.
I would think it depends highly on the circumstances of your impending death, and who you are surrounded with at the time. I cannot even imagine me being with my family, sitting in some circle praying as a meteor speeds towards the destruction of earth. But if I were say, a soldier, dying alone on a battlefield, IF I wasn't crying for my mother or father, I might cry out to 'god' in a moment of pure abandonment.
 

Metasynth

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When you face inevitable death, you will pray to God. Trust me.
But that is like saying that any terminal medical patient will suddenly drop their entire belief system and begin to pray to a judeo-christian god...I assure you, this is not the case.
 

Padawanbater2

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But if I were say, a soldier, dying alone on a battlefield, IF I wasn't crying for my mother or father, I might cry out to 'god' in a moment of pure abandonment.
This example defines the entire reason organized religion has been so successful throughout the ages.


Fear.
 

Hepheastus420

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I would think it depends highly on the circumstances of your impending death, and who you are surrounded with at the time. I cannot even imagine me being with my family, sitting in some circle praying as a meteor speeds towards the destruction of earth. But if I were say, a soldier, dying alone on a battlefield, IF I wasn't crying for my mother or father, I might cry out to 'god' in a moment of pure abandonment.
Atheist in the foxhole. I have a feeling that I'm gonna try my hardest to believe in god and ask for forgiveness on my death bed but won't be able to lie to myself enough to satisfy my wish.
 

UncleBuck

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seriously though, i lost a baseball and concluded that Dog didn't exist. i thought this thread was about shit like that.
 

mindphuk

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When you face inevitable death, you will pray to God. Trust me.
And I will strike down upon thee with great vengeance and furious anger those who attempt to poison and destroy my brothers. And you will know I am the Lord when I lay my vengeance upon you!

nice avatar
 

Kaendar

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Nice thread pad.

At this moment I'm having a serious brain fart and I can't really remember my journey. I will give what I can remember though.

1994-2001: Happy as can be. No influence of religion or didn't have to think hard to be happy. There was no logic thoughts and there were no illogical thoughts. I just lived in the now.

2001-2002: I remember having an amazing dog that was my friend. I loved that dog and played with him all the time. I don't remember his cause of death but I remember feeling grief. My father told me he went to "doggy heaven. I was so gullible. I didn't question what he told me since it made me feel alot of joy that his death was a good thing. Faith was born.

2002-2006: I would visit my grandma alot and every once in a while she would take me to church. She has a thick spanish heritage and understands spanish the best. Needless to say, the church she took to me had a spanish speaking preacher. I couldn't understand a word he was saying. My grandma would translate the basics for me. God loves you so be good. Don't kill, steal, or be bad. No questioning from me since it wasn't neccessary.

2009: For some reason I catch on to conspriacies and get more interested in those than my "religion" (which I still haven't looked into). I start researching the illuminati, the mayans prophecy, and all that crap. While watching youtube videos, I would watch related videos on religions and how god would stop all these people. I got deep into conspiracies and UFOs which lead me to believe the world was evil and god was the only way to justice. I start researching more about religion and my faith builds a new strength. My faith is the strongest it's ever been at this point.

Through my HS years, I mentioned religion to some of my friends and it turns out most of them were atheists. They wouldn't mess with me or anything. They just said they were atheist and dropped the subject. Nuetral subject with them.

2010: I actually start thinking. I don't want to. I converse with different people on the subject. Friends tell me it's ok not to have a religion. My dad tells me he doesn't think I should question it. I was too scared to ask my grandma since I know she would just be pissed. I pretty much kept my thoughts to myself. "oh well.. I just need to keep my faith strong. Everything will be fine if I trust in god".

2011: I forgot the the name of the "prophecy" but he had thousands of followers. His group started spreading the word that the end of the world is close. "Holy fucking shit!!!! This can't be true!!". I start thinking I'm gonna go to hell for all my bad deeds. I started drinnking and singing bob marley songs in the backyard. Weird.. I "feel" that memory. Gloomy times but I feel like I learned something important. I remember filling a water bottle full of whiskey and walking in the streets at night. One night I called my mom while crying at told her that I don't want to go to hell and that I love her (lol.. calling people while drunk is funny). She tells me not to worry about it and the end of the world isn't coming soon.

I don't believe her though. I ask god for forgiveness and build up my faith. My faith is still strong.

2011 (later): It turns out that dipshit was wrong. I wake up and the world is the same. I realize I was so stupid. How could I fall for something as stupid? I start thinking seriously about my other beliefs. They all seem kind of crazy. But I don't want to think about it because it's a sin. I remember lashing out at a few skeptics here at this point in time who told me my beliefs were crazy. I hear other points from different people.. Alot of people tried to tell me the truth but I'd close my ears and yell "my faith is all I need" (metaphorically of course). I was ignoring the truth. I felt bad for questioning my faith. It was the start of the breakdown.

2011-2012: I gain alot of wisdom and views on life. I realize my beliefs are kind of crazy and I start finding it harder and harder to believe in them. I go through suicidal tendencies. Not being melodramatic. But I like for things to have a point. "what's the point of life if there is no god" I would ask myself. "there is no point.. no point in anything" blah blah depression.

2012: Not too long ago I bounce back from my depression. I feel new and good. I don't need religion any longer and thinking logically comes naturally (well in most cases). I haven't thought of my previous beliefs in conspiracies in a while. I can't believe I actually believed in that stuff.

Some of the years might be off but that's pretty much how it went down.
Lets sum this up. 1994-2011 your a happy kid with dumb friends. 2011 hits and you get convinced by some idiot that he knows when the world is gonna end. 2011-2012 you get convinced by even more idiots on the internet that your religion and god are a lie.
 

patlpp

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But that is like saying that any terminal medical patient will suddenly drop their entire belief system and begin to pray to a judeo-christian god...I assure you, this is not the case.
Why a particular denomination? I didn't say that , I said God, as in salvation, redemption. You will see the beauty of life as Gods gift to you when you are about to lose it. A moment of clarity LOL
 

Kaendar

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waaaaa!

If your beliefs are rational, you should be able to demonstrate it with logic, because that is the definition of rational. If you think that's an insult, that's your cross to bear. Belief without good rational reasons to believe is by definition irrational. Don't like it? Prove me wrong.
I have plenty of proof. Its not my fault that proof isnt good enuf for atheists.
 

Hepheastus420

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Lets sum this up. 1994-2011 your a happy kid with dumb friends. 2011 hits and you get convinced by some idiot that he knows when the world is gonna end. 2011-2012 you get convinced by even more idiots on the internet that your religion and god are a lie.
Dumb friends? Where did you get that from?

2011 hits and I start thinking. Thinking kills any irrational beliefs. You should try it some time.

Here's a much shorter summary.

1994-2006: No religion and I'm the happiest I've been in my entire life.

2006-2011: Don't question anything and at one point I believed in "doggy heaven" which isn't too much different than my other beliefs.

2011-2012: I can't believe anymore.


I like my doggy heaven thing. Try to believe that kaendar. Try to believe that when dogs die, they go to heaven. Hard right? Imagine how I feel.
 

Kaendar

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Why a particular denomination? I didn't say that , I said God, as in salvation, redemption. You will see the beauty of life.
Exactly. When people are about to die, majority of them snap back into realizing that life is too precious for a god not to exist. Our minds, thoughts, emotions, love, passion, is of too much value to just stop existing when death comes. Another thing is that alot of atheists start worrying about the destination of their previously non existent soul when they are about to die.
 

Kaendar

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Dumb friends? Where did you get that from?

2011 hits and I start thinking. Thinking kills any irrational beliefs. You should try it some time.
Your atheist friends. Thinking is what proves to me that god has to be real. The universe is too complex to have happened by chance. I am proof that god exists. The earths perfect size and distance from the sun is proof. The way that our cells and DNA work is proof. Having a child... that to me is more proof than I need. The love and innocence that a child brings into your life... its more than words can explain.
 

Hepheastus420

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Your atheist friends. Thinking is what proves to me that god has to be real. The universe is too complex to have happened by chance. I am proof that god exists. The earths perfect size and distance from the sun is proof. The way that our cells and DNA work is proof. Having a child... that to me is more proof than I need. The love and innocence that a child brings into your life... its more than words can explain.
How are they dumb though? did you read my edit?
 

mindphuk

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I have plenty of proof. Its not my fault that proof isnt good enuf for atheists.
Let me explain once more. I understand you believe and you think the proof you have is sufficient. However, if you want to convince another person that your belief has merit, you MUST present good REASONS for this belief, otherwise, people will continue to reject your claim as unreasonable. I have a dragon in my garage. It is an invisible dragon and breathes heatless fire. You can't see him but I know he's there and that proof is good enough for me. If someone called that an irrational belief, they would be right in spite of the fact that I know my dragon is real. What you think is true has absolutely no bearing on whether it appears as an irrational belief to other people or not. As I said, rational beliefs can be backed up with rational reasons. Claiming proof that is not good enough to withstand a court proceeding certainly isn't going to sway many people.
 

Metasynth

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Why a particular denomination? I didn't say that , I said God, as in salvation, redemption. You will see the beauty of life as Gods gift to you when you are about to lose it. A moment of clarity LOL
Not fair to call that a "god" then, if you suddenly see the greater meaning of things before you are about to pass. To many, that might be interpeted as "god", but to many others, it's just realizing the preciousness of life.
 

Chief Walkin Eagle

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The last paragraph is a joke. He acts like its his moral duty to spend countless hours trying to convince believers that their beliefs are irrational and that they shouldnt believe in them. Cant believe this blow hard is a spirituality mod.
 

mindphuk

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Exactly. When people are about to die, majority of them snap back into realizing that life is too precious for a god not to exist. Our minds, thoughts, emotions, love, passion, is of too much value to just stop existing when death comes. Another thing is that alot of atheists start worrying about the destination of their previously non existent soul when they are about to die.
It looks like you missed it the first time. You can send me a wire transfer or paypal.
 
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