trayvan martin

domino7

domino7

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afrawfraw said:
I'm assuming by your statements you've never sat on a jury. Sorry, dude, but they are all human. And most have a 12th grade education level, if that. Just knowing he has a propensity for violence, and he has an arrest record, will sit in the jurors minds. I get it, your delusional, and have full faith in our judicial system. Mystery solved, SCOOBY DOO! In REALITY, baby killers and wife killers walk every day. What doesn't change is human behavior. Read a book, take a psychology class, and stop barking at me.

I wonder if those arresting officers can be character witnesses even though the charges were dropped...HMMMMM...



"Merits of Christianity"...OK, NOW I'M LAUGHING!
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If you are an example of an educated person, I'd rather take my chances with the uneducated lol. Stop taking psychology classes, and learn to think for yourself. Until you do, you're just another one of the sheeple.
 
afrawfraw

afrawfraw

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domino7 said:
If you are an example of an educated person, I'd rather take my chances with the uneducated lol. Stop taking psychology classes, and learn to think for yourself. Until you do, you're just another one of the sheeple.
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Not sure why you attacked me. But because you did......

PLEASE TELL EVERYONE, OH EDUCATED ONE, WHO THE TERM "SHEEPLE" REFERENCES!!!

Thank you and good night.
 
afrawfraw

afrawfraw

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cliffey501 said:
He wasn't a trained bouncer dumb dumb.Hence the reason he worked underground security at illegal house parties.And under your own admission you used force to remove disorderly patrons including woman Im sure,unless the limelight is a gay bar.
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http://twitter.com/#!/Real_Geo_Zimmer/status/191866481414377472

EL STUPIDO!

Just LEO Training. Nothing near the amount of self defense training BOUNCERS get.

EL STUPIDO!

In 3 years I NEVER hurt any one.

EL STUPIDO! Strikes again!
 
afrawfraw

afrawfraw

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cliffey501

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afrawfraw said:
Why call me Dumb Dumb when your making no sense.

http://www.scribd.com/heidi_vries/d/87064208-George-Zimmerman’s-application-for-the-Citizens-Police-Academy-in-2008

El Stupido strikes AGAIN! That post was 5 days ago, Zimmy ADMITTING he has LEO training. Attached is his Application from 2008!

2005!? WTF are you talking about!?
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When he supposedly freaked out on that girl.Happened in 2005.Zimmy was in school to be a leo when trayvon was shot meaning he just recieved training.He was not trained back in 2005.
 
afrawfraw

afrawfraw

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cliffey501 said:
When he supposedly freaked out on that girl.Happened in 2005.Zimmy was in school to be a leo when trayvon was shot meaning he just recieved training.He was not trained back in 2005.
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Oh, let's have some fun. So in 2005 he was fired for completely losing it. Your reasoning is lack of training. He is approved in 2008 and begins LEO training. FOUR YEARS LATER, he disregards protocals, disregards a direct order not to engage, disregards orders to remain in his vehicle, and pursues TM further.

Now either 1) He was in control of his anger, due to Anger Management classes, and LEO training, and started the scuffle on purpose.

Or 2) He learned nothing from LEO training and AM Classes and lost his cool and started a fight.

YOU PICK!
 
doc111

doc111

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afrawfraw said:
WUH!? Partying and lying equals murder!? Did CA have a history of child abuse towards children? Did she have a first child that died suspiciously? No. And she WAS convicted, just not on all charges, which I helped you explain in another post...Sheesh.

And I'm sorry you go clubing in Kabul! I would be appalled if I saw a bouncer " Pick up and throw" a woman to the ground. I bounced for 3 years at a little place called "The Lime Light". I never picked up and threw anyone, and I'm 6 feet, 300 lbs. I used restraints and pressure points, like any trained bouncer does. A college student with a "Security" shirt is not a bouncer! Why would a "Bouncer"'s boss describe him as "Losing" it and "Out of control" if it was business as usual? I see your Fail rifle! KA-KA-KA-KA-KA-FAIL!
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What are you talking about? Where do I say "partying and lying = murder"?:? The point I was trying to make (which you've obviously missed) was that the prosecution had a shitload of "theories" and "evidence" against Casey Anthony, INCLUDING, damning testimony from her own father. She was not convicted of the main charges against her. She was found guilty on something like 4 counts of providing false information to police. She walked out of jail eleven days after the trial concluded and was basically given time served for the 4 counts. So, yes, you are correct....she was convicted of 4 of the most minor charges against her. Since she wasn't convicted on ANY of the main charges against her though, it's widely considered that she was "acquitted".;-)


Now that we have that out of the way, the point I was trying to make is that a lot of people seem to think the prosecution has a "slam dunk" case against Zimmerman. I think they have an uphill battle due to lack of evidence and the fact that he MIGHT have acted totally within his right under Florida law. That's all I'm saying. Everyone fucking HATED Casey Anthony and there was still a jury out there who thought the prosecution's case against her was weak, which I said all along. Never said she didn't do it (I have no way to know this, I wasn't there), simply that there was little hard evidence against her. People thought I was defending her or saying she didn't do it. I never said any of that, but for some reason all the people who I debated that thought the prosecution was going to nail her also thought that I was defending her. :oThere is a big difference. I hope people can put aside their own prejudices and see that. Get ready to be really angry, because I think Zimmerman will walk. I could definitely be wrong, but we shall see.:blsmoke:
 
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cliffey501

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afrawfraw said:
Oh, let's have some fun. So in 2005 he was fired for completely losing it. Your reasoning is lack of training. He is approved in 2008 and begins LEO training. FOUR YEARS LATER, he disregards protocals, disregards a direct order not to engage, disregards orders to remain in his vehicle, and pursues TM further.

Now either 1) He was in control of his anger, due to Anger Management classes, and LEO training, and started the scuffle on purpose.

Or 2) He learned nothing from LEO training and AM Classes and lost his cool and started a fight.

YOU PICK!
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You assume he started the fight.
 
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cliffey501

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I found this pretty funny.From georgie's twitter

I will not be silenced. Or intimidated. I'm tired of just taking abuse and not fighting back. I may go down, but I will go down fighting.

Next tweet:

Also: I am armed. Just saying.

LOL
 
afrawfraw

afrawfraw

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doc111 said:
What are you talking about? Where do I say "partying and lying = murder"?:? The point I was trying to make (which you've obviously missed) was that the prosecution had a shitload of "theories" and "evidence" against Casey Anthony, INCLUDING, damning testimony from her own father. She was not convicted of the main charges against her. She was found guilty on something like 4 counts of providing false information to police. She walked out of jail eleven days after the trial concluded and was basically given time served for the 4 counts. So, yes, you are correct....she was convicted of 4 of the most minor charges against her. Since she wasn't convicted on ANY of the main charges against her though, it's widely considered that she was "acquitted".;-)


Now that we have that out of the way, the point I was trying to make is that a lot of people seem to think the prosecution has a "slam dunk" case against Zimmerman. I think they have an uphill battle due to lack of evidence and the fact that he MIGHT have acted totally within his right under Florida law. That's all I'm saying. Everyone fucking HATED Casey Anthony and there was still a jury out there who thought the prosecution's case against her was weak, which I said all along. Never said she didn't do it (I have no way to know this, I wasn't there), simply that there was little hard evidence against her. People thought I was defending her or saying she didn't do it. I never said any of that, but for some reason all the people who I debated that thought the prosecution was going to nail her also thought that I was defending her. :oThere is a big difference. I hope people can put aside their own prejudices and see that. Get ready to be really angry, because I think Zimmerman will walk. I could definitely be wrong, but we shall see.:blsmoke:
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So you're saying that her track record was to lie and she was convicted of lying. Wasn't that MY point?
 
afrawfraw

afrawfraw

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cliffey501 said:
You assume he started the fight.
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Uhhh, he did.

Have you listened to the 911 call!?

Stay. "no"
Stay. "no"
STAY! "It's cold" (Exiting vehicle)
STAY! "BANG"

Or did Treyvon Martin punch Zimmy through the glass? And then unbroke the glass? Zimmerman had NO BUSINESS persuing TM once the police ORDERED him to stop!
 
MuyLocoNC

MuyLocoNC

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afrawfraw said:
Oh, let's have some fun. So in 2005 he was fired for completely losing it. Your reasoning is lack of training. He is approved in 2008 and begins LEO training. FOUR YEARS LATER, he disregards protocals, disregards a direct order not to engage, disregards orders to remain in his vehicle, and pursues TM further.

Now either 1) He was in control of his anger, due to Anger Management classes, and LEO training, and started the scuffle on purpose.

Or 2) He learned nothing from LEO training and AM Classes and lost his cool and started a fight.

YOU PICK!
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He was never ordered not to engage.
He was never ordered to remain in his vehicle.

Let's have some fun, since you continue to make statements that are untrue, you're either a pathological liar OR a complete idiot.

YOU PICK!
 
kelly4

kelly4

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afrawfraw said:
Uhhh, he did.

Have you listened to the 911 call!?

Stay. "no"
Stay. "no"
STAY! "It's cold" (Exiting vehicle)
STAY! "BANG"

Or did Treyvon Martin punch Zimmy through the glass? And then unbroke the glass? Zimmerman had NO BUSINESS persuing TM once the police ORDERED him to stop!
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When did the police ORDER him to stop?
 
doc111

doc111

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afrawfraw said:
So you're saying that her track record was to lie and she was convicted of lying. Wasn't that MY point?
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Noooooo.......what I'm saying is there was evidence that PROVED she was lying so she was convicted of lying! lol! Seriously people? Suddenly a track record = guilt of a crime? This is so fucking scary on so many levels bro!
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Let's play devil's advocate for a moment shall we? Let's make the hypothetical that you have been convicted or even accused of growing cannabis in the past. The police and your neighbors/friends all know this. Suddenly, a skunk crawls under your house and it starts giving off a "suspicious odor". Should the police still bother with a warrant? After all, you have a "track record" of growing. I mean, you're OBVIOUSLY guilty, right? :dunce:
 
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