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Samwell Seed Well

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why does zimmermans brother have anything to say about the events . . . . . . im reading some of what has been compiled . . .and its written like a bad novel . .. . . .. full of sinister statements and scary imagery . .. . . . . .. i just thought it was funny, and was wondering where he got his account of events . . . or who wrote this article and how credible to whats yall have found is it. the imagery reminds me of the Familey guy episode where peter gets a prostate exam and ask the judge at the doctors trial if his exam was as normal as he remembers with a cut away all black and white and creepy, with the doctor saying "relax I be a doctor" . . .. . . .. lol

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7:15 – 7:16pm, Zimmerman’s brother’s version of events: Zimmerman’s brother states that Zimmerman was not patrolling the neighborhood; rather, he was driving to Target when he noticed a suspicious looking person in his gated community, and called the police to report it. Zimmerman’s brother alleges that Zimmerman stopped following Trayvon when the police dispatcher told him to. Zimmerman then then lost sight of Trayvon, and about a minute later, the following occurs:

  • Trayvon: sneaks up on Zimmerman.
  • Zimmerman: tries to grab his phone to call 911 and intends to say to police “Well, this person who I lost sight of and was not pursuing has now confronted me.” (^^^^^^come on!)
  • Zimmerman is unable to complete this call because Trayvon broke his nose with a punch, and began slamming Zimmerman’s head into the sidewalk.
  • Trayvon: sees Zimmerman’s gun and tries to grab it.
  • Trayvon: says to Zimmerman either (1) “You die tonight,” or possibly (2) “You have a piece, you die tonight.”
  • Zimmerman: screams for help, but then grabs gun and shoots Trayvon when Trayvon tries to muscle it away.
Zimmerman’s brother adds in that there is a witness that saw what happened, “from the first blow.” The brother does not explain why this witness did not help Zimmerman, who he is, or why he was around to see the fight in the first place."
 

cliffey501

Active Member
why does zimmermans brother have anything to say about the events . . . . . . im reading some of what has been compiled . . .and its written like a bad novel . .. . . .. full of sinister statements and scary imagery . .. . . . . .. i just thought it was funny, and was wondering where he got his account of events . . . or who wrote this article and how credible to whats yall have found is it. the imagery reminds me of the Familey guy episode where peter gets a prostate exam and ask the judge at the doctors trial if his exam was as normal as he remembers with a cut away all black and white and creepy, with the doctor saying "relax I be a doctor" . . .. . . .. lol

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7:15 – 7:16pm, Zimmerman’s brother’s version of events: Zimmerman’s brother states that Zimmerman was not patrolling the neighborhood; rather, he was driving to Target when he noticed a suspicious looking person in his gated community, and called the police to report it. Zimmerman’s brother alleges that Zimmerman stopped following Trayvon when the police dispatcher told him to. Zimmerman then then lost sight of Trayvon, and about a minute later, the following occurs:

  • Trayvon: sneaks up on Zimmerman.
  • Zimmerman: tries to grab his phone to call 911 and intends to say to police “Well, this person who I lost sight of and was not pursuing has now confronted me.” (^^^^^^come on!)
  • Zimmerman is unable to complete this call because Trayvon broke his nose with a punch, and began slamming Zimmerman’s head into the sidewalk.
  • Trayvon: sees Zimmerman’s gun and tries to grab it.
  • Trayvon: says to Zimmerman either (1) “You die tonight,” or possibly (2) “You have a piece, you die tonight.”
  • Zimmerman: screams for help, but then grabs gun and shoots Trayvon when Trayvon tries to muscle it away.
Zimmerman’s brother adds in that there is a witness that saw what happened, “from the first blow.” The brother does not explain why this witness did not help Zimmerman, who he is, or why he was around to see the fight in the first place."
The witness he is probably refering to is "John".
 

MuyLocoNC

Well-Known Member
why does zimmermans brother have anything to say about the events . . . . . . im reading some of what has been compiled . . .and its written like a bad novel . .. . . .. full of sinister statements and scary imagery . .. . . . . .. i just thought it was funny, and was wondering where he got his account of events . . . or who wrote this article and how credible to whats yall have found is it. the imagery reminds me of the Familey guy episode where peter gets a prostate exam and ask the judge at the doctors trial if his exam was as normal as he remembers with a cut away all black and white and creepy, with the doctor saying "relax I be a doctor" . . .. . . .. lol

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7:15 – 7:16pm, Zimmerman’s brother’s version of events: Zimmerman’s brother states that Zimmerman was not patrolling the neighborhood; rather, he was driving to Target when he noticed a suspicious looking person in his gated community, and called the police to report it. Zimmerman’s brother alleges that Zimmerman stopped following Trayvon when the police dispatcher told him to. Zimmerman then then lost sight of Trayvon, and about a minute later, the following occurs:

  • Trayvon: sneaks up on Zimmerman.
  • Zimmerman: tries to grab his phone to call 911 and intends to say to police “Well, this person who I lost sight of and was not pursuing has now confronted me.” (^^^^^^come on!)
  • Zimmerman is unable to complete this call because Trayvon broke his nose with a punch, and began slamming Zimmerman’s head into the sidewalk.
  • Trayvon: sees Zimmerman’s gun and tries to grab it.
  • Trayvon: says to Zimmerman either (1) “You die tonight,” or possibly (2) “You have a piece, you die tonight.”
  • Zimmerman: screams for help, but then grabs gun and shoots Trayvon when Trayvon tries to muscle it away.
Zimmerman’s brother adds in that there is a witness that saw what happened, “from the first blow.” The brother does not explain why this witness did not help Zimmerman, who he is, or why he was around to see the fight in the first place."
Dude, you're quoting shit off some chick's blog. Do we even know exactly where she's getting this information? I saw ZERO references to anything. The blogger obviously has her mind made up long before she wrote this colossal waste of time, for all I know she could be piecing it together from other articles or paraphrasing. Let's not debate facts based on some crazy bitch's wild musings. When I see it as actual evidence, then I'll believe it was said, and THEN we can debate it's validity.
 

Samwell Seed Well

Well-Known Member
i asked how credible it was too? this is why we cant have nice things(discussions) you dont read . . .you just block and jab . . .. . .

and I made fun of it . . . . "and its written like a bad novel . . . .. . . "

and people wonder why threads like this get out of hand like the previous 7 pages . . . . .

i hate it when trolls fail . . wheres UB to bring all the crazies out
 

cliffey501

Active Member
i asked how credible it was too? this is why we cant have nice things(discussions) you dont read . . .you just block and jab . . .. . .

and I made fun of it . . . . "and its written like a bad novel . . . .. . . "

and people wonder why threads like this get out of hand like the previous 7 pages . . . . .

i hate it when trolls fail . . wheres UB to bring all the crazies out
Zimmerman's brothers really did say this.I think he is just being over zealous.The story remains consistent.
 

UncleBuck

Well-Known Member
Zimmerman's brothers really did say this.I think he is just being over zealous.The story remains consistent.
lol @ consistent. there are about a half a dozen zimmerversions of the story.

and muyloco, you must have skipped over the part where the author accounts for all the possibilities of the zimmerdefenders, it's just that they are wildly unlikely.
 

Samwell Seed Well

Well-Known Member
Zimmerman's brothers really did say this.I think he is just being over zealous.The story remains consistent.
so if he really said this then where did he hear it? would it be safe to assume he heard it from Zimmerman . . .. . .if so . . .it will be interesting to here what actaully comes up in the trial as the offcial story and if the brothers story are different . . .as he could only have heard it from zimmerman. . . . .the context that it paints . . .. . Martin as this criminal deviant willing to kill for kicks? very similar to the kind of assumptions that made zimmerman wary of martin in the first place . . . when in all rights from purchase of goods to death martin was on a path home . . . .. .

sounds a little over zealous to me too . . .. . which leads me to belive that Zimmerman has a "hero" mentality about having had to shoot martin . . ..idk just interesting to hear different views of what heappned of information from the same source...
 

doc111

Well-Known Member
so if he really said this then where did he hear it? would it be safe to aaume he heard it from Zimmerman . . .. . .if so . . .it will be interesting to here what actaully comes up in the trial as the offcial story and the brothers story are different . . .. . but on in the context that it paints . . .. . Martin as this criminal deviant willing to kill for kicks?

sounds a little over zealous to me too . . .. . which leads me to belive that Zimmerman has a "hero" mentality about having had to shoot martin . . ..idk just interesting to here different view sof what heappned of information from the same source...
It matters not. The brother's account would be inadmissible as hearsay.:-|
 

UncleBuck

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It matters not. The brother's account would be inadmissible as hearsay.:-|
ya still gotta wonder why there is a different accounts by:

zimmerman's dad
zimmerman's brother
zimmerman to the police
the police to martin's parents
the police to zimmerman's dad

and why all of these accounts tell the tale of a more coherent conversation than the one we hear on the 911 tapes, which is simply repeated cries for help, with the last cry for help being cut off by a gunshot.

was zimmerman crying for help as he pulled the trigger? lol @ that.

zimmerman lost it. after he shot the kid, he lunged on top of him because he thought he was still a threat. that tells me that zimmerman did not have it all there mentally at the time.
 

UncleBuck

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all the zimmerdefenders are going to look pretty stupid when deedee gets on the stand, and even more stupid when the FBI voice analysis of the 911 tapes gets listened to in a court of law.
 

cliffey501

Active Member
ya still gotta wonder why there is a different accounts by:

zimmerman's dad
zimmerman's brother
zimmerman to the police
the police to martin's parents
the police to zimmerman's dad

and why all of these accounts tell the tale of a more coherent conversation than the one we hear on the 911 tapes, which is simply repeated cries for help, with the last cry for help being cut off by a gunshot.

was zimmerman crying for help as he pulled the trigger? lol @ that.

zimmerman lost it. after he shot the kid, he lunged on top of him because he thought he was still a threat. that tells me that zimmerman did not have it all there mentally at the time.
All these accounts are the same.As zimmerman went back to his truck he was approached by martin.Martin hit him and climbed on him and bashed his head against the ground.Zimmerman shot him.
 

UncleBuck

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All these accounts are the same.As zimmerman went back to his truck he was approached by martin.Martin hit him and climbed on him and bashed his head against the ground.Zimmerman shot him.
lol, why don't you go ahead and show me just how "the same" these accounts all are by posting them and letting people judge for themselves?
 

UncleBuck

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how does one get knocked down from a sidewalk such that their back lands in the grass and their head lands on the sidewalk? can anyone explain to me the super awesome physics involved in that one?

and why does someone go to the greenbelt behind the houses to look for an address when their vehicle is parked in front of the houses where the addresses are marked? can anyone explain that to me? LOL!
 

cliffey501

Active Member
lol, why don't you go ahead and show me just how "the same" these accounts all are by posting them and letting people judge for themselves?
Quoted from the article you posted.

7:15 – 7:16pm, Zimmerman’s father’s version of events: Zimmerman is walking along the sidewalk (area circled in red?) in order to “find an address.”

  • Trayvon: walks up to Zimmerman, says, “Do you have a fucking problem?”
  • Zimmerman: “No, I don’t have a problem.” Zimmerman starts to reach for his cell phone to call police, but Trayvon punches him in the nose. Zimmerman’s nose is broken and he is knocked to the concrete.
  • Trayvon: gets on top of Zimmerman and punches him repeatedly. While punching Zimmerman on the ground below him, Trayvon sees Zimmerman’s gun.
  • Trayvon: “You’re going to die tonight.”
  • Zimmerman: draws his pistol while on the ground, and shoots Trayvon once in the chest.
7:15 – 7:16pm, Zimmerman’s brother’s version of events: Zimmerman’s brother states that Zimmerman was not patrolling the neighborhood; rather, he was driving to Target when he noticed a suspicious looking person in his gated community, and called the police to report it. Zimmerman’s brother alleges that Zimmerman stopped following Trayvon when the police dispatcher told him to. Zimmerman then then lost sight of Trayvon, and about a minute later, the following occurs:

  • Trayvon: sneaks up on Zimmerman.
  • Zimmerman: tries to grab his phone to call 911 and intends to say to police “Well, this person who I lost sight of and was not pursuing has now confronted me.” Zimmerman is unable to complete this call because Trayvon broke his nose with a punch, and began slamming Zimmerman’s head into the sidewalk.
  • Trayvon: sees Zimmerman’s gun and tries to grab it.
  • Trayvon: says to Zimmerman either (1) “You die tonight,” or possibly (2) “You have a piece, you die tonight.”
  • Zimmerman: screams for help, but then grabs gun and shoots Trayvon when Trayvon tries to muscle it away.
 

cannabineer

Ursus marijanus
There was an angry man named Zimm,
Who was filled with rage to the brim.
One day he just snapped,
And claimed he was slapped,
As reason to pull a pistol and shoot him!
Nice idea, but limericks need rhythm.
This is kind a hurried, but it boogies ... cn

A wannabe cop named George Z.
had to chase what he happened to see.
In his quest for the clue
'Spite "we don't need you to"
for his Skittles he scuttled young T!
 

doc111

Well-Known Member
ya still gotta wonder why there is a different accounts by:

zimmerman's dad
zimmerman's brother
zimmerman to the police
the police to martin's parents
the police to zimmerman's dad

and why all of these accounts tell the tale of a more coherent conversation than the one we hear on the 911 tapes, which is simply repeated cries for help, with the last cry for help being cut off by a gunshot.

was zimmerman crying for help as he pulled the trigger? lol @ that.

zimmerman lost it. after he shot the kid, he lunged on top of him because he thought he was still a threat. that tells me that zimmerman did not have it all there mentally at the time.
You ever played the telephone game? There ya go!;-)
 

UncleBuck

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Quoted from the article you posted.

7:15 – 7:16pm, Zimmerman’s father’s version of events: Zimmerman is walking along the sidewalk (area circled in red?) in order to “find an address.”

  • Trayvon: walks up to Zimmerman, says, “Do you have a fucking problem?”
  • Zimmerman: “No, I don’t have a problem.” Zimmerman starts to reach for his cell phone to call police, but Trayvon punches him in the nose. Zimmerman’s nose is broken and he is knocked to the concrete.
  • Trayvon: gets on top of Zimmerman and punches him repeatedly. While punching Zimmerman on the ground below him, Trayvon sees Zimmerman’s gun.
  • Trayvon: “You’re going to die tonight.”
  • Zimmerman: draws his pistol while on the ground, and shoots Trayvon once in the chest.
7:15 – 7:16pm, Zimmerman’s brother’s version of events: Zimmerman’s brother states that Zimmerman was not patrolling the neighborhood; rather, he was driving to Target when he noticed a suspicious looking person in his gated community, and called the police to report it. Zimmerman’s brother alleges that Zimmerman stopped following Trayvon when the police dispatcher told him to. Zimmerman then then lost sight of Trayvon, and about a minute later, the following occurs:

  • Trayvon: sneaks up on Zimmerman.
  • Zimmerman: tries to grab his phone to call 911 and intends to say to police “Well, this person who I lost sight of and was not pursuing has now confronted me.” Zimmerman is unable to complete this call because Trayvon broke his nose with a punch, and began slamming Zimmerman’s head into the sidewalk.
  • Trayvon: sees Zimmerman’s gun and tries to grab it.
  • Trayvon: says to Zimmerman either (1) “You die tonight,” or possibly (2) “You have a piece, you die tonight.”
  • Zimmerman: screams for help, but then grabs gun and shoots Trayvon when Trayvon tries to muscle it away.
nice selective quotation. why did you not post all 5 different versions?
 

UncleBuck

Well-Known Member
How 'bout we wait till Zimmerman gives his version, or, more accurately, till the police reveal their interviews?
that would be nice. according to the prosecution, zimmerman's story contradicts zimmerman's story, so i can't wait for that.

in the meantime, explain this one for me: you're looking for an address. your truck is parked near some houses with addresses listed on them. why would you go back to the greenbelt behind the houses to look for an address, when that's not where the addresses are?
 
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