Best ways to increae yield. Tell us your secrets!!

[ismokealotofpot]

psh..............

 

[bob harris]

psh..............

If that's for my clarification of lummens..my point is simple. The hortilux eye 600w at 88,000 lumens, produces more USABLE light that the digilux 600 at 95,000 lummens..just trying to help people buy the right bulbs...or save yourself a few bucks and buy the Digilux, after all, it has more lumens.

 

[richinweed]

Not so much lumens..lumens is something people see..not plants. Usable light in the correct spectrum, primarily 430-460nm and 630 or so to 660 is all that matters some uvb too if you'd like.. It's why enough leds will work..not many lumens at all.

Not to pick on you...but there is a difference. What you need is PAR light..Photosynthetic Active Range. But the over all thought is correct..so much light only covers so muc area, and how many plants you cram into that area doesn't mean much. One plant can out yield 5 depending on lighting and area.

And what is the measurement of skill? Yield, or quality? Or somewhere in between...unfortunately, I know lots of guys that can grow heavy yield Indicas, but the quality is mid at best...Which Is why I NEVER CONCENTRATED ON YIELD..

...thats an interesting take, for many years i never really concentrated on yield as there always seemed enough, for my self and so on...i grew very few strains but always in the 17 years i grew from that spot had purple indicas on the go, its funny i guess i didnt kno how well i had it then,back home on the coast,anyway those indicas became second nature and became very hardy as to my selection over time, outdoor i could get easy 12 to 15 ox per 3 foot tall 4 foot wide indica, minimal effort, so i think the longevity factor plays an important roll in the amount of production..as i easily with little input would get a pound off 4 small plants under 1 k hps.......now back at square one im struggling to get near that...

 

[purklize]

if you concentrate on happy plants..your yield will follow.

Yeah, that's pretty much all there's to it.

I know lots of guys that can grow heavy yield Indicas, but the quality is mid at best

I always thought yield and quality went hand in hand... both depending on a happy, healthy plant.

some people swear by lolipopping the cutting of lower smaller branches.

I do this, but not for yield, but to avoid trimming tons of popcorn. Real PITA. Also increases air flow which is always a good thing, and makes it easier to spot any pests. If you smear a bit of tanglefoot on the stem after lollipopping you are almost miteproof (unless you get them on your clothes) because mites, unless dropped on the plant by you, get in by climbing the stem... (or on branches touching some other surface, usually the ground/dirt).

 

[bob harris]

Yeah, that's pretty much all there's to it.



I always thought yield and quality went hand in hand... both depending on a happy, healthy plant.



I do this, but not for yield, but to avoid trimming tons of popcorn. Real PITA. Also increases air flow which is always a good thing, and makes it easier to spot any pests. If you smear a bit of tanglefoot on the stem after lollipopping you are almost miteproof (unless you get them on your clothes) because mites, unless dropped on the plant by you, get in by climbing the stem... (or on branches touching some other surface, usually the ground/dirt).

To a degree I'd agree with yield and quality going together..based on the happy plant theory. But things like spending the money on UVB light, and using it properly..will drastically increase Thc/Thcv production..without increasing yield. But yes, happy plants are going to naturally come close to their potential. And soil with organics will reduce over all yields..but will taste better every time.

With growing it always comes down to "what are you trying to acomplish"?

 

[ismokealotofpot]

tangle foot that's a good idea. I would have to agree with the lolipopping you won't get more yield but the tops look way better imo. that and vertical lights go hand and hand

 

[bob harris]

I have found the biggest improvement in yield has been regulating a consistent Temp and humidity in your room. Keep it 72-78 degrees w/o CO2 and 45-55% RH. The biggest difference in yield I noticed was when I started not letting my temps at night drop below 64 degrees. once you master the enviroment then start experimenting with other things.

Amen to that.

 

[ismokealotofpot]

To a degree I'd agree with yield and quality going together..based on the happy plant theory. But things like spending the money on UVB light, and using it properly..will drastically increase Thc/Thcv production..without increasing yield. But yes, happy plants are going to naturally come close to their potential. And soil with organics will reduce over all yields..but will taste better every time.

With growing it always comes down to "what are you trying to acomplish"?

some of my best stuff was grown with chemical fertilizer. best tasting, biggest buds, best smell.

 

[bob harris]

tangle foot that's a good idea. I would have to agree with the lolipopping you won't get more yield but the tops look way better imo. that and vertical lights go hand and hand

My experience with lolloping is that the yield doesn't increase..but your weight is in tops, not popcorn.

 

[ismokealotofpot]

correct!!!!!!!

 

[purklize]

Yeah I've tried using organics then tried Botanicare (cheap nutes) in DWC, everything was better with the latter - growth, quality, density, yield, taste, effect.

But things like spending the money on UVB light, and using it properly..will drastically increase Thc/Thcv production..without increasing yield.

This is true. I use UVB and the difference is obvious. One side of a cola will look like it got stuck out a car window in a blizzard.

 

[hic]

Lots of air, airy soil even will increase yeilds.

Keep plants elavated from ground so more air enters the planter from underside. Tip 1 to increase yeild is AIR it is simple no nutes or money needed for that bump in growth.

 

[gladstoned]

I am actually going to try this. I will build a well vented platform for one of my lights for the shorter plants instead of having my light so low. That will be better on my back too.

 

[bob harris]

Yeah I've tried using organics then tried Botanicare (cheap nutes) in DWC, everything was better with the latter - growth, quality, density, yield, taste, effect.



This is true. I use UVB and the difference is obvious. One side of a cola will look like it got stuck out a car window in a blizzard.

Yea, you do want to turn your plants with the uvb on...I do at least once a day. I only use it the last 10 days or so...longer doesn't seem to do much more...it can only frost up so much..Uvb not only increases the number of trichs, but the thc/thcv value inside them as well. UVB is valid..by my observations.

 

[FatMarty]

As suggested by longroot on another thread.

I am glad that most of you are here and thanks for debating the shit out of this topic. Lets start a new thread on ways we've found to increase yield. That should be a good one.

oh ya. Plus rep for anyone that helps me double my yield. lol.

Grow twice as many plants.
Thanks for the rep point.

 

[gladstoned]

Yeah I've tried using organics then tried Botanicare (cheap nutes) in DWC, everything was better with the latter - growth, quality, density, yield, taste, effect.



This is true. I use UVB and the difference is obvious. One side of a cola will look like it got stuck out a car window in a blizzard.

I would like to see this.

 

[cannabineer]

As suggested by longroot on another thread.

I am glad that most of you are here and thanks for debating the shit out of this topic. Lets start a new thread on ways we've found to increase yield. That should be a good one.

oh ya. Plus rep for anyone that helps me double my yield. lol.

I didn't see anyone else say it, so: "double the area under cultivation". cn

 

[gladstoned]

I didn't see anyone else say it, so: "double the area under cultivation". cn

+rep. did that and it worked. Highly suggest it.

 

[purklize]

I might have some photos of said colas but I don't think they turned out too well... my camera is crappy and I wasn't shooting to show the contrast.

The difference is huge. The first time I smoked one of those frosted nugs I almost freaked out because it was so unexpectedly intense... off one hit.

The light needs to be pretty close to the plants, 4ft away isn't going to cut it. It was usually 1-2ft from mine. There never was any sign of injury so maybe it could've been closer.

Just be careful with your eyes around those things. One time I entered the tent with it still on, and glanced at it - saw it glowing (it does produce some visible light), thought OH SHIT and went staggering backwards frantically escaping the tent... the rest of the night my eyes were bloodshot, dry, my vision was fuzzy... not good. So what I do now is turn the light on manually only, and when I do so, I tie a red bandana around the zippers, so I have a reminder. Do remember also, fluoros take a minute to stop producing light, and the UVB bulbs are fluoros, so... wait a minute to enter after you turn them off.

 

[FatMarty]

It helps if you watch them grow.
Grape-13:


You know you did good when you don't want to kill the bitch and stuff her in the fridge.
With the others.

At least that's what I've heard.

I use LST and do some lower trimming sometimes to get more out of a plant.
If you take a good look at the plant each day you can see stuff and address it as it comes up.

I spend time maximizing my canopy while trying to move plants around to different angles if I am going for yield.
A little more weight on this branch - a little less on that one, etc.