New Obama Campaign Slogan has strong ties to Socialism

[UncleBuck]

Agreed, people in America have a sense of self-entitlement on a general basis, which explains why unions run around extorting the living shit out of American businesses.

They need a family, they need a certain type of car, a certain type of house, in a certain area, they need to eat certain food, a certain salary to afford it all, a certain this, a certain that. Most of which they don't "need", they just want it so fucking bad they can't register irresponsibility in their petty brains.

They don't realize that it's no one's job to feed their selfishness. If they want to get fed, they only thing they ought to do is just load up the .45 and have a few hollow points for breakfast, that will solve that issue.

.45's for breakfast anyone? Get em while their hot.

yep, american exceptionalism and the american dream is living in a mud hut, eating rice and beans for every meal, and being unable to send your kid to college.

i wouldn't accept any other america.

 

[UncleBuck]

Yeah, you see the people queueing for Welfare here on Facebook on their iPhone 4's.

Heres one you'll really love...Non national EU citizen parents living here in Ireland are entitled to claim €140 ($185) a month per child, even if that child is non-resident in this country.

And that my friends is the sort of ridiculousness Obama and your Democratic Party are working towards.

If RIU is still around in 20 years, I'll be posting a delicious "I fuckin' told ya's so" thread for all the current faux-Liberals on here.

it's better that the children starve, it's the mark of a great nation.

ethiopia has tons of starving children, and i would rank them right up there at the top along with somalia.

 

[Harrekin]

it's better that the children starve, it's the mark of a great nation.

ethiopia has tons of starving children, and i would rank them right up there at the top along with somalia.

So you wouldnt mind paying (a non means tested amount) for an immigrants children who don't even live in the same fucking country as them?

Your rebuttal is typical socialist drivel and clearly the words of a non-taxpayer...

 

[Canna Sylvan]

So you wouldnt mind paying (a non means tested amount) for an immigrants children who don't even live in the same fucking country as them?

Your rebuttal is typical socialist drivel and clearly the words of a non-taxpayer...

He already pays for illegals to get free health care, but doesn't care my $30,000 a year household income of five makes it so the government tells me, "fuck you and die! Pay,for it your own damn self, you rich bastard."

 

[Harrekin]

He already pays for illegals to get free health care, but doesn't care my $30,000 a year household income of five makes it so the government tells me, "fuck you and die! Pay,for it your own damn self, you rich bastard."

Iv nothing against Government provided temporary unemployment protection, afterall if they were a taxpayer and paying in, why shouldn't they get something out of it.

My belief is that since the system is there and realistically isn't going anywhere thatdQb. N. tweaks, like getting rid of benefits for long term unemployed (aka lazies or "career dole claimers) for example is a realistic option.

It just shocks me so many Americans are advocating moving towards a system, that everyone who currently is in wants to move away from. What Democrats think is a "solution" or "goal" (ie free chedda for all) is what people in countries with socialist policies call "the problem".

People that don't work are poor, if they want to move out of it, they need to work. This is the principle that held true in most places 20 years ago...why the change towards free cheddar for all?

The people born here after 1990 havnt a fucking clue anymore cos they've been around the cheddar system all their teenage/adult lives.

I heard a "long term cheddar grabber" refer to his Unemployment Benefit as "getting paid" to someone else in a shop the other day.

Is that really what you Democrats want to promote and move towards?

Its really just time to move away from the failed left and right and meet right in the centre and then we can get shit done.

 

[Canna Sylvan]

Iv nothing against Government provided temporary unemployment protection, afterall if they were a taxpayer and paying in, why shouldn't they get something out of it.

My belief is that since the system is there and realistically isn't going anywhere thatdQb. N. tweaks, like getting rid of benefits for long term unemployed (aka lazies or "career dole claimers) for example is a realistic option.

It just shocks me so many Americans are advocating moving towards a system, that everyone who currently is in wants to move away from. What Democrats think is a "solution" or "goal" (ie free chedda for all) is what people in countries with socialist policies call "the problem".

People that don't work are poor, if they want to move out of it, they need to work. This is the principle that held true in most places 20 years ago...why the change towards free cheddar for all?

The people born here after 1990 havnt a fucking clue anymore cos they've been around the cheddar system all their teenage/adult lives.

I heard a "long term cheddar grabber" refer to his Unemployment Benefit as "getting paid" to someone else in a shop the other day.

Is that really what you Democrats want to promote and move towards?

Its really just time to move away from the failed left and right and meet right in the centre and then we can get shit done.

Why can an illegal, a criminal, make as much as my family and not pay taxes. Yet gets free medical immediately. If I didn't pay taxes, not only would I not be eligible for free health care, but in jail too. The same liberals mock me for being such an asshole for paying my own way and trying to provide for my family. But the liberals praise the illegals who are cheating our system, stealing medical care, stealing food stamps and not paying their share of taxes. I'm the bad guy and called a racist bigot.

 

[Harrekin]

Why can an illegal, a criminal, make as much as my family and not pay taxes. Yet gets free medical immediately. If I didn't pay taxes, not only would I not be eligible for free health care, but in jail too. The same liberals mock me for being such an asshole for paying my own way and trying to provide for my family. But the liberals praise the illegals who are cheating our system, stealing medical care, stealing food stamps and not paying their share of taxes. I'm the bad guy and called a racist bigot.

One word, you ready?

"Entitlement"

 

[mccumcumber]

Why can an illegal, a criminal, make as much as my family and not pay taxes. Yet gets free medical immediately. If I didn't pay taxes, not only would I not be eligible for free health care, but in jail too. The same liberals mock me for being such an asshole for paying my own way and trying to provide for my family. But the liberals praise the illegals who are cheating our system, stealing medical care, stealing food stamps and not paying their share of taxes. I'm the bad guy and called a racist bigot.

I understand being pissed off that illegals don't pay taxes and what not, but I've never heard of an illegal making anywhere near the wage of a citizen. In highschool and college I worked in restaurants during the school year, starting out as a busboy; and my illegal compadres worked just as hard, if not harder than me, and got about half my pay (I was getting minimum wage), and got screwed out of their tips (the busboys would get a percentage of tips).

I personally think that illegals ought to get paid the same amount, if not more, than your stereotypical lazy ass white boy b/c they definitely work harder AND we could have them pay for their fair share of taxes. I think the only person that would take a hit for paying them legal wage is the employer that is already conducting in illegal business anyway. I don't care if my coworker doesn't know too much English, if he busts his ass off at his job that's all that matters to me.

 

[Mr Neutron]

If the economy (and by the economy, I mean the debt, the size and scope of the federal government, real tax reform, real cuts in spending and sound money) is not dealt with, you won't have to worry about immigration, illegal or not. They're all leaving and going home.
By the way, how do illegals get away without paying taxes and if it's such a bad problem then why isn't the IRS throwing their considerable weight behind this?

 

[UncleBuck]

If the economy (and by the economy, I mean the debt, the size and scope of the federal government, real tax reform, real cuts in spending and sound money) is not dealt with, you won't have to worry about immigration, illegal or not. They're all leaving and going home.
By the way, how do illegals get away without paying taxes and if it's such a bad problem then why isn't the IRS throwing their considerable weight behind this?

because illegals do pay a ton of taxes under false SS numbers that they will never see a penny of. not to mention contributions to local economies, property taxes, sales taxes, state taxes, so on and so forth.

 

[abandonconflict]

Too many billionaires on welfare owning natural resources and means of production monopolies that they pass down hereditary. We can afford to spend trillions on wars, a single round of 5.56 costs about 40 cents. A service member's wage comes completely from taxes and most of them spend it in economies outside our borders. You guys are whining about domestic spending?

 

[InCognition]

funny how you didn't deny that you would suck off ron paul if given the chance.

and way to showcase your complete lack of historical grasp. 100 years ago, there weren't many places for ordinary workers to work that were safe places to work with a livable wage. so when you say there was a 'choice', you are basically trying to rewrite history in your favor.

And, still staying signed into this reality on that note. Yup, still with the bag of popcorn. Now that I won't deny.

You fail to realize it's not your right as human to be given a job. You choose a job, not demand one with specific circumstances. That's why we call it a choice. It's not a very difficult concept to understand.

 

[InCognition]

germany is doing horribly right now with their socialistic universal health care. it's just a nightmare.

LOL!

And UncleBuck is Germany's accountant. He knows exactly what's going on over there financially. LOL!

 

[InCognition]

yep, american exceptionalism and the american dream is living in a mud hut, eating rice and beans for every meal, and being unable to send your kid to college.

i wouldn't accept any other america.

Didn't I tell you earlier that you take things out of context? I see you're at it again, you wouldn't think so, would you?

 

[InCognition]

it's better that the children starve, it's the mark of a great nation.

ethiopia has tons of starving children, and i would rank them right up there at the top along with somalia.

It's better that the people are extorted for their food, and forced to give it to others. That's the mark of a great nation.

America has tons of extortion, forcing the haves to give to the have nots, and I would rank American politics right up there at the top along with psyche-ward patients.

 

[InCognition]

So you wouldnt mind paying (a non means tested amount) for an immigrants children who don't even live in the same fucking country as them?

Your rebuttal is typical socialist drivel and clearly the words of a non-taxpayer...

Yup, and that's why it's funny to listen to him and his hypocrisy.

He infers some sort of blame on selfishness, but at the end of the day his socialistic views are as selfish as they possibly come, he just doesn't realize it. That's another one of the many fallacies of socialism... the belief that it's "fair".

 

[UncleBuck]

And, still staying signed into this reality on that note. Yup, still with the bag of popcorn. Now that I won't deny.

You fail to realize it's not your right as human to be given a job. You choose a job, not demand one with specific circumstances. That's why we call it a choice. It's not a very difficult concept to understand.

so let me see if i have this straight: you believe that the right of the business owner to profit trumps the right of the worker not to die in a fire or other similar workplace tragedy that was commonplace before unions existed?

 

[UncleBuck]

Didn't I tell you earlier that you take things out of context? I see you're at it again, you wouldn't think so, would you?

that's all you did, you asserted. you never explained anything about how i was taking ron paul's bill which calls homosexuality unacceptable out of context.

 

[UncleBuck]

It's better that the people are extorted for their food, and forced to give it to others. That's the mark of a great nation.

America has tons of extortion, forcing the haves to give to the have nots, and I would rank American politics right up there at the top along with psyche-ward patients.

somalia is awesome. it's libertarian paradise. the children starve, which makes them a great nation. no real chance for upward mobility.

but at least you don't have to worry about the government taxing you. that would be a nightmare.

 

[InCognition]

so let me see if i have this straight: you believe that the right of the business owner to profit trumps the right of the worker not to die in a fire or other similar workplace tragedy that was commonplace before unions existed?

Nope. The business's right, to not be denied it's right to offer a dangerous job, trumps that of an individuals right to make demands on how a business operates. With that said, if you think an individual has the right to deny a business it's right, you got a screw loose.

If the worker signed up for a job they knew was dangerous, they made the risk. I wonder what you think of 401k's? Same thing... you make the investment, you take the risk. It's not the company's or bank's job to ensure you anything if you willingly signed up for a risk. Self entitlement is not an investment.

Hidden dangers are a different topic, but I've already stated that.