LED Without LEDs -My First T5 Grow

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Lucius Vorenus

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Some ladies about4 weeks into Veg this is a room I setup for a couple of patients. Par lighting and we just flipped them to Flower about 10 days ago. Will update with more pics soon. For flower we don't have a ton of luck with Par and think we prefer all Bloom bulbs with a couple of Flora Suns mixed in. Will see how we yield out this time around. I have Par grows going for myself as well as 4 other grows for compliant patients. All are T5.

These plants have all been either LSt's or heavily supercropped.

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AltarNation

AltarNation

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Undercover Cop said:
I "like" this^^^

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I guess we just gotta clog up their storage with a million "I 'like' this" posts...
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Yep. Like. ;)

I peaked at my babies today... I can see the bud growth each time I look lately... soooo wonderful! I will do a new set of pics when I water... :) Air pot babies are growing like crazy too... I think I'm going to FIM the one I left untouched after all, she's pulling ahead of the crowd with the race horse now...
 
Undercover Cop

Undercover Cop

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Nice :)

I dont know if the post was erased during the "great meltdown"... but Im officially T5 exclusive now, from nursery thru flower. No more HPS. 27 tubes total. 960-ish watts in flower, 390-ish watts veg, 96w in the nursery. T5 vs HPS, after seeing the additional trich development now, sugary fuckin frosted leaves and buds, much more so than with my 400wHPS in a cool tube at 4-5" away, I put the HPS away, sitting in my garage now :) PAR T5 has proven itself well enough for me
 
AltarNation

AltarNation

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Undercover Cop said:
Nice :)

I dont know if the post was erased during the "great meltdown"... but Im officially T5 exclusive now, from nursery thru flower. No more HPS. 27 tubes total. 960-ish watts in flower, 390-ish watts veg, 96w in the nursery. T5 vs HPS, after seeing the additional trich development now, sugary fuckin frosted leaves and buds, much more so than with my 400wHPS in a cool tube at 4-5" away, I put the HPS away, sitting in my garage now :) PAR T5 has proven itself well enough for me
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Haha, very cool. I have to admit, I was amazed at the level of frosty I got to last time. Did not expect to produce such primo quality!!

Sounds like a good setup... I am running 4 4' tubes (216 watts) in my veg chamber and 10 4' bulbs (540w) in my flower chamber... but when the current flower batch finished I'm going to drop the veg chamber fixture in with the 10 for a 14 bulb flowering run next. So that will be a 756w flowering run. :)

BTW, with 960 watts in flower, what is your bulb line-up? All PAR?

I was thinking about just dropping in 4 3000k bloom bulbs I have to fill out the balance, and just spread 'em out evenly amongst the PAR bulbs. Might as well use what I've got on hand.

P.S. Reppin' up my PAR T5 brothers 'n sisters in lieu of likes!
 
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Dubdeuce

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Hey Professur, what was your yield with your T5 setup and how big of an area did you use? I definitely dig the whole concept and love all the facts you have put together. Well done and definitely impressed with the growth for being T5. Could you point me to final flowering pictures so I don't have to sift 280 pages of posts on this thread? I've seen your early stages/up to week 4 in flower.
 
Undercover Cop

Undercover Cop

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AltarNation said:
Haha, very cool. I have to admit, I was amazed at the level of frosty I got to last time. Did not expect to produce such primo quality!!

Sounds like a good setup... I am running 4 4' tubes (216 watts) in my veg chamber and 10 4' bulbs (540w) in my flower chamber... but when the current flower batch finished I'm going to drop the veg chamber fixture in with the 10 for a 14 bulb flowering run next. So that will be a 756w flowering run. :)

BTW, with 960 watts in flower, what is your bulb line-up? All PAR?

I was thinking about just dropping in 4 3000k bloom bulbs I have to fill out the balance, and just spread 'em out evenly amongst the PAR bulbs. Might as well use what I've got on hand.

P.S. Reppin' up my PAR T5 brothers 'n sisters in lieu of likes!
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I gotta wait a few days before I can rep you again...

WHERES THE LIKE BUTTON ROLLIE???

anywhoo... All PAR
Veg is 7 tubes total= 50/50... FloraSun/420-460 Actinics (3 of ea) +1 ReefWave 420nm
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FlowerBox is 16 total. 4 tubes sidelight= FloraSun/CoralWave/Roseate/FloraSun, repeated on the opposing panel. then 8 overhead= FloraSun/RedSun/CoralWave/PlantGrow/FloraSun/CoralWave/RedSun/PlantGrow. Eventually I want to swap out the Roseates for RedSun's, but Im ok with it for now.
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I also have the 4bulb 2ft panel from the nursery in the flowering box while Im not germinating/cloning. used as sidelighting on the 3rd side, 2x6500k's/1xFS/1x420-460nm actinic
 
AltarNation

AltarNation

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Woooooo... beautiful! What a bulb collection you've got there! I bet your veg chamber grows out of control with all those actinic bulbs... :)
 
AltarNation

AltarNation

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Dubdeuce said:
Hey Professur, what was your yield with your T5 setup and how big of an area did you use? I definitely dig the whole concept and love all the facts you have put together. Well done and definitely impressed with the growth for being T5. Could you point me to final flowering pictures so I don't have to sift 280 pages of posts on this thread? I've seen your early stages/up to week 4 in flower.
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FYI, I pulled about 9.5 Oz's off 7 plants in a 4x3 space with one 8-bulb 4' PAR T5 setup. (432 watts total) Not gonna track down pics for you, but those are the numbers for me.
 
Undercover Cop

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MurshDawg said:
Hey Undercover! What are bulbs do you use for your germination light?
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I used to use 3 to 1 6500k/3000k 26w cfls (7 total).. Now with 4 2ft T5 bulbs, I use 2 of the stock 6500k tubes alone, until I see true leaves (or new growth for clones) then I kick on the other two tubes, a 420\460 actinic and a FloraSun
 
AltarNation

AltarNation

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Undercover Cop said:
I used to use 3 to 1 6500k/3000k 26w cfls (7 total).. Now with 4 2ft T5 bulbs, I use 2 of the stock 6500k tubes alone, until I see true leaves (or new growth for clones) then I kick on the other two tubes, a 420\460 actinic and a FloraSun
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Sounds good! I think I might pull one of the 454's in my veg chamber and put in a 6500k to balance the light a little more... (right now it's 454,75/25,SuperActinic,454)
 
MurshDawg

MurshDawg

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You guys think the PAR curve for the 6500ks are better for propagation than the 3000ks? I thought 3 ks spread was wider and better, imo... but maybe that 6500k has just the amount of blue.
 
ThirdHyeOpen

ThirdHyeOpen

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Excellent reading minus the gap, so much info for my newbie brain. question for blueb and the pr0, what ever became of the lighting you were looking to have manufactured ? Also I would love to get a recommendation from the par t5 collective on a 4 foot 8 bulb bloom configuration.
 
Undercover Cop

Undercover Cop

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MurshDawg said:
You guys think the PAR curve for the 6500ks are better for propagation than the 3000ks? I thought 3 ks spread was wider and better, imo... but maybe that 6500k has just the amount of blue.
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Yeah, the 6500k's have more useable blue, and neither have much useable red. The bloom bulbs have drastically less blue, and about the same amt of 630-660 as the grows, so as far as PAR output I think the 6500k's provide more usable output. Much of a bloom bulbs output will be in the less utilized yellow/orange region. Although neither can compare to FloraSun's, which provide both PAR Blue and Red
 
ValleGrown

ValleGrown

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I Shall be In the PAR T5 Group Soon enough. I just ordered me a 2 ft 8 bulb T5 fixture.
Though i read the thread i am still a little confused on the setup and the nM wave length that is needed with the correct order to disperse the light correctly..

I will be in Flowering shortly so i will need a flowering setup
Does anyone want to help me out here.

Im thinking that i will have the

Fiji Purple
Super Blue Actinic
Red
75.25
Fiji Purple
Red
Super Blus Actinic
Fiji Purple


BUT

I dont know what bulbs are in the RED spectra.



I know the PRO said that he used www.aquariumspecialty.com as his bulb supplier. But they no longer carry the ATI bulb that he referenced. can some one reefer me to another bulb.

Thanks Much..


I cannot wait to join the ranks.

First thing on my list.....


FUCKING SCROG COMPETITION WITH THE PAR T5 GROUP..

Unless some one beat me too it. :D




IF SOME ONE WOULD BE KIND ENOUGH TO SHOW ME TO A BULB THAT SUPPORTS THE FAR RED SPECTRUM THAT WOULD BE GREAT...

Im still searching google. ...:(
 
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