Perkele's Growing Journal First plant

[mistyriffs]

haha i like how they advertise "grows plants twice as big!" lol twice as big as what? i'll see if i can look up the ratings to this product.

 

[perkele]

According to what I could find, the ingredients are as follows:

Ammonium phosphate
Urea
Potassium chloride
Boric acid
Copper sulfate
Iron EDTA
Magnesium EDTA
Urea phosphate
Zinc sulfate
Sodium molybdate

The percentage breakdown is as follows:
Total Nitrogen: 15%
9.2% urea nitrogen
5.8% ammonium nitrogen

Available phosphate: 30%;
Boron: .02%;
Soluble Potash: 15%;
Copper: .07%;
Iron: .15%;
Manganese: .05%;
Molybdenum: .00005%;
Zinc: .06%.

http://wiki.answers.com/Q/What_are_the_ingredients_of_miracle_grow#ixzz1k7MKIUbH
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[perkele]

haha i like how they advertise "grows plants twice as big!" lol twice as big as what? i'll see if i can look up the ratings to this product.

have you guys seen Idiocracy http://www.imdb.com/title/tt0387808/ the guys in the future were feeding the crops with some mountain dew cause "it's good for the health and contains vitamins" and nothing was growing. It's a must see

 

[mistyriffs]

so you've got a 1-2-1 ratio NPK rating. i use raw ammendments so i haven't done too much research into the liquid ferts but i don't think that's too bad. correct me if i'm wrong lime and matt but i think you're shooting for a 1-2-3 at this point?

 

[perkele]

and I was giving 3 measures(the cork is the measure) every second watering...maybe I gave too much?
Usually at this stage with the plant, how often do you guys water the plant? what's an average? I last watered last Monday and still the soil is...not dry enough to give it again. It's not absorbing(?)

 

[lime73]

According to what I could find, the ingredients are as follows:

Ammonium phosphate
Urea
Potassium chloride
Boric acid
Copper sulfate
Iron EDTA
Magnesium EDTA
Urea phosphate
Zinc sulfate
Sodium molybdate

The percentage breakdown is as follows:
Total Nitrogen: 15%
9.2% urea nitrogen
5.8% ammonium nitrogen

Available phosphate: 30%;
Boron: .02%;
Soluble Potash: 15%;
Copper: .07%;
Iron: .15%;
Manganese: .05%;
Molybdenum: .00005%;
Zinc: .06%.

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see ....just as i thought lacking in minor nutes No Ca ...and too little Mag ( should be 0.15%)for Mj...so you have to add the extra

 

[perkele]

so you've got a 1-2-1 ratio NPK rating. i use raw ammendments so i haven't done too much research into the liquid ferts but i don't think that's too bad. correct me if i'm wrong lime and matt but i think you're shooting for a 1-2-3 at this point?

so you think it's a K deficit ?

 

[perkele]

see ....just as i thought lacking in minor nutes No Ca ...and too little Mag ( should be 0.15%)for Mj...so you have to add the extra

just gave it Monday (the epsom salts) and still no sign of any improvement, contrary, it's getting worst...

 

[mistyriffs]

not positive on this one. i don't want to give you false advise but it's worth looking into. but i also think lime is right that the Ca and Mag are a much more prominent deficiency in your feed.

 

[perkele]

the spots live are looking like someone sprayed acid on the leaves. they are not holes from a side to the other and not on the veins, on the leaves...(just wanted to add this)

 

[lime73]

so you've got a 1-2-1 ratio NPK rating. i use raw ammendments so i haven't done too much research into the liquid ferts but i don't think that's too bad. correct me if i'm wrong lime and matt but i think you're shooting for a 1-2-3 at this point?

its not too bad 1-2-1 ( 15-30-15)...will work, just lacking in minor nutrients...yes there are better formulas for flowering ....but that one will work...if adding cal/mag

 

[mistyriffs]

just gave it Monday (the epsom salts) and still no sign of any improvement, contrary, it's getting worst...

if the source of the problem is a lockout due to abundance then adding more salts is not going to help. I agree that a flush with a solid feed of cal/mag is a great option right now.

 

[perkele]

its not too bad 1-2-1 ( 15-30-15)...will work, just lacking in minor nutrients...yes there are better formulas for flowering ....but that one will work...if adding cal/mag

Lime, every time I had a problem you and mysfits and matt helped me so I will trust you guys and do what you are telling me. Monday (and I really hope she will not get to bad till then) I will flush it with 10-12 liters of water and after I will give her Mg, Ca and the Miracle grow. (how much should I give after a flush? as usual?)

 

[lime73]

not positive on this one. i don't want to give you false advise but it's worth looking into. but i also think lime is right that the Ca and Mag are a much more prominent deficiency in your feed.

which he will add to feed on monday

 

[perkele]

if the source of the problem is a lockout due to abundance then adding more salts is not going to help. I agree that a flush with a solid feed of cal/mag is a great option right now.

what do you mean by solid? how much? Mg - 1 spoon per gallon of water, Ca - from what I recall they are saying it's 10 or 15%, I have to see some instruction when it will come. And Miracle grow? same? 3 cups/corks ?

 

[lime73]

Lime, every time I had a problem you and mysfits and matt helped me so I will trust you guys and do what you are telling me. Monday (and I really hope she will not get to bad till then) I will flush it with 10-12 liters of water and after I will give her Mg, Ca and the Miracle grow. (how much should I give after a flush? as usual?)

And Miracle grow? same? 3 cups/corks ?

yup ...cuz once you flush soil, will be clear,fresh, no nutrients there.... so you can add nutes as usual after flush even a tad less will be ok...so 2.5 caps...lol

 

[mistyriffs]

what do you mean by solid? how much? Mg - 1 spoon per gallon of water, Ca - from what I recall they are saying it's 10 or 15%, I have to see some instruction when it will come. And Miracle grow? same? 3 cups/corks ?

yeah, i would have to look at the Ca product to get a better idea. it seems like your MG feed might be a little hot especially if you're going to add the Ca product with the feed. best thing you can do is mix all the fertilizers together in water and test the EC.

 

[lime73]

other thread is confusing hey? lol

 

[perkele]

other thread is confusing hey? lol

indeed it is

 

[lime73]

that's how they will go sometimes...just arguing about who is right/wrong becomes almost like a battle between growers ....instead of trying to help you figure out your problem.

i didn't post there...don't need to since i already talk to you here...lol