Where are dispensaries going to get their meds from???

Bird Gymnastics

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And to everyone who may be reading i dont know everything and dont want to come across like i do. If what you said bird gym. was coming from a 50 yr old with years of experience under his belt ida took it into consideration. But since your young, like me, we dont know it all! Im not trying to make enemies and im sorry for any disrespect, i work hard and am very serious about what i do. Im just starting my grow up again so i didnt have acess to elite high price genetics. I too fall into the hype of name brand weed sometimes but you have to pull yourself back once in a while and remember that weed was created by mother nature and its our job as growers to recreate mother nature to create top shelf marijuana. top shelf is propery grown,dried,and cured. it isnt top shelf cuz of the name! I know youve been smoking long enough to know that someone can say they have some whitefire og and its the shit... till you smoke it! I know that all my strains have very high thc and when grown properly will be top shelf. Where do you think whitefire og or calio came from? just a mix of cannabis genetics!thats it!and thats all it can be!
I never meant disrespect either and I'm sorry you took offense to the truth. Calio and whitefire are just a few to name and I'm not saying its the name that makes it top shelf, it is merely genetics. Like I said before, you are right in the aspect of properly grown, dried, and cured bud is top shelf, but if you put my whitefire in your grow next to any of your strains, you will see what I mean with ELITE or top shelf. I've grown vanilla and even exodus cheese but I promise you bro they don't compare. I'm just trying to educate not hate. I don't want you to be disappointed at the end especially when someone fed you the bs in thinking those are top shelf. Enough of that Though, as we are all adults (I hope :D) but once you are done I'd love to see what you have. I've even grown with iguana juice so if you ever have any questions I'm always here to help.

Mark my words bird gymnastics, Youll be seeing me around the az mmj industry im gonna blow it up! Like i said im just starting and if i had my card as long as you id have a warehouse! Believe that! Where im from we dont use backpacks to haul, we use forklifts! I will talk to you soon when im on your level... lol!
I don't doubt that at all man. Hungry people gotta eat, right? :) I don't have a warehouse...that'd be silly lol all I am is a grower like you. The only difference from most is I had "potential" ...so was taken under the wing of some ridiculous growers. Been trimmin since 2002 ;)
 

t2kallday

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Naw man whats breeding?! lol do you know how to graft a 10 strain mother plant? can you make feminized seeds? You are a liar as far as the youtube vid goes thats your flower room and you said it!Breeding rooms need to be completely sealed unless you want all your growing plants within a mile radius to have seeds! 90 in ur veg tent?You still need to hook up your fan!??? dont ever put plants in a room that isnt setup and temp tested! I have a 1000 watt in a tent and my temps stay 77 or lower! That wasnt your breeding room bro! whyd you delete all the comments on youtube? Im done wasting my time with you bro, im ont this site to bring positive energy and help people not hate on their genetics! I know that what you put into your plants is what you get out regardless the strain name! happy growing bird gymnastics my product will prove itself regardless of what you or anyone says! Peace
 

t2kallday

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Cant we all just get along! and id love for you to bring some whitefire and calio and put them next to my plants but you gotta donate them afterwards! lol
 

Bird Gymnastics

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Naw man whats breeding?! lol do you know how to graft a 10 strain mother plant? can you make feminized seeds? You are a liar as far as the youtube vid goes thats your flower room and you said it!Breeding rooms need to be completely sealed unless you want all your growing plants within a mile radius to have seeds! 90 in ur veg tent?You still need to hook up your fan!??? dont ever put plants in a room that isnt setup and temp tested! I have a 1000 watt in a tent and my temps stay 77 or lower! That wasnt your breeding room bro! whyd you delete all the comments on youtube? Im done wasting my time with you bro, im ont this site to bring positive energy and help people not hate on their genetics! I know that what you put into your plants is what you get out regardless the strain name! happy growing bird gymnastics my product will prove itself regardless of what you or anyone says! Peace
Ha ha that video is almost a year old. Coming back to Arizona I wasn't sure how I was setting up things. Was originally going to use that as a flower room but decided to make that a breeding room. The tent was in there because those are the plants that were going to be bred. You are right, it wasn't my breeding room, IT IS MY BREEDING ROOM. I can actually do both of those things you ask. But I hate using synthetics in anything in my facility. I don't use colloidal silver I actually breed naturally. Males and females are part of nature so why screw with it. I never deleted any comments n youtube. Now that you mention it i need to update. As I said before im not hating, just trying to educate the uneducated. I love that you grow "product" because I grow medicine ;)


Fyi, if you are using forklifts to transfer meds...it obviously isn't top shelf.
 

t2kallday

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Ha ha that video is almost a year old. Coming back to Arizona I wasn't sure how I was setting up things. Was originally going to use that as a flower room but decided to make that a breeding room. The tent was in there because those are the plants that were going to be bred. You are right, it wasn't my breeding room, IT IS MY BREEDING ROOM. I can actually do both of those things you ask. But I hate using synthetics in anything in my facility. I don't use colloidal silver I actually breed naturally. Males and females are part of nature so why screw with it. I never deleted any comments n youtube. Now that you mention it i need to update. As I said before im not hating, just trying to educate the uneducated. I love that you grow "product" because I grow medicine ;)


Fyi, if you are using forklifts to transfer meds...it obviously isn't top shelf.
Look man just do what you do and dont bring negative energy to my thread! I know what im capable of! Just dont act like you know whats up? Man i grew "product" for years in miami and now im blessed enough to grow "medicine". Im sorry i got upset but damn dont come at me like that when you have know idea about my all around talent in this field. Your grow looks decent man not extraordinary or anything. This tent is my startup,and will have extraordinary yields and quality,and thru donation i will expand, youll see! Back in the day there was no such thing as top shelf, just bomb, dro,or cronic is what we called it and it went for 3 5 a pound all day. I had huge rooms with thousands of watts of light,co2 at 1500ppm,chillers,sealed rooms man! the right way! Bro when youve grown fifty thousand dollar harvests every two months then hit me up... ait grasshopper! Now i grow for the right reason but then i was hungry and had to eat as you put it. Im in it to help patients who need quality medicine and cant provide it for themselves!
 

Bird Gymnastics

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Look man just do what you do and dont bring negative energy to my thread! I know what im capable of! Just dont act like you know whats up? Man i grew "product" for years in miami and now im blessed enough to grow "medicine". Im sorry i got upset but damn dont come at me like that when you have know idea about my all around talent in this field. Your grow looks decent man not extraordinary or anything. This tent is my startup,and will have extraordinary yields and quality,and thru donation i will expand, youll see! Back in the day there was no such thing as top shelf, just bomb, dro,or cronic is what we called it and it went for 3 5 a pound all day. I had huge rooms with thousands of watts of light,co2 at 1500ppm,chillers,sealed rooms man! the right way! Bro when youve grown fifty thousand dollar harvests every two months then hit me up... ait grasshopper! Now i grow for the right reason but then i was hungry and had to eat as you put it. Im in it to help patients who need quality medicine and cant provide it for themselves!
Ha ha 50k harvest every two weeks is more like it. Seriously man I could careless now. Go grow your average buds I'll leave you alone
 

boneheadbob

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I grow for myself (and not for very long) but I am learning about "elite" genetics.
How are these?
Currently growing
Eskobars Chocolate Rain and Cheeseberry Haze
Dr Gt Bubba OG
Bodhis Goji OG
Hazemans White Grapes

Next up
Subcools Chernobyl & AOS
Something from Gage Green and some more Bodhi
Sannies Anesthisia? and maybe Killing Fields


What are some good suggestions?
Constructive critisizm? is always welcome

Outlaw is suppose to start putting out gear again but I wont deal with THCfarmer
 

t2kallday

Active Member
Ha ha 50k harvest every two weeks is more like it. Seriously man I could careless now. Go grow your average buds I'll leave you alone
You said you Been trimming since 2002! lmfao!!! Man i been growing before 2002 bro, i only trimmed my first grow, then i paid others to do so!I was too busy making tinctures, and extraction and all that. Man you are a funny guy thats for sure! Keep reading man you got alot to learn! As well do I! But for sho tho hit me up sometime you remind me of when i first started, two minds are better than one, im trying to expand,im not trying to make enemies, so lets just chill and see what happens in a couple of months
 

Lucius Vorenus

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I grow for myself (and not for very long) but I am learning about "elite" genetics.
How are these?
Currently growing
Eskobars Chocolate Rain and Cheeseberry Haze
Dr Gt Bubba OG
Bodhis Goji OG
Hazemans White Grapes

Next up
Subcools Chernobyl & AOS
Something from Gage Green and some more Bodhi
Sannies Anesthisia? and maybe Killing Fields


What are some good suggestions?
Constructive critisizm? is always welcome

Outlaw is suppose to start putting out gear again but I wont deal with THCfarmer
Never heard of any of those. I only grow a few strains but those sounds great.
 

ru4r34l

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Just reading through and a few statements that seemd to jump right out.

People who can grow will be the distributors to these dispensaries. Most people find my meds " top shelf" when I consider them OK...and even then I'm skeptical I don't have what it takes. Dispensaries truly want the best, so if your stuff doesn't make people's head turn when burned or even stink when opened you will have a hard time "distributing" your meds to dispensaries. We will see what happens here in a few weeks :)
Dispensaries have there place in the industry but just because it is top shelf in the dispensaries does'nt mean much in regards to actual medicine, I know of five legit canadian MMJ patients (when I say legit, I am talking 3 x Cancer, MS, and Graves', and yes I believe recreational use is just as deserving as medical use) who have had top shelf from many places (US, Canada, and abroad) and actually have better management with some lesser known (not considered top shelf) strains.

Yes the growers of these strains may have a tougher time distrubing to dispensaries, but for them it's usually about getting the right EFFECTIVE medicine to the patient and not having thier bud sold for excessive amounts or sitting in a pretty jar atop a shelf.

Not to be a hater man, but you have to have "elite" genetics to have top shelf buds. From following yoUr grow I'm pretty sure you have confidential cheese, vanilla Kush and mr nice...correct me if imam wrong...lots of grows I follow so sorry if I've mixed you up. But I can tell you straight forward, none of those strains you have would ever be considered "top shelf". At least from where I come from those are at best "mids." but hell prove me wrong ;)
When you are done flowering I will personally meet up with you and show you the difference. Those are OK genetics. I'm glad you like my YouTube video of my breeding room :) you are right in the aspect of a good grower can grow better then a shitty one, duh?! But regardless of what you wanna say, seeds you can buy online are not "elite" genetics. Yes they are good and some people might consider those "elite" but if you do, then you obviously don't know the definition of true dank. If you went to California or Colorado (I use these as examples because they have had an established MMJ program) they would laugh at you trying to sell those buds for top dollar. I am just a realist man and know how this industry is. You aren't going to get far thinking the way you do. Don't get me wrong, those strains are GOOD but not ELITE. If you want people to be amazed, don't buy seeds off attitude. Ha ha and if the strains I had ever entered a High Times cup, they would win for sure. It's just the growers of these "elite" genetics could careless about the publicity and politic showdown for the cup. All they care about is DANK not about winning awards. So little grasshopper...once you produce your average nugs, don't back out without meeting me or make an excuse.
Oh my bad, so you got your clones from people who bought seeds on the Internet ha ha. Try getting a "clone" only strain and then I will give you the benefit of the doubt. Plus experienced growers don't use a screen to keep their canopy even...us real growers can keep it even without having an outline :) I'm really looking forward to you failing
Who you know does not determine how you can grow, last time I looked clone only strange was akin to the good ol' boys club and if you have an in you can get some clones, again not a true mesaure of horticulture (pertaining to MMJ) accumen!

That wasn't directed at you ha ha that was for the other guy lol I know you have bomb Lucius :)

All I'm trying to get across to this guy is that what he considers "top shelf" isn't top shelf. Yes confidential cheese, vanilla Kush and mr nice can be nice strains, but if I was going to a club to buy "top shelf" meds (60th an 8th or more) those strains wouldn't even cross my mind lol I'd love to see any of those strains compete with my calio, or whitefire OG. :)
Not to cause comotion but the strains found on your grow journals can all be purchased online, if they can be bought online a seed broker has the ability to resell these (ala Attitude). Now I don't know if they are the same genetics as your plants but a quck search was able to net me suppliers of your elite strains.

To finish, I grow NON-ELITE strains from attitude and other seed brokers, and have always purchased seeds online (not for souveneir purposes), mind you I would like to try the WhiteFire OG it sounds YUMMY!!

regards,
 

BeaverHuntr

Well-Known Member
I grow for myself (and not for very long) but I am learning about "elite" genetics.
How are these?
Currently growing
Eskobars Chocolate Rain and Cheeseberry Haze
Dr Gt Bubba OG
Bodhis Goji OG
Hazemans White Grapes

Next up
Subcools Chernobyl & AOS
Something from Gage Green and some more Bodhi
Sannies Anesthisia? and maybe Killing Fields


What are some good suggestions?
Constructive critisizm? is always welcome

Outlaw is suppose to start putting out gear again but I wont deal with THCfarmer
I have heard of a lot of these strains and they are good quality genetics, subcools always popular and the Bohdi OG sounds interesting.
 

BeaverHuntr

Well-Known Member
Look man just do what you do and dont bring negative energy to my thread! I know what im capable of! Just dont act like you know whats up? Man i grew "product" for years in miami and now im blessed enough to grow "medicine". Im sorry i got upset but damn dont come at me like that when you have know idea about my all around talent in this field. Your grow looks decent man not extraordinary or anything. This tent is my startup,and will have extraordinary yields and quality,and thru donation i will expand, youll see! Back in the day there was no such thing as top shelf, just bomb, dro,or cronic is what we called it and it went for 3 5 a pound all day. I had huge rooms with thousands of watts of light,co2 at 1500ppm,chillers,sealed rooms man! the right way! Bro when youve grown fifty thousand dollar harvests every two months then hit me up... ait grasshopper! Now i grow for the right reason but then i was hungry and had to eat as you put it. Im in it to help patients who need quality medicine and cant provide it for themselves!
I grow in a sealed room so what? Talk is cheap my dude.
 

t2kallday

Active Member
I grow in a sealed room so what? Talk is cheap my dude.
hey bro this wasnt meant for you but if you wanna jump in its cool.If you gotta a sealed room then good for you, at least you know a little something. Talk IS cheap my dude! I got pics and many more to come!Even tho i started it, Im done with this thread!
 

BeaverHuntr

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hey bro this wasnt meant for you but if you wanna jump in its cool.If you gotta a sealed room then good for you, at least you know a little something. Talk IS cheap my dude! I got pics and many more to come!Even tho i started it, Im done with this thread!
Just saying dude I have sampled some of Bird's meds and even grew some of his strains 20 bucks says if you ever met the dude you would pick his brain and probably become grow buddies with him, you aint done with this thread you will keep coming back for more guys like you always do.
 

Kervork

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They're going to grow it themselves and charge you $450 an ounce.

Then half of them are going to get raided and it will take you 6 months to get the Authorized to Cultivate endorsement back on your card.
In the meantime you'll be buying mouldy smashed buds from Juan Valdez and scraping the black tar out of your bong just to make the
pain go away.
 

Wolfhound

Active Member
t2kallday LOL! Thanks for posting such funny chit. Been growing since 12 or so eh ? One of the elite for sure . . .
 

Bird Gymnastics

New Member
Just reading through and a few statements that seemd to jump right out.


Dispensaries have there place in the industry but just because it is top shelf in the dispensaries does'nt mean much in regards to actual medicine, I know of five legit canadian MMJ patients (when I say legit, I am talking 3 x Cancer, MS, and Graves', and yes I believe recreational use is just as deserving as medical use) who have had top shelf from many places (US, Canada, and abroad) and actually have better management with some lesser known (not considered top shelf) strains.

Yes the growers of these strains may have a tougher time distrubing to dispensaries, but for them it's usually about getting the right EFFECTIVE medicine to the patient and not having thier bud sold for excessive amounts or sitting in a pretty jar atop a shelf.





Who you know does not determine how you can grow, last time I looked clone only strange was akin to the good ol' boys club and if you have an in you can get some clones, again not a true mesaure of horticulture (pertaining to MMJ) accumen!


Not to cause comotion but the strains found on your grow journals can all be purchased online, if they can be bought online a seed broker has the ability to resell these (ala Attitude). Now I don't know if they are the same genetics as your plants but a quck search was able to net me suppliers of your elite strains.

To finish, I grow NON-ELITE strains from attitude and other seed brokers, and have always purchased seeds online (not for souveneir purposes), mind you I would like to try the WhiteFire OG it sounds YUMMY!!

regards,
I appreciate the comments. And as I respect your opinion I feel there is some truth to what you say but you are wrong in understanding what I mean when I say top shelf. Top shelf, to me, is the best grown, dried and best medicinal quality plant possible. I grow vegan organic and make sure that my plants are free of any carcinogens and now free of any allergens, making it some of the safest medicine around. I have three veterans that I deal with on a one on one basis. One has cancer, one has ms and one has serious PTSD and is also a parapalegic. IMO its all about the patients.

Dispensaries either are all about the patients or are there to make a quick buck. The ones based around their patients usually have the best medicine around, but those dispensaries are usually the highest priced. One patient might need an old school strain like white rhino, while another needs a strain like harlequin (highest CBD strain to date). Either of them will be grown to their full potential because they have to be. Causing them to be "top shelf" strains. I never meant top shelf as in names like kosher Kush or OG Kush, I meant by the way it's grown, taken care of and ultimately time spent. But the flaw in all of this are the dispensaries that are about the patients, do not buy their seeds online. They have grand master growers that have been doing it along time and have created most of these strains, resulting in them having the highest quality genetics around. Causing them to always have top shelf strains no matter if it's 20% THC or 4% THC. These strains are special and that is why they are so hard to come by. You have to be skilled to grow and create most of these strains. Seed companies that you buy from online are all about marketing and faking some of the best genetics around. Don't get me wrong, those genetics can be great but they aren't the original. Everyone has their opinion but from what I have seen, if it's "clone only" that usually means its the "original" and nothing beats the original. They can be mimicked and sometimes replicated very well but in the end, it all comes to genetics.

That being said, anything you buy online can be fantastic, but if you are going to a medicinal dispensary, they will laugh at those genetics you buy online. But if you go to a dispensary about profit, they will say its some bomb and probably make a deal. All in all, it's all situational circumstance. Everyone has their different opinion but that is mine about top shelf.

Now back to the strains I was growing. Those strains were requested by my patients. As most, they bought into the hype of these strains and being their caregiver I filled their wants by growing them out. Some of them were good and I grew a few more times but every time my patients still resulted back to the "original" genetics. To strains like las Vegas lemon skunk, fire OG, WMS wonder, and calio. what I do is not all on the Internet as I like some privacy but those are my answers to your comments.

P.s. please give me the brokers that sell my elite strains...as I'd love to buy more so i could cross some strains. Also if you are prop 203 compliant, I have no problem donating some goods :)
 

ru4r34l

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@Bird Gymnastics

Your absouloutely right I did have a different view on your term "Top Shelf", and "Elite Genetics/Strains", and I thank you for the intelligent rebuttal and taking the time to educate me on your stance.

Your probably right that walking into a medicinal disp with some of my genetics would cause some laughing, which is still shrill to me becuase it's not the name, look, smell, producer/grower, or taste that matters to REAL medicinal users; it's the medicinal benifits period!

Now with that said, I am a legal Canadian Grower, and I grow for patients and recreation, I judge my personal smoke on all the crap I posted above and have had some strains knock me the F^c$ out and my patients are like HO HUM..

I will see if I can find those seeds brokers for you, and for me; because some of those strains you listed sound DOPE! (pun). I did not really save any of the info but will do some searching, and kudos to you for growing out some patient requests.

Unfortunately I am not in Arizona or I would take you up on some donations, and like you I also like some privacy and only list my personal grows in my signature, as even legal growers have to tip toe the line here in the North!, cheers!

regards,
 
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