Notorious BIG > Everyone Else.

InCognition

Active Member
You really have to just laugh at the people who try to force their opinion on others, that "rap is not music"... it's comparable to that of an extremely religious person pushing their beliefs on an atheist. Music comes in all shapes and forms. You don't have to play an instrument AND use your voice to make music. In fact you don't need to do either. All you need is a computer and you can still create amazing music.

Those who TELL others rap is not music, is just another way of saying "hey I'm ignorant".

I think this post might start a war with the self-righteous, "rap-is-not-music" folks... it's alright though because they will just further display their self-righteous ignorance.
 

skunkd0c

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im with the op , biggy ftw :)

[video=youtube;6df0rha_Opw]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6df0rha_Opw[/video]
 

0calli

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cyphers speak there own truth !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

one of the best cyphers ive heard

[video=youtube;ac_YVQfWg_U]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ac_YVQfWg_U[/video]

[video=youtube;khGn8EdDgyI]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=khGn8EdDgyI[/video]

[video=youtube;fhx3yzmFnzk]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fhx3yzmFnzk&feature=related[/video]

[video=youtube;aX4S4doHDXs]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=aX4S4doHDXs&feature=related[/video]

[video=youtube;OEvfto7_pMg]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=OEvfto7_pMg[/video]
 

mak

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B.I.G does have some good songs,classics but still only a few.

i grew up listening to Pac and still play him.
still no one good enough to be compared.nuff said.

no need for a debate and 10 posts of paragraphs.

shout out to Tech N9ne to Cheah!
i listen to a lot of Tech N9ne,i dont place him in the same category as 2pac's music.

he has his own flow/style.even compared to other fast rappers.
Strange Music!!!
 

skunkd0c

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never understood the tpac thing .. not really being into rap in a big way myself so please do not be offended by my limited knowledge here
where as biggy has the flow that even someone like myself can hear how good he was (not a rap fan)
tpac just shouts, to me he is no better than ja rule he kinda looks like that fag too with that nappie on his head .. why does he shout so much ??

[video=youtube;QWfbGGZE07M]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=QWfbGGZE07M[/video]


[video=youtube;N-XegbM0HuQ]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=N-XegbM0HuQ[/video]


[video=youtube;CikybHxxOB0]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=CikybHxxOB0[/video]


[video=youtube;eC-i7XeXqg0]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=eC-i7XeXqg0[/video]


[video=youtube;E3kyQcR8AbM]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=E3kyQcR8AbM[/video]
 

0calli

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Tu pac spoke the truth about life as it was before then and now ................yes biggie was lyrical but pac was an epic poet
never understood the tpac thing .. Not really being into rap in a big way myself so please do not be offended by my limited knowledge here
where as biggy has the flow that even someone like myself can hear how good he was (not a rap fan)
tpac just shouts, to me he is no better than ja rule he kinda looks like that fag too with that nappie on his head .. Why does he shout so much ??

[video=youtube;qwfbggze07m]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qwfbggze07m[/video]


[video=youtube;n-xegbm0huq]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=n-xegbm0huq[/video]


[video=youtube;cikybhxxob0]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=cikybhxxob0[/video]


[video=youtube;ec-i7xexqg0]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ec-i7xexqg0[/video]


[video=youtube;e3kyqcr8abm]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=e3kyqcr8abm[/video]
 

skunkd0c

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i have to say m8, im sure you are right and tpac means alot to many many people
but not being from that life and those times myself i would not understand it, and i am not meant to its not aimed at me
so i see it or hear it in simple terms, all ghetto politics aside lol

biggy just sounds good, i dont care about the message behind it

peace :)
 

0calli

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yes bigge is lyrical artisr no doubt hands down but there are many diffrent forms and styles of rap like battle rappers...eminem........lyrical rappers..........biggie , nas...........harmony rappers bone thugs etc etc
i have to say m8, im sure you are right and tpac means alot to many many people
but not being from that life and those times myself i would not understand it, and i am not meant to its not aimed at me
so i see it or hear it in simple terms, all ghetto politics aside lol

biggy just sounds good, i dont care about the message behind it

peace :)
 

mak

Active Member
theres no shouting here brah,thats eminem LMAO!

DEAR MAMA!

[video=youtube;Mb1ZvUDvLDY]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Mb1ZvUDvLDY&ob=av2e[/video]

[video=youtube;HfXwmDGJAB8]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=HfXwmDGJAB8&feature=related[/video]
 

mak

Active Member
Also shout out to Shyne Poe even though hes on some other shit right now since he got out of his years long sentence..fuck P-diddy seriously...

also ja rule tries to be like 2pac lmao
 

0calli

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puff bitch lol hahahaha always polluting his artist videos and calling groups the band when they cant even play a guitar lol
 

Logges

Active Member
Thats a pretty bold statement I know but up to this point I wouldn't feel good putting anyone above him. Im sure ill catch crap for saying that but its so true and no one could possibly put a song/video/clip up to make me change my mind.

Dude only dropped 2 albums and has more talent than anyone. yes anyone. 2pac (yes i said it)...lil wayne (hahaha easily) or any other mickey mouse "pay me my millions but i dont talk about shit" ass rapper out there.

Its official






EDIT: before anyone accuses me from being from brooklyn or NY or even the east coast you should know im west coast born and raised.

absolutely true. he had real talent.
 

ThatGuy113

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puff bitch lol hahahaha always polluting his artist videos and calling groups the band when they cant even play a guitar lol
I was going to say he thinks Tupac yells a lot? what about puffy jumping all around in the video and on the album screaming yeah! and uh! and bad boy for life etc... lol
 

BA142

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nah dude Canibus from 96-2003 was the most lyrically ill MC to ever grace this earth. He fell off hard after 03 and because he picks the shittiest beats to ever exist to rap over but....lyrically nobody can fuck with him in his prime

[video=youtube;kylhotL25qg]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=kylhotL25qg[/video]
 

ThatGuy113

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Gotta say LL cool J as weak as you may think he sounds his diss against Canibus was the best hes ever done.
[video=youtube;cBYJ0QhIPEw]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=cBYJ0QhIPEw[/video]
 

themanwiththeplan

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canibus was lyrical as sh*t. i just couldn't stand his tracks though cuz of his choice of music. (ie beats).

Dont get me wrong guys...im not sayin biggie is the be all/end all of rap i just think for what he did in the short amount of time he had on this earth it was pretty spectacular. i cant think of another artist who had that short of a career that produced at such a level. especially with albums that you can pretty much listen to all the way through. imo the biggest difference between a "good" rapper and a "great" one is that "good" ones have SOME good tracks on their album and great ones you can put it in...press play and not touch anything till its over. thats rare these days for sure. i cant name many artists or albums i can play all the way through that have been released in the last 10 years or so.

now its the era of the singles unfortunately.

im still waiting on the next great one that can freestyle and rap strictly for the art of it AND make good songs/records. these days its strictly one way or the other and its sad.

Dont get me wrong though...i love and listen to other rappers of the same era (PAC, big l, etc). these days all my fav rappers are local or underground.
 

mccumcumber

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I think hip hop also has a lot to do with where you're from. It's people speaking about the situation going on around them, and if it doesn't apply to you... then you probably won't like the music. I personally cannot listen to a whole BIG album all the way through, but if you throw on an album by DEL or PUTS then I'll probably listen to that album in its entirety.
 

VER D

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bigge smalls = everyone who started rapping after he dropped ready to die ill give you that
 

themanwiththeplan

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bigge smalls = everyone who started rapping after he dropped ready to die ill give you that
this is probably more accurate than my original statement to be honest. soon as his era died (90s rap) it all went to hell fast. to me mainstream rap is the WORST these days. I remember a time when i liked most of the rap that was mainstream. now i seem to only listen to underground stuff (for the most part). I cant get into guys like 50 cent, lil wayne, gucci, waka, etc. this current style seems watered down and i swear lil wayne is to rap what half of the 90s teen "pop stars" were...someone who the labels marketed as an "image" or "brand" rather than a good music recording artist/songwriter.

I guarantee you there are mainstream rappers TODAY who don't write their own lines/songs. its a fact and with some genres i can see that happening (ie. teen pop stars etc) but i can't accept that when its rap which is supposed to come from you. thats what makes rap so amazing to me...is that someone can spit out the facts of life of the top of their head while simultaneously thinking of the next line AND making it all fit together in a way that pleases your ears. If you're using other ppl's ideas then what are you?

Idk excuse my rant but i could knock current mainstream rap forever. People often are amazed that i can't name even one single song by some of today's biggest rappers but its because i could listen to the samples of their albums on amazon.com or whatever and by the time ive heard 30secs of each song i can already dismiss them as being good.

when it comes to rap it doesn't take more than a few bars to know if you're feeling it at all.

my other beef is that today's mainstream rappers do WAYYY too many features to the point that sometimes they seem like a guest artist on their own record/mixtape. dont get me wrong some of my fav songs ever were features but now its ridiculous. in the past they still did collabs but you know who's album u were buying. now you listen to 15 tracks from one artist but they only spit 1 verse on each track!

idk if today's rappers are just lazy or seriously have no talent but it needs to change. of course i think ive been spoiled by greatness of the past and underground and now nothing can come close to comparing. hopefully in the next few years im thinking a new group of mainstream artists is better than this current group. if whats next to come is worse then im just gonna either get stuck in the past era or find another genre of music to listen to. lol
 
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