flowamasta
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maaaan, i am sooo interested in this, i got a little greenhouse perfect for that!, some spare cash and all!, if u get a minute can u pm me a link to where u get these spores?? I'm in australia, is this atall possible?
My Little Greenhouse
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Prints for you buddy. Try to have someone from out of your zone resend em to ya'. I hear that everyone from your "neck of the woods" gets their syringes snagged b4 they even come out of the airport. I'm sure that someone could help ya. Too bad that info was erased from a previous thread.
BatCave
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I did take a break
. I also told myself 3 years ago that a 2x2 tent and a 250hps was going to be all I ever used or needed, then there were 300w LED's, a 400w hps, and 600w hps, and now I run a 1000w in a 4x4x7. It has turned into a major hobby for me and with my extreme ADHD it really gives me something to do. These are the first bags I have done in 2 months. They are 14 days since I spawned to the substrate, have at least another 7 days before fruiting.
Someguy15
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Nice I think I have most of the process down, but I'm a little confused about the spawning. But say I buy the pre-sterilized 3lb rye berry bags (http://everythingmushrooms.com/grow-your-own-mushrooms/sterilized-substrates-and-media/sterilized-rye-mushroom-grow-and-spawn-bag-w-injection-site-3lb/) how/when do I go about spawning to substrate (I'm thinkin coco/verm). I also cannot find a legit source for turkey litter. I think I want to do shoebox or slightly larger sized trays with the coco/verm for bulk substrate. Also is it advisable to split up each spawn bag into 2 trays at spawn in case of contamination? Or am I over thinking it all and should I just birth and fruit strait out of the pre-made spawn bags? Lol sorry for 1000?sI did take a break
These are the first bags I have done in 2 months. They are 14 days since I spawned to the substrate, have at least another 7 days before fruiting.
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BatCave
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You have to inoculate something like rye berries, bird seed, etc... Once that has collinized fully you spawn it to the substrate of choice (coco coir and a bag of jiffy seed starter works well, you dont have to have the turkey litter, the seed starter I buy has it already), then let it do its thing for 14 to 21 days then fruit it. The hardest part for me originally was that you have to be completely sterile while doing it to make sure no contams take over, build a cheap "still-box" to do all your inoculations, spawning, etc..
My suggestion is to start with a syringe and a pre-made rye berry spawn bag, then spawn that to a pre-made substrate bag. Get your feet wet so to speak, and then you can see how cheap and simple it is to make it all yourself. What you spend to start with pre-made bags is what you can make 10 bags for yourself, but the pre-made is great to get a couple batches to tie you over until you get it down.
My suggestion is to start with a syringe and a pre-made rye berry spawn bag, then spawn that to a pre-made substrate bag. Get your feet wet so to speak, and then you can see how cheap and simple it is to make it all yourself. What you spend to start with pre-made bags is what you can make 10 bags for yourself, but the pre-made is great to get a couple batches to tie you over until you get it down.
Good sound advice. Then while that's moving. You can begin to make your own jars/bags.
canndo
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Once you have fully colonized spawn in any large amount (more than one bag), you can go anywhere you wish. You can spawn straw with it, coir, horse manure, worm castings, or compost, you can even simply case the spawn and go at it that way. Rule of thumb is one cup of spawn per cubic foot of substrate but you are pushing the edge with that ratio because it will likely take up your entire non-contamination window. Best to double that. If you have good spawn, all you have to do is make sure that your substrate is well pasturized and you take some care with spawning so that your work is as clean as it can be - in this case, contrary to what I have said, it is usually best to keep your temperature as close to optimum while running your substrate as possible so that your mycelium will outrun any contamination that you have picked up in the bulk.
BatCave
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Cheap still box is easy. $10 for the Sterilte clear box, and $10 for tyvek painters suit. Just cut 2 holes in the side and attach the arms from the tyvek suit and your done. When using just make sure to spray it down with Lysol or something before putting the lid on and give it about 5 minutes for the lysol to settle and work
canndo
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Never depend upon lysol or any other spray as your only surface disinfectant. I find that those little anticeptic premoistened wipes are damn good. The physical friction of actually wiping surfaces is far better even than a surface wetted by lysol.
Now, there was a time before hepa filters (and even since I guess) where people used a fine oil mist emitter in order to clean their rooms. The emitter put a very fine cloud of sterile oil into the atmosphere. The principle was that most spores cling to particles, motes, bits of dust and the like which very gradualy floated to the ground (or any flat surface) - a quick check of the screen on your tube tv or monitor will show you the particles I am talking about (you agar people, try swabbing your tv screen and growing that out - you will then know what is in your air).
the oil mist tends to cling to these particles in the air, making them heavier and driving them to the ground. Eventually the oil itself evaporated. If you use the same concept by spraying the room from top to bottom with lysol, and then after a few minutes spraying the inside of your still air chamber and letting everything settle for 10 minutes or so you will find that you have a very workable semi-sterile environment that can be depended upon for half an hour or more in perfectly still conditions. Finally, lysol (and the cheaper stuff you can find at any 99 cent store) takes at least 5 minutes and possibly 10 to kill mold and mold spores so see to it that your surfaces are wetted enough for everything to be moist for 5 minutes at least.
Now, there was a time before hepa filters (and even since I guess) where people used a fine oil mist emitter in order to clean their rooms. The emitter put a very fine cloud of sterile oil into the atmosphere. The principle was that most spores cling to particles, motes, bits of dust and the like which very gradualy floated to the ground (or any flat surface) - a quick check of the screen on your tube tv or monitor will show you the particles I am talking about (you agar people, try swabbing your tv screen and growing that out - you will then know what is in your air).
the oil mist tends to cling to these particles in the air, making them heavier and driving them to the ground. Eventually the oil itself evaporated. If you use the same concept by spraying the room from top to bottom with lysol, and then after a few minutes spraying the inside of your still air chamber and letting everything settle for 10 minutes or so you will find that you have a very workable semi-sterile environment that can be depended upon for half an hour or more in perfectly still conditions. Finally, lysol (and the cheaper stuff you can find at any 99 cent store) takes at least 5 minutes and possibly 10 to kill mold and mold spores so see to it that your surfaces are wetted enough for everything to be moist for 5 minutes at least.
stonestare
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I like your rack that you grow your shrooms in with the plastic where did you get it at?
ImAgIaNtInDaGrOwWoRlD
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Someguy15
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Awesome thanks for that quick tutorial. I see lots of lysol spray and wipes in my future. I take it 99% iso is also an effective sterilizer for needles, injection sites ect?
canndo
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Unnk
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i always went with diluted bleach with all my cleaning needs to lol this means with most projects like cleaning a resevoir for my plants lol