Thinking Of switching to EBB and FLOW Bucket system Need some TIPS!

[Goonz1190]

Hey guys just looking for some advice ive been growing in soil for a while with 4000 watts for flowering and now ive been looking into this EBB and FLOW Bucket system because im getting tierd of watering
and ive really wanted to try hydro I just have a few question

1: How many buckets would you put under one 1000watt ?
2: Is this system efficient ?
3: Will you expect bigger yields off this system ?


Also Dose anyone have a thread on a simaliar size grow running the same system ?

Thanks Hope to hear from some people with knowledge on this growing method

 

[phillipchristian]

Yea, check these 3 threads out. The first one is really good and the guys in the last two are really knowledgeable. Post any questions you have and they will answer quickly. Read through the first thread and the first pages of the other 2. They have tons of info on you to make the system efficient.

A Newb Grow Journal
++Hellraizers++ DO AND DONTs and in and outs of the ebb&grow/ebb&flow systems
For All Cap Ebb and Grow Users

 

[Goonz1190]

Yea, check these 3 threads out. The first one is really good and the guys in the last two are really knowledgeable. Post any questions you have and they will answer quickly. Read through the first thread and the first pages of the other 2. They have tons of info on you to make the system efficient.

A Newb Grow Journal
++Hellraizers++ DO AND DONTs and in and outs of the ebb&grow/ebb&flow systems
For All Cap Ebb and Grow Users

Perfect just took a quick look but im am going to read deep into it! Thanks alot appreciate it

 

[hellraizer30]

So your planning on running x4 1000s? If so i think 14 to 16 buckets, so 4buckets per light if you plan to veg a long time
Those numbers will decrease! As for yields hands down you will see better yields, but there will be a learning curve to this
System! That I and nuglets and drg and others that are active will be happy to help with!

 

[phillipchristian]

^^^^like^^^^

 

[Warlock1369]

I run 6 under 1000 and 3 under my 600. So in my room I have 15 buckets. 1000's on the outer and the 600 in the mid. But it also depends on the size you plan to grow. 2 footers under 4000 you could easily go with 36. 4+ footers more like 20-24.

 

[Goonz1190]

So your planning on running x4 1000s? If so i think 14 to 16 buckets, so 4buckets per light if you plan to veg a long time
Those numbers will decrease! As for yields hands down you will see better yields, but there will be a learning curve to this
System! That I and nuglets and drg and others that are active will be happy to help with!

Thanks for the advice!! dont u think 4 buckets per light is kind cutting it small ? i grow in soil right now and i usally just veg upto my knee thats usally the rule of thumb we use
so im thinking of staying with the same concept ! And about the learning curve! dont start scaring me haha

I run 6 under 1000 and 3 under my 600. So in my room I have 15 buckets. 1000's on the outer and the 600 in the mid. But it also depends on the size you plan to grow. 2 footers under 4000 you could easily go with 36. 4+ footers more like 20-24.

Sounds good! u usally veg about 2 feet tall and what kinda yeild r u pulling per 1000w with this system ?

 

[hellraizer30]

@goonz

Back some time ago i flowered out 20 nice girls in a ebb, and there was x4 600 over them. The yield was 1zip less the 4p

The next crop i had a shortage in clones so i could only flower 13 girls setup was the same! And the end yield was 4p

So less is more! A plant that gets more light and isnt over shadowed will yield

 

[Warlock1369]

Last grow I got about .4g per watt. Yes I veg to 18-24 inch. My plants stop growing between 4-5 weeks in flower. So with some lst keep then around 4 foot.

 

[Warlock1369]

That is so true. I know I could get a ton of plant in my flower room sence it's 7x14 but only keep 15. Better light for each plant. Plus I like my trees. Nothing better then having 1 branch be bigger then most others growers plant. I love it. Lol.

@goonz

Back some time ago i flowered out 20 nice girls in a ebb, and there was x4 600 over them. The yield was 1zip less the 4p

The next crop i had a shortage in clones so i could only flower 13 girls setup was the same! And the end yield was 4p

So less is more! A plant that gets more light and isnt over shadowed will yield

 

[hellraizer30]

Yep and it helps keep numbers low! And thats always a good thing

 

[legallyflying]

4 grand per watt...? I'm calling bullshit on that one.

Anyways, I agree that 4 plants per light seems about right unless your going to scrog or train heavily. Ebb and grow buckets are the most simple hydro out there. Just do a little research about nutrient strength, timing of different nutes, and the relationship between ppm and ph. Also, don't go crazy with the additives

 

[Goonz1190]

You guys have been a tone of help soo far ! What ive gotten out of it is i should run" 4-6 buckets under each 1000w and veg up to my knee "
ive always wanted to try hydro and this system seems to be the most giving ! In my soil set up i usally run 9-12 plants per light and im yeilding on a average 5-6 lbs and ive always been told to
go hydro and it will increase my yields and no more Wand watering ! " dancing " lol

 

[Warlock1369]

Once you get the hydro down yields will go up. But any mess up like I did and 2.5 lb better make you happy. Lol.

 

[Warlock1369]

4 grand per watt...? I'm calling bullshit on that one.

Anyways, I agree that 4 plants per light seems about right unless your going to scrog or train heavily. Ebb and grow buckets are the most simple hydro out there. Just do a little research about nutrient strength, timing of different nutes, and the relationship between ppm and ph. Also, don't go crazy with the additives

Come on! Befor you call bull shit get it rite. It was harvest. And i said 4 grams a watt. It should of been .4 grams. I'll fix the typo.

 

[Goonz1190]

Once you get the hydro down yields will go up. But any mess up like I did and 2.5 lb better make you happy. Lol.

2.5 on 4k I would shoot myself hahaha what caused that kinda yield !?!?

 

[Warlock1369]

I setup a Res with nutes got called to work for 4 days not realizing my ppm spiked at 1600 first week. Came back to some crispy critters. But after 3 weeks of more veg they came back but nothing like they should of been. I run 2600w and still got 2.66 zips a plant but should of gotten 4 or more. It's things like that that set you back but can be fixed. And 2.5 is better then 0 and starting over.

 

[Goonz1190]

Ahh shitty that's what scares me about hydro like what it's means when your ppm Jumps or when your ppm drops . But I am going to make the change for my new set up just picked 4 - 1000 watts digital ballast set up with cool tubes and a lot more goodies I'll upload a couple pics too show y'all what I'm gonna have running in the room with the ebb and grow system gonna be top notch cant wait

 

[legallyflying]

The flood and drain is EASY. Your nutes won't fluctuate that much. I have left my garden completely unattended for 10 days with no problems but that takes some time to get to that level.

Dont buy a system. Just build one. I got 24 4 gallon square buckets for $40 on Craig's list. Tapped and plumbed 12 of them to a control bucket, then drilled holes in the bottom of the other 12, filled them with hydroton, and place them inside the plumbed bucket. Grab a 50 gallon drum for nutrients....done.

That is also something to think about..the size of your Rez. Filled with hydroton, a 5 gallon bucket will need about 2.25 gallons of nutes to flood enough. So I'm that example, get your plant numbers below 20 to be able to use a 55 gallon barrel

 

[Goonz1190]

ya i was looking just to buy the system thats alrdy together and ready to go until i figure out how the system works then it will be alot easier to build my own .
i was looking at this one exactly http://www.igrowhydro.com/Ebb-N-Gro_24_site_kit.aspx let me know what you think!

PS or the 12 site system and just buy the 6 bucket add on !