Where are dispensaries going to get their meds from???

Bird Gymnastics

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since when isnt mr nice,vanilla kush, or confidential cheese a top shelf strain? Vanilla kush took 2nd place HIGHTIMES cannabis cup 2009. mr nice is g 13 x hashplant, confidential cheese is LA confidential x exodous cheese, which are all top shelf my friend. Plus, anyone that knows anything about the real cannabis plant, (not the names its goes by) lol, knows that any john doe with a 10 pack of cali connect tahoe seeds can put them to waste by overferting them, and using cfls! Its the real horticulturalist who will always have top shelf buds!The one who will put forth the extra effort to make it right! keep my grow posted and subbed, bird gymnastics???! I saw your youtube vid bro, and your whole setup needs alot of work! I just got my card and dont have the funds yet, but once I do yall better stay tuned, cuz this aint my first rodeo. I used to grow like you when i first started, but its cool just keep reading bro, then read some more is all i can say.Looks like you kind of know how to feed them, but you gotta Work on your efficiency man, your wasting resources! No name genetics has the capability of producing good bud if you grow it right! Dont get me wrong good genetics is good genetics, and if grown properly will show its "elite" potential. cannabis is and always will be cannabis! Its up to the parent(grower in this case) to help his children reach full potential! Thats where i come in, my ladies call me daddy, and show me lots of love! lol. It aint no supersour lemon jack berry swiss cheese delight or super duper squeezed honeydrop kush! or any of the bullshit hype and marketing! im only in my 20ies and i know that! lmao! not hatin bro,and no disrespect meant, but you should do a little research,the only way to get top shelf buds is by using your brains and back and doin shit the right way. Come correct or dont come at all!
When you are done flowering I will personally meet up with you and show you the difference. Those are OK genetics. I'm glad you like my YouTube video of my breeding room :) you are right in the aspect of a good grower can grow better then a shitty one, duh?! But regardless of what you wanna say, seeds you can buy online are not "elite" genetics. Yes they are good and some people might consider those "elite" but if you do, then you obviously don't know the definition of true dank. If you went to California or Colorado (I use these as examples because they have had an established MMJ program) they would laugh at you trying to sell those buds for top dollar. I am just a realist man and know how this industry is. You aren't going to get far thinking the way you do. Don't get me wrong, those strains are GOOD but not ELITE. If you want people to be amazed, don't buy seeds off attitude. Ha ha and if the strains I had ever entered a High Times cup, they would win for sure. It's just the growers of these "elite" genetics could careless about the publicity and politic showdown for the cup. All they care about is DANK not about winning awards. So little grasshopper...once you produce your average nugs, don't back out without meeting me or make an excuse.
 

t2kallday

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God dam your fucking funny! lol all the hype and names dont mean shit!!!!Honestly bro I cant wait to meet you and smoke some of my dank with you! Just because you cant grow no top shelf dont hate bro. Weed is Weed and when grown properly is top shelf. I dont buy seeds man! especially from the internet or attitude! I get clones from reputable peeps with PROVEN top shelf nugs. Im gonna grow some bagseed to smoke with you and well see if you can even tell the difference lol! bro, just do you, and dont post hatin on my genetics. And btw this aint fucking california! im so tired of cali fools thinking they are the fucking weed gods of the world! Wtf man i been smoking and growing for years and i know what dank is!
 

Lucius Vorenus

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My pre 98 bubba on chop day. Don't really care to try and win any awards with it but it sure is what we would call in Denver DANK AS FUCK!!!

Love to meet some other growers out here in AZ who are connoiseurs of true quality and exchange some meds!

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Bird Gymnastics

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Oh my bad, so you got your clones from people who bought seeds on the Internet ha ha. Try getting a "clone" only strain and then I will give you the benefit of the doubt. Plus experienced growers don't use a screen to keep their canopy even...us real growers can keep it even without having an outline :) I'm really looking forward to you failing
 

Lucius Vorenus

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Oh my bad, so you got your clones from people who bought seeds on the Internet ha ha. Try getting a "clone" only strain and then I will give you the benefit of the doubt. Plus experienced growers don't use a screen to keep their canopy even...us real growers can keep it even without having an outline :) I'm really looking forward to you failing
damn bro, what did i do to you??
 

Lucius Vorenus

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Looks good.. Bubba never produces those jaw dropping pics, those little nuggets burn so good though.
Thanks Beaver. yea I've tried growing this strain under 1000's and now under HO T5's with custom spectrum and it just doesn't get "jaw dropping" in size thats for sure. But gat dayum it knocks you on your ass!
 

Bird Gymnastics

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damn bro, what did i do to you??
That wasn't directed at you ha ha that was for the other guy lol I know you have bomb Lucius :)

All I'm trying to get across to this guy is that what he considers "top shelf" isn't top shelf. Yes confidential cheese, vanilla Kush and mr nice can be nice strains, but if I was going to a club to buy "top shelf" meds (60th an 8th or more) those strains wouldn't even cross my mind lol I'd love to see any of those strains compete with my calio, or whitefire OG. :)
 

Lucius Vorenus

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That wasn't directed at you ha ha that was for the other guy lol I know you have bomb Lucius :)

All I'm trying to get across to this guy is that what he considers "top shelf" isn't top shelf. Yes confidential cheese, vanilla Kush and mr nice can be nice strains, but if I was going to a club to buy "top shelf" meds (60th an 8th or more) those strains wouldn't even cross my mind lol I'd love to see any of those strains compete with my calio, or whitefire OG. :)
ahh..cool cool
 

Lucius Vorenus

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I wanna see the difference in density from a HPS compared to a t5. All my stuff is ready to smokemfriday if you ever want to trade some meds.

Golden pineapple
"orange" crush
whitefire
chocolope
catract Kush

ya know i think it's realyl strain dependant to be honest. My Pre 98 was like rocks when I harvested under T5, my God Bud, not so much. That being said I never have been one of the folks who only likes dense nugs. I don't mind a more airy bud sometimes, ounces look bigger =)
 

BeaverHuntr

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God dam your fucking funny! lol all the hype and names dont mean shit!!!!Honestly bro I cant wait to meet you and smoke some of my dank with you! Just because you cant grow no top shelf dont hate bro. Weed is Weed and when grown properly is top shelf. I dont buy seeds man! especially from the internet or attitude! I get clones from reputable peeps with PROVEN top shelf nugs. Im gonna grow some bagseed to smoke with you and well see if you can even tell the difference lol! bro, just do you, and dont post hatin on my genetics. And btw this aint fucking california! im so tired of cali fools thinking they are the fucking weed gods of the world! Wtf man i been smoking and growing for years and i know what dank is!
I know what dank is too, I'm sure you are a good grower but if you showed me your Mr. Nice meds and say a hybrid clone only strain thats rare and hard to get that you grew I would probably take the hybrid clone thats rare and hard to get.
 

BeaverHuntr

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ya know i think it's realyl strain dependant to be honest. My Pre 98 was like rocks when I harvested under T5, my God Bud, not so much. That being said I never have been one of the folks who only likes dense nugs. I don't mind a more airy bud sometimes, ounces look bigger =)
Harrable! I'd be pissed, airy buds suck balls.
 

t2kallday

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Like i said man your grow is weak and you dont know shit! i said i just got my card and my setup. The screen is just for efficiency because i want to produce as much as possible my first run,till i get the funds to setup a room. How do you grow lst? or do you just let the main top tower over the lower buds shading light? whats your yeild off your 2000 watts it better be at least 2000 grams which is like 4 pounds. No more talkin, bullshit walks so we will see in two months!
 

Bird Gymnastics

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Once your grow is done we will talk. My 2k watt room is my "breeding" facility . I don't have to grow out of a tent ;) that room is strictly used for breeding. Do you know what breeding is? My last crop in the room you are talking about yielded .63 gpw to be exact. Over 2.5 packs in a room I hardly take care of ha ha. Talk to me when you get on my level
 

Bird Gymnastics

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I know what dank is too, I'm sure you are a good grower but if you showed me your Mr. Nice meds and say a hybrid clone only strain thats rare and hard to get that you grew I would probably take the hybrid clone thats rare and hard to get.
We've had this discussion before...Mr. Nice is the mids or even lows of Cali...no way in hell would anyone that knows the "true" definition of dank would call mr nice TOP SHELF... I am seriously laughing out loud :)
 

BeaverHuntr

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Like i said man your grow is weak and you dont know shit! i said i just got my card and my setup. The screen is just for efficiency because i want to produce as much as possible my first run,till i get the funds to setup a room. How do you grow lst? or do you just let the main top tower over the lower buds shading light? whats your yeild off your 2000 watts it better be at least 2000 grams which is like 4 pounds. No more talkin, bullshit walks so we will see in two months!

I dont know about that his grow seems on point and I have sampled his meds, definitely worthy of top shelf recognition.
 

t2kallday

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And to everyone who may be reading i dont know everything and dont want to come across like i do. If what you said bird gym. was coming from a 50 yr old with years of experience under his belt ida took it into consideration. But since your young, like me, we dont know it all! Im not trying to make enemies and im sorry for any disrespect, i work hard and am very serious about what i do. Im just starting my grow up again so i didnt have acess to elite high price genetics. I too fall into the hype of name brand weed sometimes but you have to pull yourself back once in a while and remember that weed was created by mother nature and its our job as growers to recreate mother nature to create top shelf marijuana. top shelf is propery grown,dried,and cured. it isnt top shelf cuz of the name! I know youve been smoking long enough to know that someone can say they have some whitefire og and its the shit... till you smoke it! I know that all my strains have very high thc and when grown properly will be top shelf. Where do you think whitefire og or calio came from? just a mix of cannabis genetics!thats it!and thats all it can be!
 

t2kallday

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Mark my words bird gymnastics, Youll be seeing me around the az mmj industry im gonna blow it up! Like i said im just starting and if i had my card as long as you id have a warehouse! Believe that! Where im from we dont use backpacks to haul, we use forklifts! I will talk to you soon when im on your level... lol!
 
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