SpliffAndMyLady
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Thanks, great looking aliendawg by the way. I'm interested in the chemdawg strain..OG Kush and sour d sounds in one..good to me Very Happy
250w HPS Club And Help Guide
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I85BLAX
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the pre 98 is looking real official!
Doobieus
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My goodness, lots of catching up to do.
Welcome to all new users/members!!
If you're looking at growing with a 250 there are some general rules of thumb to keep in mind. A 250 light can penetrate up to 3-4 ft after that you're just wasting lumens. It can also handle a space of 3x3ft - 4x4ft yeah there's a pattern with the 3's and 4's here lol. CFM's calculate them, it will help your ventilation tons. Carbon filter is a must for smell issues. You need your main fans for ventilation (Helps keep things cool) as well as a smaller fan or two inside the grow area to circulate air (Helps with mold issues, added ventilation, and makes branches/stems stronger.). That's the basics on a setup, after that it depends on what medium/technique/grow style you're going with.
As far as beans, there are a lot of great banks out there. I try to stay away from recommendations, because people have different likes. As I always say, different tokes for different folks. Attitude, Single Seed Centre are two of the more popular banks out there. You have to experience it for yourself, online reviews sometimes don't tell the whole story.
Hope this helps.
@Courage: I know one toker who's happy as heck right now lol. Man Blue Dream is nice, I've had two different phenos of the stuff. One was fruitier, the other was more hashy/earthy/peppery. I liked the one that had more fruit/creme-ish tones but both were great smokes for sure. As far as the Aliendawg, I have some GreenCrack x AlienDawg. You may have just given me some motivation to grow that out lol. Although you have made my next grow selection much harder lol. Great bud porn.
@Cbt: Pre-98 Bubba, mmmmm. Man you can't go wrong with Bubba or strains crossed with it seriously, it's some really great smoke. Looks awesome, as always great pictures Cbt.
To all the contributors of all this great bud porn, great jobs keep it up!! Makes me jealous I'm not in bloom yet lol.
Welcome to all new users/members!!
If you're looking at growing with a 250 there are some general rules of thumb to keep in mind. A 250 light can penetrate up to 3-4 ft after that you're just wasting lumens. It can also handle a space of 3x3ft - 4x4ft yeah there's a pattern with the 3's and 4's here lol. CFM's calculate them, it will help your ventilation tons. Carbon filter is a must for smell issues. You need your main fans for ventilation (Helps keep things cool) as well as a smaller fan or two inside the grow area to circulate air (Helps with mold issues, added ventilation, and makes branches/stems stronger.). That's the basics on a setup, after that it depends on what medium/technique/grow style you're going with.
As far as beans, there are a lot of great banks out there. I try to stay away from recommendations, because people have different likes. As I always say, different tokes for different folks. Attitude, Single Seed Centre are two of the more popular banks out there. You have to experience it for yourself, online reviews sometimes don't tell the whole story.
Hope this helps.
@Courage: I know one toker who's happy as heck right now lol. Man Blue Dream is nice, I've had two different phenos of the stuff. One was fruitier, the other was more hashy/earthy/peppery. I liked the one that had more fruit/creme-ish tones but both were great smokes for sure. As far as the Aliendawg, I have some GreenCrack x AlienDawg. You may have just given me some motivation to grow that out lol. Although you have made my next grow selection much harder lol. Great bud porn.
@Cbt: Pre-98 Bubba, mmmmm. Man you can't go wrong with Bubba or strains crossed with it seriously, it's some really great smoke. Looks awesome, as always great pictures Cbt.
To all the contributors of all this great bud porn, great jobs keep it up!! Makes me jealous I'm not in bloom yet lol.
GreenGrower14
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GreenGrower14
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I also think im gonna order some Ripped Bubba from Subcool, i was watching the weed nerd while he was on a dispensary tour in Seattle and the Clinic showed to different phenos of it and they both made my mouth water literally, All this bud porn makes me excited my girl is stretching XD
Matchbox
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Snap with the lots of catching up seeing as I was erased from this thread as I've only posted in the last month haha...
Oh well anyhoo, as usual everyone's bud is looking fucking sweet as... going to be putting my white widow and cotton candy under my 250 watter in a week or so just to give me something else to do besides wait for mothers to veg
check out my journal for an update.One thing I'll add to your starting with a 250w lamp, don't worry about the space, worry about the extraction
My cab is, h-80cm x w-65cm x d-38cm, 4 inch 230m3 an hour extraction to carbon filter temps solid 18-24*C.
So you can use them in tiny spaces XD
Stay Frosty!
Doobieus
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I disagree with the don't worry about extraction/space part, if there was no need to worry about it then why do most growers have them? Also space you want to worry about as far as going too big for the light, you lose more reflectivity/lumens. Parabolic is different somewhat from a hood because you are not directing the light with a reflector/hood. So with parabolic you wouldn't really have to worry about the height lumen loss bit, but the 3x3-4x4 would still apply parabolic or not. Don't get me wrong you can get away with it, but the results probably won't be as good. Loss of lumens + heat stress ='s not very happy plants. Not trying to be rude, just stating an opinion.New notification, 1 new likes received - Matchbox Likes your post!
Snap with the lots of catching up seeing as I was erased from this thread as I've only posted in the last month haha...
Oh well anyhoo, as usual everyone's bud is looking fucking sweet as... going to be putting my white widow and cotton candy under my 250 watter in a week or so just to give me something else to do besides wait for mothers to veg
One thing I'll add to your starting with a 250w lamp, don't worry about the space, worry about the extraction
My cab is, h-80cm x w-65cm x d-38cm, 4 inch 230m3 an hour extraction to carbon filter temps solid 18-24*C.
So you can use them in tiny spaces XD
Stay Frosty!
I started pretty ghetto myself, but in the long run when I look back on it all. If I had just forked over some extra cash, I would've been better off. To each is their own but raising the bar never hurt anyone.... well almost anyone lol.
Doobieus
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New notification, 1 new likes received - Matchbox Likes your post!
Snap with the lots of catching up seeing as I was erased from this thread as I've only posted in the last month haha...
Oh well anyhoo, as usual everyone's bud is looking fucking sweet as... going to be putting my white widow and cotton candy under my 250 watter in a week or so just to give me something else to do besides wait for mothers to veg
One thing I'll add to your starting with a 250w lamp, don't worry about the space, worry about the extraction
My cab is, h-80cm x w-65cm x d-38cm, 4 inch 230m3 an hour extraction to carbon filter temps solid 18-24*C.
So you can use them in tiny spaces XD
Stay Frosty!
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Lol GG I miss our like button!! Rahr!!
Matchbox
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I meant that you SHOULD worry about extraction and not so much about space as in if you only have a small space it would still be worth considering a 250w HPS as you can control temps, it was more trying to say 250w HPS doesn't really put out that much heat and is easily controlled in smaller areas if needed... Granted your dimensions are a good kind of 'general' good idea.
Though if you did have a huuuge space with only a 250w in it you can still optimize it as most lamps come with those dodgy 'euro' reflectors that you can bend all over the place just keep the lamps as close as possible to the tops of the plants and your not losing a noticeable amount of light (unless you have no reflector in which case you will lose a LOT : )
I think however I have built the perfect size box for a 250w HPS (if you like ScrOG) going to put some pics up again in my sig thread as they all got deleted
Edit: And some here XDView attachment 2079340View attachment 2079341
Stay Frosty!
Doobieus
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Lol my bad I read that wrongI meant that you SHOULD worry about extraction and not so much about space as in if you only have a small space it would still be worth considering a 250w HPS as you can control temps, it was more trying to say 250w HPS doesn't really put out that much heat and is easily controlled in smaller areas if needed... Granted your dimensions are a good kind of 'general' good idea.
Though if you did have a huuuge space with only a 250w in it you can still optimize it as most lamps come with those dodgy 'euro' reflectors that you can bend all over the place just keep the lamps as close as possible to the tops of the plants and your not losing a noticeable amount of light (unless you have no reflector in which case you will lose a LOT : )
I think however I have built the perfect size box for a 250w HPS (if you like ScrOG) going to put some pics up again in my sig thread as they all got deleted
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Stay Frosty!
. Re-read it and realized that. I thought it read as don't worry about the space OR worry about the extraction the first time through. Reading and multi-tasking do not mix well for me apparently lol.Not every one has a wing style reflector. So I suppose it really depends on the gear you're running. I think it'd serve better to get/build a tent/cab because it works with all 250 light setups with no loss you know? 3x3ft is what a 250 works well in, 4x4ft is actually pushing it imho.
The cab looks good, you're doing a semi vert scrog?
Matchbox
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haha no worries! yeah I agree with the 3x3 good kind of overall size!
and definitely build a cab around your light, THAT is the best advice you can give. Like mine was, the dished screen utilizes as much light as possible, no 1 part of the screen is more than 25cm away from the bulb's most practical field, if you could imagine a visible cylinder of light around the bulb.
But yeah it's a dished scrog to utilize the bulb the best once the screen is filled.
and definitely build a cab around your light, THAT is the best advice you can give. Like mine was, the dished screen utilizes as much light as possible, no 1 part of the screen is more than 25cm away from the bulb's most practical field, if you could imagine a visible cylinder of light around the bulb.
But yeah it's a dished scrog to utilize the bulb the best once the screen is filled.
SpliffAndMyLady
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Thanks Doob and Match! Yeah I was planning on 3x3, what kind of fans should I be running? I read in Doob's post about it but it didn't go into much detail..and those inline fans are pretty expensive. I was wondering if their was a cheaper alternative? Appreciate it!
Matchbox
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I run a 230m3 an hour Ruck Inline Fan and it keeps temps at 20*C, I wouldn't cheap out on ventilation, fans and lights are what you splash out on, everything else you can do budget if you need toThanks Doob and Match! Yeah I was planning on 3x3, what kind of fans should I be running? I read in Doob's post about it but it didn't go into much detail..and those inline fans are pretty expensive. I was wondering if their was a cheaper alternative? Appreciate it!
Doobieus
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Yeah those scrogs with partial vert to them are really cool/awesome looking when in full bloom. Kinda looks like a Canna hammock you just wish you could lie in lol.
Well I'd say so, finally filling in I see?
No problem, you want to find your dimensions first, what W x H x L you're working with. After you figure that out, you will want to calculate CFM (Cubic foot per minute). Once you have the CFM's for your grow area finding a fan will be much easier, as most are labeled with the CFM exchange rates. Fans are expensive, HTG supply has some decent prices though. Like Match said lights and ventilation will be the most expensive. Also some of the most important, a heat stressed plant will not produce/perform as well as it should. You get burn, stunted growth and just a lot of problems you don't want when you're trying to learn. It costs but the investment pays off greatly.Thanks Doob and Match! Yeah I was planning on 3x3, what kind of fans should I be running? I read in Doob's post about it but it didn't go into much detail..and those inline fans are pretty expensive. I was wondering if their was a cheaper alternative? Appreciate it!
Keep us updated.
Doobieus
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You're damned right about that Gaz lol.
AR-15, MK5, MAC-10, paprika, love that episode lol.