Care Giver..or Drug Dealer?

st0wandgrow

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No. I am ashamed of the Country and its leaders. Accountability wise, America, IMO, is not something to be proud of. I personally think its a gross thought to be proud of America, and its history. I stated I was proud to serve the people, not the country. I think the people have had shit pulled over there eyes for so long they cant help but blindly chest pound! Its a very false sense of pride in america!
I could not agree with you more Melody! Our pillaging of other countries is nothing to be proud of.

Greed rules in America. These wars that are fought under the guise of "national defense" are a joke. It's nothing short of killing in the name of profit. We are not a democracy any longer. This country is an oligarchy run by a handful of rich powerful people that will kill and destroy anything that stands in the way of them making more and more money.

It's little wonder that the rest of the world hates us.
 

MixedMelodyMindBender

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I could not agree with you more Melody! Our pillaging of other countries is nothing to be proud of.

Greed rules in America. These wars that are fought under the guise of "national defense" are a joke. It's nothing short of killing in the name of profit. We are not a democracy any longer. This country is an oligarchy run by a handful of rich powerful people that will kill and destroy anything that stands in the way of them making more and more money.

It's little wonder that the rest of the world hates us.
Amen! If there was a like button I would be on it :)
 

abe supercro

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If American politicians had to walk a foot in reality they would be dead miles ago!---Sir John Lennon
Corruption, Altering our voter approved medical mj laws this upcoming week.
Please send us an Angel for realz Michigan gonna gets a whoopin' by Republicans. They are trying to gut the laws that keeps us free from random thug boots, I shit U not.
 

CharlieBud

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Corruption, Altering our voter approved medical mj laws this upcoming week.
Please send us an Angel for realz Michigan gonna gets a whoopin' by Republicans. They are trying to gut the laws that keeps us free from random thug boots, I shit U not.
You swallowed the blue pill. Both are poison!
 

Beagle

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Bob, those patient-caregivers that are maxed out can only possess 15oz of useable cannabis. Those that possess cannabis far exceeding that weight are already breaking the law, and if caught will probably be prohibited from using a medical defense in court.

The caregivers that grow for 5 patients, and sometimes themselves, deserve to be fairly compensated. With all the growing, maintaining, trimming, curing, butter making, cooking medibles, rso and hash making, they would seem to have a full time job in doing so. Trimming alone!
 

purklize

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I could not agree with you more Melody! Our pillaging of other countries is nothing to be proud of.

Greed rules in America. These wars that are fought under the guise of "national defense" are a joke. It's nothing short of killing in the name of profit. We are not a democracy any longer. This country is an oligarchy run by a handful of rich powerful people that will kill and destroy anything that stands in the way of them making more and more money.

It's little wonder that the rest of the world hates us.
Yeah, we live in an empire, the greatest empire the world has ever known.



Doesn't mean we're the evil ones though, we're getting exploited too. A lot of foreigners I've talked with have been more aware of this than us. When Rome fell the standard of living in the provinces rose.
 

CharlieBud

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Yeah, we live in an empire, the greatest empire the world has ever known.



Doesn't mean we're the evil ones though, we're getting exploited too. A lot of foreigners I've talked with have been more aware of this than us. When Rome fell the standard of living in the provinces rose.

The teat of the world...

 

purklize

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My position has been the same all along. The people hiding behind the medical law, are hurting both the med law, AND any hope of decriminalization.
There are far fewer "fakers" than you think. Over 30% of Michiganders suffer from chronic pain. A lot of those are young people. People of your age tend to be a lot less open minded about cannabis than yourself (unfortunately) so even though there's a lot of need in your generation, there's few who sign up. Now, conversely, with those of my generation (mid-20s) people are very open minded about cannabis, and if they have a chronic pain problem they are likely to sign up. So, we end up with a lot of young people in the program and few elderly folks.

There's a lot of young people who fit the part of a "stoner" but they also usually have very real injuries or diseases. Try talking with a few of them sometime and ask what their condition is, you'd be surprised.

As for myself, I look young and healthy (outside of being clinically underweight) but I have a plethora of health problems. I usually can't really walk around much because of nerve damage from shingles but of course I will only be seen in public on good days, or when I've been using narcotics + cannabis. I grew up in a stiff upper lip family so I don't show the pain or complain about it unless it's so bad I can't move, at which point you'll never see me because I'm bedridden. There's a lot in my position... I also thought for a while it was mostly fakers, but then when I started talking with those people, I felt bad because I was horribly wrong.

The people I think are really screwing us over are the clubs/hydro shops/certification mills who advertise with photos of women in bikinis and have names like "bongariffic."
 

purklize

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ahhhh fuck it good luck to parkinsons hope it gets your ass in the dirt ASAP.
I disagree with bob harris on many things but this is too far. He's not evil... debating others can be frustrating, but still, myself I wish him well and just hope he comes to understand our perspective, that's all...

Reminds me... it's amazing what vigorous arguments we can have despite all having buckets of mj lying around...
 

MixedMelodyMindBender

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Yeah, we live in an empire, the greatest empire the world has ever known.



Doesn't mean we're the evil ones though, we're getting exploited too. A lot of foreigners I've talked with have been more aware of this than us. When Rome fell the standard of living in the provinces rose.
We average a war every 10 years. That is the highest war rate in the world. Bare none. Compared to Canada which averages a way ever 70 years, I would say that concludes us as evil. Yes, America is an evil empire.
As a country, and with regards to its history, we have had more wars than any other country on earth. Anti-Americanism is at an all time high, I would guess its not cause we got more tv hours than the rest of the world, I would imagine its cause we are an evil empire and the world knows!

The Romans
The Greeks
The Egyptians
The Myans
The Aztecs

The list goes on and on of the nations that thought the same like you " oh were the greatest empire on earth"......where are they again?????? Extinct! America will be no different and it is utterly foolish to believe otherwise~

One FACT you must understand is that there has NEVER BEEN 1 country or empire of people that have remained dominate for to long. The greatest civilizations ever known to man are all dead and gone because of the same bullshit you see in America. When you get to the point of thinking you are the greatest empire on earth, is when things like 9/11 happen. When you think that your the great empire on earth and can occupy wherever your will takes you, you get done just like the Romans, Greeks, Egyptians, Myans, Aztec.....Fate...is a MOFO
 

purklize

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I didn't say the US would endure forever, it is collapsing. There is no doubt the US is the greatest empire to ever rule the world, no other empire has had such control over global affairs.
 

st0wandgrow

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We average a war every 10 years. That is the highest war rate in the world. Bare none. Compared to Canada which averages a way ever 70 years, I would say that concludes us as evil. Yes, America is an evil empire.
As a country, and with regards to its history, we have had more wars than any other country on earth. Anti-Americanism is at an all time high, I would guess its not cause we got more tv hours than the rest of the world, I would imagine its cause we are an evil empire and the world knows!

The Romans
The Greeks
The Myans
The Aztecs

The list goes on and on of the nations that thought the same like you " oh were the greatest empire on earth"......where are they again?????? Extinct! America will be no different and it is utterly foolish to believe otherwise~

Again, agreed.

We get fed propaganda here. The media doesn't report news. They tend to sensationalize everything.

I spent the first 20 years of my life in Canada. When you turn the news on there, you tend to get a more objective look at things .... less spin. For Americans it's very tough to step back, put yourself in someone else's shoes, and look at the world through a different perspective when all you hear is the nonsense that's drilled in to our heads here 24/7.
 

Cory and trevor

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I disagree with bob harris on many things but this is too far. He's not evil... debating others can be frustrating, but still, myself I wish him well and just hope he comes to understand our perspective, that's all...

Reminds me... it's amazing what vigorous arguments we can have despite all having buckets of mj lying around...
I'm tired of bob hiding behind his parkinsons to somke pot.
 

MixedMelodyMindBender

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I didn't say the US would endure forever, it is collapsing. There is no doubt the US is the greatest empire to ever rule the world, no other empire has had such control over global affairs.
Wrong. Modern America is very heavily influenced by the Romans. Much of our "intelligence" comes from their inventions. Bare None, the ROMANS WERE the GREATEST EMPIRE EVER! The Roman Empire ruled for 500 years...THE WORLD...America is barley over 200 years old! The Rule of Rome itself goes much longer than 500 years!

Perhaps the reason why we can't learn from history is because we forget it to soon!!!
 

purklize

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Wrong. Modern America is very heavily influenced by the Romans. Much of our "intelligence" comes from their inventions. Bare None, the ROMANS WERE the GREATEST EMPIRE EVER!

The ROmans ruled for 500 years...THE WORLD...America is barley over 200 years old!
The Romans never ruled the world. They only controlled Western Europe and the Mediterranean. The brief term as ruler of the world for the US is because of capitalism/industrialization, powers rise and fall much faster now.

Russia continues to control more land than the Romans did at the peak of their power and has ruled over a far greater population.
 
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