Iso hash vs. bubble hash

[tibberous]

Any preference?

Seems like iso would give a purer product, but it comes out as a tar, unlike bubble hash that seems more fibrous.

Would it be possible to take dried leaf, make iso hash from it, then take some more leaf and grind it together with the iso hash? I'm talking brittle, crumble-to-pieces leave - so you just end up with hash and plant matter together.

Goal is to make something you could grind together with weed and smoke in a joint, without really knowing it is hash.

My buddy is worried he can't sell hash real easy, especially shitty-looking iso hash. If he can somehow mix hash + good bud + leaf + commercial into pre-rolled joints, then he won't have to worry about it. Think of it as the weed version of SPAM. It isn't bud, it's "processed marijuana product"

Big thing is coming up with the right formula / ratio / process - something that adds weight and burns good and still gets you really high and preferably doesn't taste like shit.

Thoughts?

 

[slk]

ISO means what?

 

[silusbotwin]

ISO means what?

Hes referring to hash made out of 99% isopropyl alcohol as opposed to hash made with water and bubble bags.

 

[Beazy88]

Hes referring to hash made out of 99% isopropyl alcohol as opposed to hash made with water and bubble bags.

Yeah I am pretty sure thats what hes talking about,One of my friends collects all my stems about once a month and he makes a big batch of that shit. I taught him how to do it so in those hard times he could atleast smoke, but I refuse to make it anymore! Shits pretty Nasty.He enjoys it as he dont always have herb. Bud I always got buds in my jar and usually hash or kief of reserve so fuck chemicaly strippin anything im smoking. If you do it right man you can make it come out "alright" what I use to make bubbled pretty nicely then burst into smoke and burned up to pretty much nothing but a little white ash, but it NEVER had the sweet taste of some good bubble or anything even close,always had a ass'y taste IMO and smelled like crap in the air afterwords,Even the goodbatches sucked lmao. If you mix that in with peoples weed man there definitely gonna notice! And they will say it tastes and smells like shit but damn they where stoned.Also odds are its gonna burn like complete shit cause I assume this is your first time doing it? If you have decent product though and actually a little weight I would just make butter with it and smoke out and much down.But if you have never made it before I would suggest starting with a small batch to see what your getting into.And I also know someone who use to mix his with shake and he called it ghetto hash,but man I wouldnt touch a bowl of that! he use to just nead the shake into the rez and work it into a nasty little compound.

 

[Locked Up]

^ dude you either never used good hash making material or you didn't do it right if it tastes like shit. I will agree that it does taste a little bit off but the very first batch i made still had that dank spicy herb taste.

As for the OP's question, I would say bubble hash generally tends to have better smell and flavor but I don't think there's much of a difference if they're both properly made when it comes to potentcy.

 

[[420]Haze]

FUCK BOTH, there both shite compared to Dry Ice Hash, dont waste your effort or time doing it any other way than dry ice.

[video=youtube;1buSgDNfGFQ]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1buSgDNfGFQ[/video]

 

[420forme]

The consistency of dry ice hash sucks. You have to press it. Bubble you don't.

 

[Beazy88]

^ dude you either never used good hash making material or you didn't do it right if it tastes like shit. I will agree that it does taste a little bit off but the very first batch i made still had that dank spicy herb taste.

As for the OP's question, I would say bubble hash generally tends to have better smell and flavor but I don't think there's much of a difference if they're both properly made when it comes to potentcy.

Lol its the alchohal man,shits just flat out nasty I dont give a fuck how good you think your trim is.

 

[cannabineer]

I would not not not use leaf dust to adulterate good extract. Jmo. cn

 

[taekwondoguy]

If you do iso just make sure you don't let it soak too long (more than 5-10 min) or you will start taking out stuff other than cannaboids from the trim like chlorophyll and fuck up the taste. You could also do different "washes" After first 5 min soak and drain take new iso and repeat but wouldn't really bother with spending extra $ on iso unless ur using over QP of trim. If you do it right(should be almost same color as this smiley if you dont let it soak too long) QWISO oil should be just as potent or more than bubble. N fuck mixin it with trim in joints 4 sale bro(shouldn't talk bout sales on here anyway), ur gonna have to add a fuckload of trim to get it to crumble and why do that when you got premo home grown? If you just really wanna put it in joint u can put ur bud in j then put oil on top of bud n roll it up.

 

[Beazy88]

Hell yeah taekwondoguy good write up. Yeah its some strong stuff if you make it I would just drop a nice dab on a bowl and go at it. I use a paper clip to scrape it up with then heat the clip just enough for the hash to melt and roll off of it and let it drop into my bowl. I run the lighter over it and let it bubble a little to settle in then light it a good time and take a fat rip. Its not the worse smoke in the world I wasnt just trying to strait up dog it. But I would take some scissor hash or dry sift over it any day! But yeah please dont mix it and try to sell it, I am trying to save you some trouble and maybe even a ass beating lol.But if you make it toke it up.And if you do sell it,sell it as is. Dont Fake the Funk my friend haha!

 

[Decepticon]

i myself LOVE gumby method

 

[Thedillestpickle]

I agree that you shouldnt try to make any SPAM weed lol

But if you wanted to make it a bit more of a hash consistency instead of a dirty sticky oily substance what you could try doing(and Ive never tried this so I dont know how it would work out.
Take a big bag of fan leaves and use the same method shown in the video above to remove the protective hairs that coat all of the leaves of marijuana, you could even use male plants.
collect a shitload of this Kief lookalike stuff and mix it up with your oil. It wont add anything to the high but it will give you the texture your looking for and wont be waisting material to make it. It likely won't be as nasty as mixing plain old "shake" into the oil.

 

[Thedillestpickle]

Hmmm I might have to try the ISO hash thing someday... 5 years ago I tried to make some but it turned out as the nastiest shit ever... I think I let it soak for a couple days! lol black tar shite
I'll try a 10 minute soak next time around


Also if you were to make bubble hash first you might be able to use the leftover material to do an iso extraction and really get all the goods out of the material. Just do a quick soak like 5-10 minutes as previously mentioned

 

[Beazy88]

Hmmm I might have to try the ISO hash thing someday... 5 years ago I tried to make some but it turned out as the nastiest shit ever... I think I let it soak for a couple days! lol black tar shite
I'll try a 10 minute soak next time around


Ewww No dont soak it that long brother,He ment 10seconds that way you dont start stripping the green matter which makes it nazzzty.10-20sec if you feelin feisty and drain it. What I have wanted to try for a long time is the butane extraction.I know its not much cleaner but I have seen some pretty decent end products from it.And its potent as shit! I bought a set of bubblebags but I havent really used them to much.90% of my trim goes into butter and my wife makes rice krispys and cookies ant shit! awesome treats when your smokin out! And I only keep the close trim from the buds,I THROW away all the shade leafs and even the bigger ones around the buds. I trim the buds first by hand just pulling off any of the small leafs I can from the bud and in it. Then I go in with my scissors and put in work and when I am done I have super well trimmed buds and a niiice pile of some SUPER dank ass trim.And I harvest quite regularly cause I keep a constant rotation of plants in and out so I usually have a big bag of it on tap in the end. I wanna get a sifting box to start breaking up on and lay the buds on and just shake them to get any loose tric's on them off and collected in the bottom. I use my grinder alot and it fills up pretty quick so I bet a whole trey would do me justice. I dont grind the bud up in the grinder though I just use the middle part with the screen as a small trey so that I still catch the crystals. Using the actual grinder is a bit more work then I care for and I just enjoy doing it by scissor or hand. But I love all weed man, I dont discriminate on anything herb related. Unless its pissy mexican weed,In that case go on with that Chit! lol

 

[Thedillestpickle]

Hmmm I might have to try the ISO hash thing someday... 5 years ago I tried to make some but it turned out as the nastiest shit ever... I think I let it soak for a couple days! lol black tar shite
I'll try a 10 minute soak next time around


Ewww No dont soak it that long brother,He ment 10seconds that way you dont start stripping the green matter which makes it nazzzty.10-20sec if you feelin feisty and drain it. What I have wanted to try for a long time is the butane extraction.I know its not much cleaner but I have seen some pretty decent end products from it.And its potent as shit! I bought a set of bubblebags but I havent really used them to much.90% of my trim goes into butter and my wife makes rice krispys and cookies ant shit! awesome treats when your smokin out! And I only keep the close trim from the buds,I THROW away all the shade leafs and even the bigger ones around the buds. I trim the buds first by hand just pulling off any of the small leafs I can from the bud and in it. Then I go in with my scissors and put in work and when I am done I have super well trimmed buds and a niiice pile of some SUPER dank ass trim.And I harvest quite regularly cause I keep a constant rotation of plants in and out so I usually have a big bag of it on tap in the end. I wanna get a sifting box to start breaking up on and lay the buds on and just shake them to get any loose tric's on them off and collected in the bottom. I use my grinder alot and it fills up pretty quick so I bet a whole trey would do me justice. I dont grind the bud up in the grinder though I just use the middle part with the screen as a small trey so that I still catch the crystals. Using the actual grinder is a bit more work then I care for and I just enjoy doing it by scissor or hand. But I love all weed man, I dont discriminate on anything herb related. Unless its pissy mexican weed,In that case go on with that Chit! lol

10-20 seconds! are you serious? I guess that would be some high quality Iso if you did that... I wouldnt have thought it was long enough though

Yea I didn't know what I was doing at the time.... Had an ounce of fan leaves and soaked it for 2 days, let it all dry out... it was nasty lol

What about doing dry ice Kief first and then doing an Iso extraction to the remaining material? would that be worthwhile?

 

[Beazy88]

lmao yeah sittign that long you stripped out alot of the stuff your trying to avoid lol.Your goal is to mainly just strip off the outside layer of dankness while avoiding getting any of the "green" from inside the plant.Now if your making tincture its good to let it sit for a long time,I made it with Swedka Vodka once and it wasnt to bad,Im not a vodka person but that is what works best.the higher the proof the stronger the strip and overall buzz.But I took a few shots of it just cause I could But I went to walmart and bought some spray bottle and I just feeled them up with the tincture and sprayed it over and under my tonger 6-7 times,but I would go at it some nights.I did 40 sprays within a few minutes one night just bored gettin stoned lol.I guess drinking it would been easyer.But if you spray it under and over your tongue it soaks into the big main vain under your tongue so it works faster. But yup 10-20seconds with iso does te job,I never weighed my product before I made it but i usually ended up with roughly .8-1g of some good strong hash.just wasnt the most tastey.I used multiple diferent materials to see the diferances but overall nothin really ever changed.All my leaf trim is pretty damn good in quality and I could tell a diff in when I made it with just the stems and I only did that once but overall everything was pretty much about the same quality wise.I made some with just pure tahoe og trim once and I could taste the chemy lemony undertone but the overall taste was and always is ass lol. Yeah making a any type of kief hash and then re using the same material in iso wouldnt be to bad,You would be getting every last drop from your plant lol. I also see people in forums mentioning that they vape there buds and use the left over vape "cash" in iso or the butane and getting some decent results from it.If your trying to get all the smoke you can from it more power to you man! Goodluck on it all, there is a million and 1 directions to go with your trim,just explore them!

 

[Thedillestpickle]

haha iso extraction on vaped buds? ...don't think I'll go that far lol

Thanks for the tips man, I'll try it out.

I'm actually looking into other more advanced extractions such as petroleum ether extraction. But that's a bit involved as you need to build a still to aquire pure petroleum ether. You don't have to worry about any of the green stuff getting into the oil and pet ether will fully volatize at room temperature so what remains is 100% goodness. Should be almost like butane oil, but you could make a much bigger batch using the ether. Just don't use plain namptha gas without distilling first or you'll be smoking heavy petroleum shite

 

[Chem Dawg]

We actually did a side by side smoke off last night.. My Bubble melt vs my cousins pressed hash.. And of course my bubble melt kicked the pressed hash's ass! And this was his own words " Ooh shit ,don't pass that shit over here no more... I think I can feel my brain cells frying.. This shit is boarder line trippy..". Then he went on to say ". This is the highest I've been in a long time". Now if you know my cousin like we do he is a chimney.. We actually call him the 20 Kush smoker because he always has lbs of flavors.. This Kidd is no light weight.. He has surpassed my smoking habits anyway and I burn a quarter a day... No mids, no kind bud, all dank flavors.. But overall my pure afghan bubble melt is bomb! I'd put it against anything!

 

[Locked Up]

Lol its the alchohal man,shits just flat out nasty I dont give a fuck how good you think your trim is.

Again I'm not saying it tastes delicious but it certainly does not taste nasty or alcoholic like you say it does. And I know because I'm smoking it right now.